Who set the curriculum though!? The establishment, that’s who – makes yer think!
Properly laughed at that
Oh my. I saw the contrails hooey and was tempted to post a pic from the skies over Kent in August 1940, where pilots on both sides found time to deploy whatever chems they were supposed to carry whilst shooting the bejeesus out of one another.
However, the photos do look a bloody mess in the sky. I have noticed that same grid pattern and they spread out and turn what was a sunny day in to a hazy day. Whether it’s anything other than water vapour / fumes / pollution i don’t know, but it does look awful.
Of course you do, commercial aircraft have to follow specific routes when flying to international destinations, some are east/west and west/east, others north/south and south/north - common sense aught to tell you that, along with taking some time to look at a flight radar app like ADS-B.
Also, because of the way that contrails form, if the air temperature and humidity at the altitude the planes are flying at, roughly 35,000 feet, the trails are basically a form of Cirrus, and cirrus clouds are a precursor for stratus formation and ultimately rain. Try studying some meteorology. The quote below puts it nicely.
From the book “Flight To Arras” by Antoine de Saint Exupery, written in 1942 about a military mission in 1940:
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“Are the anti-aircraft firing, Dutertre?”
“I believe they are firing, Captain.”
Dutertre cannot tell. The bursts are too distant and the smoke is blended in with the ground. They cannot hope to bring us down by such vague firing. At thirty three thousand feet we are virtually invulnerable. They are firing in order to gauge our position, and probably also to guide the fighter groups towards us. A fighter group diluted in the sky like invisible dust.
The German on the ground knows us by the pearly white scarf which every plane flying at high altitude trails behind like a bridal veil. The disturbance created by our meteoric flight crystallizes the watery vapor in the atmosphere. We unwind behind us a cirrus of icicles. If the atmospheric conditions are favorable to the formation of clouds, our wake will thicken bit by bit and become an evening cloud over the countryside.
The fighters are guided towards us by their radio, by the bursts on the ground, and by the ostentatious luxury of our white scarf. Nevertheless we swim in an emptiness almost interplanetary. Everything around us and within us is total immobility.”
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edit/ please, for the love of God, can somebody sort out the crappy formatting issue when copying text from another source!
This is worth a read, it’s a proper scientific analysis of the components of a vapour trail.
https://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails/
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Oh my. I saw the contrails hooey and was tempted to post a pic from the skies over Kent in August 1940, where pilots on both sides found time to deploy whatever chems they were supposed to carry whilst shooting the bejeesus out of one another.
Yep but the Luftwaffe were spraying out Fasc spray, whilst the RAF were spraying out Anti Fasc spray.
We thought we'd had done a great job as we won the war ultimately.
However, we now know that the Fasc spray as used by the Luftwaffe was a time delayed agent. Hence we now have the Tories.
Those cunning Germans got us in the end.
Here's Suella's nan snorting in Fasc spray, circa '41.
I once met a
Scientist who worked for Environmental Health England . He said
we've had for years the scientific ability to actually make it
'rain' by dispersing H2O pellets in the air.
Don't know whether this is true…but it has rained a lot
recently 🤔 (Why not use in Africa)
Yes ... and then he went and told all of his friends that he met a dimwit that believed him!
Keeping anything a secret is practically impossible, let alone something like spraying the country with something! The sheer number of people ‘in’ on it would be astronomical and would bound to be leaked, plus those doing the spraying would also be living with family in the same areas they’ve sprayed, so that doesn’t make sense.
See also every anti-nuclear idiot*. If it was that dangerous do you think we'd be stupid enough to live next to them?
*the two terms are not mutually exclusive
They* aren't 'spraying us' with anything, you monumental wellington boot. Those are 'vapour trails' -
We need more of these types of insult 😂
Chemtrails are real, and the perpetrators are hiding in plain sight. You can follow their work on FB
Dimmer Skies are Safer Skies!
Managed to score a copy! Well chuffed 😃 There was a “cashless society” protest at a busy roundabout & they were handing out the papers to drivers.
I passed the nutter camp outside Downing Street yesterday.
Shame, I remember when it was about worthy causes rather than junk science, conspiracy nonsense and ULEZ protests.
Managed to score a copy!
You do know all editions are on their website? https://thelightpaper.co.uk/
Some of the adverts are like something out of Viz.
yeah, this kind of thing really benefits from having a nice relaxing read on the crapper with a proper paper though 😃 plus comes in handy if you run out of bog roll 😂You do know all editions are on their website?
plus comes in handy if you run out of bog roll
Yes a PDF is fine but these eReaders aren’t nearly as ‘paper like’ as the hype would suggest when it’s time to get down to business
Saw a copy pinned to a fence this weekend! 🙂
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See issue 31 for recent interview with late 90s Superstar DJ Danny Rampling.
I quite liked his mix CDs back in the day.
When you pretend to understand how the earth works but you really don’t….what an absolute 🤡😭🤣🤣
Tbf to her, if she carries on with her stream of consciousness for long enough, she'll get to the same understanding as the rest of us - gravity is there but nobody can really explain how it works other than mass/spacetime - and then Brian Cox will step in and give an explanation that sounds utterly plausible but completely impossible to recall in the pub after 2 pints.
Although, her starting point is that Australians are walking around upside down, so it may take longer than usual to get to the normal level of understanding.
😀
anything specific caught your eye or just general lunacy? 😂
Blimey, that BBC article is quite scary.
Shows them up as dyed in the wool facists, we should not be writing them off as a bunch of loonies.
A properly dangerous bunch liked to some very extreme groups and happy to promote violence against those they disagree with.
we should not be writing them off as a bunch of loonies.
You'd have thought we'd have learned by now, as that's exactly what people did with UKIP, The Tea Party in the States, Donald Trump, etc etc, and looked what happened in all those examples
I encountered a brilliant conspiracy theory that I'd never heard of before and I don't think is widely known about.
There's a war being fought underground.
Yep, that's right, using tunnels, mines, sewers and so on. It's why there are earthquakes, fires underground, unexplained loud rumbles* and so on.
* no of course it's not thunder, what are you thinking?
Enjoy
https://twitter.com/d_feldman/status/1667640020629323776
There’s a war being fought underground.
I saw similar during lockdown, except there are huge secret bases underground where the children are kept, before the cabal murders them and drinks/injects their blood.
There are also "super soldiers" that are sent to fight aliens on Saturn.
All of that was on youtube, not one of the really mental tube sites.
Who is it protecting, the cat or the owner?
I was at a pub in Bishop's Castle at the weekend and noticed a copy behind the bar.
The only thing that limits far-right conspiracy theories is the conspiracy theorist's imagination.
That's the great attraction with conspiracy theories, it opens up a whole new world which unhampered by a lack of evidence.
where the children are kept, before the cabal murders them and drinks/injects their blood.
I have heard that one too.
where the children are kept, before the cabal murders them and drinks/injects their blood.
Yeah this is the centre of the Q-Anon conspiracy. It's just the blood libel updated for a new audience. The weird thing is how mainstream it's becoming, the new Tucker Carlson Twitter programme talked about Zelensky (Jewish) as "rat-like" and "persecuting Christians" they're mostly not even bothering to hide it now.
Downloaded out of curiosity. Tbh I probably would have lapped it up 25 years ago 😄
Couldn't be bothered to read most of it but the cancer piece "cancer it's not what we're told" seemed quite approachable.
I like how they used deduction fed on conflicting statements to say what cancer is, rather than say, actual in depth knowledge expertise and science.
Are the authors 14?
Saw the BBC article on TV news yesterday - scary and intriguing all at once.
I think I'd quite like to read a copy to see how ****ed up it is, but i don't want them being able to track me through the GPS enabled newsprint
£8.01 ??? That's insane!
When COVID was really kicking off I tackled the nutter handing it out by pointing out that the pandemic wasn't killing lizards. Therefore she was a shape shifting lizard trying to kill humans with her anti vaccine propaganda.
I told her that David icke had shown me the facts and for her to **** off as I was pro human.
She then said that I was a lizard and she was a human.
Oh I am so going to use that ^^ diagram!
Except some are true... either in whole** or mostly in part.
It's the bits that are true that make them convincing and the negative use and accusation of "you're a conspiracy theorist" pushed echo chambers.
**CED def of conspiracy
the activity of secretly planning with other people to do something bad or illegal
Colins
Conspiracy is the secret planning by a group of people to do something illegal.
A conspiracy is an agreement between a group of people which other people think is wrong or is likely to be harmful.
OED
a. The action of conspiring; combination of persons for an evil or unlawful purpose.
b ) (law )The crime of conspiracy consists in the agreement of two or more persons to do an illegal act, or to do a lawful act by unlawful means.2.
a. (with a and plural) A combination of persons for an evil or unlawful purpose; an agreement between two or more persons to do something criminal, illegal, or reprehensible (especially in relation to treason, sedition, or murder); a plot.4. Compounds.
conspiracy theory n. the theory that an event or phenomenon occurs as a result of a conspiracy between interested parties; spec. a belief that some covert but influential agency (typically political in motivation and oppressive in intent) is responsible for an unexplained event.
If you use the wider "which other people think is wrong or is likely to be harmful" or "or reprehensible" then that's most politics or media.
I'm sure (NOT LOOKED) whatever is on the front page of today's DM meets that wider criteria. The headline is probably completely false but will contain some truths people can relate to.
I saw similar during lockdown, except there are huge secret bases underground where the children are kept, before the cabal murders them and drinks/injects their blood.
Think thats the adrenochrome conspiracy.
Started in Hunter. S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas claiming a)it could only be taken from humans and b)it had various psychedelic and possible life extending properties.
Somehow reemerged a couple of years back as a full blown conspiracy where the childrens blood is used as a source for it.
It's not remotely on the same level as that conspiracy stuff up there ^^ but I returned home the other day to find a neatly handwritten envelope on the doormat. Inside was a full page of handwritten A4 detailing the way that the world was a product of intelligent design and used examples of tiny spiders and geckos clinging to walls by molecular forces to demonstrate that only God could create such wonders.
It then offered me a free one-to-one Bible study course.
Bloody good job the Jehovahs hadn't caught me at home with that, I might have used some of the quotes from Paul:
(How to speak to conspiracy theorists)
Worth watching if only for you're partners relationship with her sister.
Cheers, I'll have a look later.
I was at a pub in Bishop’s Castle at the weekend
Oh, which one? I used to visit BC for the beer festival (is that still going?).
returned home the other day to find a neatly handwritten envelope on the doormat.
...
Bloody good job the Jehovahs hadn’t caught me at home with that,
This seems to be a thing with the JWs. I had one once (I have a scan of it somewhere). I'm assuming there's some sort of "reward is proportional to effort" affair going on, but it seems remarkably inefficient in the 21st Century if their mission is to spread the word. I know they have some... less than mainstream ideas, but I don't recall ever seeing any holy texts that read "though shalt not subscribe to HP Instant Ink."
Found it.
Except some are true… either in whole** or mostly in part.
which bit of Flat Earth, Moon landings, Aliens at Area 51, Underground War, Q-Anon (democrats eating babies) Lizard people, 9/11 inside job, chemtrails are true or partly true in your estimation then?
I’m assuming there’s some sort of “reward is proportional to effort” affair going on, but it seems remarkably inefficient in the 21st Century if their mission is to spread the word. I know they have some… less than mainstream ideas, but I don’t recall ever seeing any holy texts that read “though shalt not subscribe to HP Instant Ink.”
Clearly the Lord wasn't involved in the intelligent design behind Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.
I’m assuming there’s some sort of “reward is proportional to effort” affair going on
I'd assume they're human, and they've been told they have to spend so many hours a week on missionary work.
Do you:
A) Walk up and downs streets in the winter rain getting rejected in person.
B) Sit indoors, nice and warm practicing your handwriting, then do a quick letterdrop.
nickc
which bit of Flat Earth, Moon landings, Aliens at Area 51, Underground War, Q-Anon (democrats eating babies) Lizard people, 9/11 inside job, chemtrails are true or partly true in your estimation then?
It's not "in my estimation" it's fact / scientific theory or cover-ups, basically the discrepancy between what you were told and what can be established as untrue easily. The "headline" (flat earth/Moon landings etc) is initially irrelevant if you can start to prove barely relevant or even totally irrelevant lies that can be linked. Area 51 is a good example as it's provided cover for top secret projects for decades but it's also an example of "they are lying so it must be aliens".
This is how they reel in the unwary, lonely or insecure.
Here's a Sci Am thing for Flat Earth
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/flat-earthers-what-they-believe-and-why/
That the people who believe the world was round having these arguments didn't have cause they'd never scrutinized the idea. They rejecting it. And so what was happening was I think to a degree, the part of the schism that were just having fun and knew very well the world wasn't flat, but just enjoyed the pursuit of doing that.
They were winning those arguments with people who were coming in and arrogantly assuming that they could answer everything. And in winning those arguments, they were really converting even more people who really believed it.
So it's very difficult to explain gravity in either one of those models. But these people who were doing kind of esoteric arguments were saying, well, what is gravity? Gravity is an accelerant, falls towards the ground, I think 9.8 meters per second squared, accelerates downwards. They said that is identical to a world in which the ground accelerates upwards to meet you. And so when you let go of something, it isn't that it's accelerating downwards, it's a, the ground's actually accelerating up to meet it.
If you keep reading then
Totally. And what surprised me was I was shocked to hear this hugely influential antisemitic hoax document. Uh, the protocols, elders designer, a fake that was created to stir antisemitism. I was shocked to hear that brought up on stage at this convention where I was expecting to hear about the flat earth, but I think I was the only one who was shocked. No one else seemed to bat an eyelid. And so we do see these different conspiracy theories clustering together. And uh, I spoke to a journalist actually at the, at the convention that weekend and they were having a lovely old time interviewing people saying, Oh, isn't this fun? Isn't it silly? Said, well, it is fun, but if you really want to know what's going on, just see that couple over there with the baby. Ask them if the baby's vaccinated, ask them in that baby was ill tomorrow.
Would they go and see a doctor or would they believe that big pharma is a tool of oppression and evil and moneymaking, all this kind of stuff. You know, one of the speakers at the convention, as well as being a flat earther and as well as being a nine 11 truther also believes that you can cure all manner of diseases, including HIV and AIDS by drinking or injecting your own urine. And this is, these are ideas, these are the ideas that are sort of bedfellows. And so I think a flat earth is in some ways, it's just the most visible of a, an ecosystem of conspiracy theory. Uh, and I think if you really want to try and, uh, help people challenge their own beliefs in the flat earth, you have to see it as such. You can't see it in isolation. You have to try and look at the, the wider pattern that it fits within.
The Guardian did a good editorial about this on "lizard people" or more accurately it started with David Icke in Canada and ends up when he's been invited to 3 radio talk shows (one BBC) and then gets told they don't want him and he makes the editor uncomfortable (read the article).
To me and you (I assume) it's because he has a nuts lizard people thing... what he say's though is "it's because I'm exposing the truth" .. guess which one his fans believe. Is it TRUE he was told they don't want him? See that bit is true...
As noted in that Sci Am interview it's the mix of proving something was not true (gravity not quite working like Newton said) and then proving other claims to be true (usually in special circumstances) and when it comes down to it are aliens or lizard people actually more nutty than sky fairies and virgin births?
Clearly the Lord wasn’t involved in the intelligent design behind Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.
Changed my life when someone first showed me the magic incantation that is Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.
