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So how does one strengthen your hamstrings and glutes then, if not by cycling?

What got me thnking about quads was a picture of Caster Semenya mid-stride, with her trailing leg out behind her way way further than mine goes, but her torso and back straight upwards.

Seems to me like that would be a good way of helping my running and stop the very painful back I get sometimes in the form of severely overused muscles.

SbZ - how do you extend a hip??


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:03 pm
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There were lots of links the last time it came up on here a week or so ago... Search...

Here is another [url= http://www.endyourbackpainnow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/4-essential-strategies-for-the-correction-of-anterior-pelvic-tilt.pdf ]one[/url].


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:05 pm
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SbZ... you don't like stretching, do you? What about Yoga, tis Awesome I tell thee.


 
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Cycling is crap at strengthening hamstrings and glutes, but very good at making them weak in comparison to quads. Only leads to muscle imbalances.

Things like hamstring curls, squats, deadlifts etc are good for regaining that balance.

As for how do you extend your hip - lie on your belly and raise your leg in the air. Your arse muscle should fire just before your hamstrings kick in btw.

TSY - I'll admit that I'm not a fan of stretching. I prefer the reciprocal inhibition method of lengthening muscles. Yoga is about way more than stretching, infact there is very little stretching in yoga.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:10 pm
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Must investigate that later. Can't see how to exercise my hamstrings and glutes without my Quads.

Maybe running would help with that?


 
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I was looking for something that doesn't seem to exist... Does anyone know of an adjustable weight kettlebell? Seems like you could make something like a dumbbell on its side with a handle on top, that you could fit normal plates to...


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:21 pm
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😳 Christ I must be rubbish at it then as it feels a hell of a lot like stretching to me... a hell of a lot of the time!


 
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Cycling is crap at strengthening hamstrings and glutes, but very good at making them weak in comparison to quads.

Aww, you were doing quite well up until that point. The main force in cycling is from hip extension, not knee extension. Try hip extension by contracting your quads.....


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:23 pm
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I'm told the turkish get up is where it's at

Lance uses kettle bells.. must be good

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Posted : 08/03/2011 1:28 pm
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Care explain to me why so many cyclists have weak, tight hamstrings and get a shed load of injuries to those muscles and very strong quads for that matter.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:29 pm
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Core is important.. even for Liam Kileen


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:30 pm
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Aww, you were doing quite well up until that point. The main force in cycling is from hip extension, not knee extension

Not disagreeing, but a question - Why is it then my quads that burn when I am hammering up a hill? Specifically, that bit near the knee on the outside?


 
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Care explain to me why so many cyclists have weak, tight hamstrings and get a shed load of injuries to those muscles and very strong quads for that matter.

Which cyclists? What's your evidence for this?

And are you claiming hip extension isn't the main source of power when cycling?


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:36 pm
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What's your evidence to say that it's not?


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 1:45 pm
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I don't think that's how this thing works, SbZ 🙂


 
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It is impossible to prove anything with 100% certainty, and anyone that claims to do so is deluded, so I am asking iDave to back up his comment with evidence that is all.


 
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SBZ - you want me to back up a counter claim to your claim which you have offered no back up to?

Interesting logic there captain


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 2:06 pm
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I've been doing swings and get-ups for a couple of months, I've noticed a real improvement in functional strength and balance.


 
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IDave - got it in one. Go for it.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 2:08 pm
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That Liam Killeen vid is very good, thanks trickydisco!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 2:18 pm
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OK then

There is no evidence to suggest that cyclists have weak hamstrings and anyone who suggests they do should produce some evidence or STFU

There is also ample evidence that hip extension is a major source of power when cycling and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go back to personal training class. Only they don't teach you that there.

HTH 😀


 
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So you've gone from hip extension being THE MAIN source of power in cycling to it being A MAJOR source - which one is it?


 
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Inspired by the weather I went running. No awesome to be had let alone Awesome. Must try harder!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:01 pm
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Exercise outside today is Awesome!!!

I did the first of the interval sessions you set iDave on the rower, followed by a slow mile jog, 10 mins on the cross trainer and 20 lengths in the pool.

I think the medical term for my current state is ****ed?

Thank god for peanut butter and jam sarnies washed down with milk. 😀


 
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Happy to go with either and both SBZ, which do you think it is?


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:24 pm
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I did the first of the interval sessions you set iDave on the rower,

What intervals you doing? I, after joining the gym beginning of Feb, have started using the rower more and more as quite enjoy it. Currently doing:

500m x5 with 45 second rests. All 500m have to be done under 2mins (fastest interval so far was 1.42) and the resistance is set to 10.

Kills me in a good way.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:26 pm
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Don't tell him TSY....


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:26 pm
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Don't tell him TSY....

I agree. Don't tell me, otherwise Dave will have to invoice me. I will leave it for others to keep him in caviar and Lamborghinis. 8)


 
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Tell him TSY


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:30 pm
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I agree. Do tell me, so I can have Dave invoice me. I want to be able to contribute to his caviar and Lamborghini fund.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:31 pm
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iDave you told me you were going to get yourself breast implants, and the adopt a small African child with the money!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:31 pm
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iDave you told me you were going to get yourself breast implants, and the adopt a small African child with the money!

Who you think he is? Madonna? Well, I guess him and her are the only people I know who serve caviar out of a Lamborghini.

Delicious!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:33 pm
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It's ALDI caviar though. From haddock.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:34 pm
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LOL, as long as you're not wasting it Dave.

Jamie, the plan involves Higher Intensity.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:43 pm
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Jamie, the plan involves Higher Intensity.

So do the rower with another rower strapped to my back. Gotcha!


 
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row backwards with more fasterness


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 3:59 pm
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Whilst High!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 4:01 pm
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Just had a look at myself in the mirror. My shoulders are sagging now, I look really old 🙁

Must get to the climbing wall.


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 4:20 pm
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Climbing wall makes you look young? Well who knew!


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 4:25 pm
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Awesome, I went climbing last night 8)


 
Posted : 08/03/2011 4:28 pm
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Physically, they do help with the physique yes.


 
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What was that SBZ? I can't quite hear you.


 
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Which do I think it is - depends on who is doing the pedalling. Someone who has had their pedalling technique analysed and perfected over a number of years will recruit all of their leg muscles at various points of the rotation. Someone who has weak core, mashes the pedals, and doesnt really care how they are pedalling as long as they are going forwards will be using pretty much all quads with very little in the way of hamstring and glute involvement. It's all to do with the way that muscles are recruited and the range they are working in. But you know this already.


 
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Just did some exercises on the floor at home. Not bad but I am beginning to think I need to go climbing again.


 
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I'm a big fan of yoga - I do the savasana posture for about 8 hours everyday...


 
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