It would have been a lot easier if the arguers had agreed in the first place.
It would have been a lot easier if you realised that your opinion is just that.
And easier still if I'd given you a couple of days off for trolling and being generally disruptive four pages ago. (-:
It would have been a lot easier if you realised that your opinion is just that.
Now now, You agree too that those who called it Indian Head Wobble were probably ignorant.
I simply referred to the gesture by it's accepted name.
Just because that is it's 'accepted name' doesn't mean that it is not a stereotype.
I don't think you invented the name, I'm surprised it came out that way. I merely said that the characterisation of a group by ascribing an action to them is stereotyping.I didn't think 'ah, that head wobble thing is peculiar to Indians, I will call it the Indian Head Wobble', as you seem to repeatedly and mistakenly insist.
So what if calling it "Indian Head wobble" is stereotyping?
See! ned agrees with me.
As to what is wrong with it? well, that is a separate issue, but I don't like it.
And easier still if I'd given you a couple of days off for trolling and being generally disruptive four pages ago. (-:
How is it disruptive, beyond the early answers along the lines of it means the person is listening to you and others answering the OP, the discussion was the main part of the thread. I was staying on task, not disrupting.
I've just read all this thread and now want to pull the legs off kittens.
FWIW, my dad lived in India for quite a while and used to tell me that it was a southern Indian thing.
He said the British equivalent was nodding your head whilst listening to someone - didn't necessarily signify agreement, but usually just meant 'yep, I'm listening, please carry on'.
Sorry if this post is a bit too sensible.
I can be a bit more controversial if you like, but I'm trying to cut down.
I don't think he was characterising a group by ascribing things to them, he was characterising a thing by talking about the people that you see doing it.
That fact that it's not universally convertible is irrelevant to the question the OP was asking.
How is it disruptive,
It's disruptive because it's dragged the thread off in an entirely different, largely pointless direction.
Thread drift can be a good thing sometimes, but when you've got an irrelevant argument vying for contention with another subject it gets old fast.
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Anyway. I now officially have arseache with the whole thing, so here's what's happened so far and what's going to happen.
CM, you've made your point quite conclusively. Most people disagreed, and both parties have been allowed to state their case. I think everyone's had a fair crack of the whip here, and I don't see as there's anything further to add beyond beating the same drum until everyone dies of tedium.
So, we're going to draw a line under it here and attempt to go back to the original topic, if anyone knows or still cares. I don't want to have to resort to thread closures and bans, but I'm bored shirtless of needless bickering.
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OK.
That two handed jesture that Vale did after his crash yesterday, when the camera went to him in the pits, what does that mean??
soz.
So, we're going to draw a line under it here and attempt to go back to the original topic, if anyone knows or still cares
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_bobble
There's your answer.
Can we get back to the needless bickering now?
Well I'm not reading 4 pages of you stink, no you stink more. So I thought the head wobble was just to say I'm listening to what you are saying and that was all. Came across it a lot in North India when travelling there. By the time I left I was a happy wobbler myself and now feel free to shoot me down in flames.
So north [b]and[/b] south India you say?
Oh I do indeed.
Oh dear! If we accept this anecdote as evidence, then Cougar's name for it would be wrong as well!
STW at its most pointless
pointing is a very german gesture IMHO.
;o)
Just sent the link to an Indian friend of mine and he's shocked & insulted
All these white men arguing wether it's racist or not. He thinks it is and that's all that counts IMO
do i need to report myself then?
It's racist to ask what the distinctive head movement seen in ( various IME) parts of India means? Well, that is a very broad definition of racism IMO?
Is your friend truly representative or are you stereotyping? 😉
All these white men arguing wether it's racist or not
Can you tell them that it is racist to assume we are all white.
No, I think that's stereotyping.
Only with statistics can we decide.
Anyone know the global proportion of white racists to non-white racists?
Why do black American women move their heads sideways when they're arguing and why don't black American men do it ?
And why can't I do it ?
And why can't I do it ?
Aim for the moon ernie, if you miss, you'll hit the stars.
Oh no, I've incurred the wrath of the stw click by posting my Indian friends opinion.
And why can't I do it ?
Political correctness gone mad and the thought police stops you blacking up and dressing as a woman ....the bastards
Pook - Member
do i need to report myself then?
POSTED 33 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
Arun (my Indian friend) advised me he'll be joining this site tomorrow to report the thread so no need
I vote for Marin, he's a nice bloke 😀
Is that what we are doing?
Already done, pook
I vote for Marin, he's a nice blokeIs that what we are doing?
Marin is winning so far
I'll add the Wikipedia entry is spot on, in Bulgaria a nod means no and a shake means yes, well unless they know they are dealing with a non local so the opposite applies well maybe.
Oh, goodness gracious me...
I was in Bulgaria recently and their head nodding/shaking was totally normal.
Arun (my Indian friend) advised me he'll be joining this site tomorrow to report the thread so no need
Seems a bit extreme when you could simply report it on his behalf if he feels that strongly about it.
Given the amount of confusion on here it might be more productive and educative if he were to come on here and explain his point of view. Inform the debate etc etc.
The last thing this debate needs is more information!
[i]in Bulgaria a nod means no and a shake means yes[/i]
In Bulgaria, or just by Bulgarians while they're only in Bulgaria?*
I'll ask Evgeni, one of my dentists, he's from Bulgaria.
Racist [i]and[/i] stereotyping!!
Ask him if a wink is as good as a no to a blind Bulgarian.
All these white men arguing wether it's racist or not. He thinks it is and that's all that counts IMO
Yeah, bloody "white men" trying to learn about Indian culture, break down barriers and improve multi-cultural understanding. It's sooooo racist.
Far better for us to blunder on in ignorance and just assume anyone making this gesture has some kind of nervous tic.
🙄
Aim for the moon ernie, if you miss, you'll hit the stars.
Does anyone know if you definitely would hit a star eventually if you kept going in a straight line?
Oh and it's not stereotyping. Saying "Indian people head-wobble" would be stereotyping.
Yeah, bloody "white men" trying to learn about Indian culture, break down barriers and improve multi-cultural understanding. It's sooooo racist.Far better for us to blunder on in ignorance and just assume anyone making this gesture has some kind of nervous tic.
WTF a rational post. What's this doing here
Oh and it's not stereotyping. Saying "Indian people head-wobble" would be stereotyping.
and it is a well known fact that only one phrase at a time can be considered to be stereotyping.
Fine, but that's not really a wobble though, is it.
Charliemungus, you are TJ and i claim my £5.
Charliemungus is a Weeble, he wobbles but does not fall down.
and it is a well known fact that only one phrase at a time can be considered to be stereotyping.
That made no sense.


