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How do react to tailgating? Ignore, confront when safe to so or throw a bag of nails out the window.
Just had a long drive and have had a couple of instances of tailgating.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:03 am
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Give more space between me and the vehicle in front, then ignore. Leave it very much in the 'their problem' camp


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:05 am
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If there is no traffic in front of me I encourage them to overtake.

If there is traffic in front of me I increase my gap to it so that there is enough braking distance for myself and the car behind.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:06 am
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Never had that issue as I is awesome and always overtaking - tailgating is for dorks


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:07 am
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Let the person overtake where possible, no reason not to.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:08 am
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Slam on and watch the panic in their eyes.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:08 am
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Slow down. They'll overtake eventually. It's their problem.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:09 am
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I just carry on driving as normal, it’s not something I find is an issue.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:10 am
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Give more space between me and the vehicle in front, then ignore. Leave it very much in the ‘their problem’ camp

this - has the virtue of also being what the Highway code tells you to do.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:11 am
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Either; slow down at the first point where it's safe and easy for them to overtake. Or actively get out of their way.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:11 am
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I find in the UK slowing down by say 5-10 mph and slowly accelerating away from stops or out of corners makes the point, once they drop back I'll drive normally again.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:13 am
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Serious answer - you obviously like to drive slower than the average driver

Are you leaving plenty of gap in front of yourself to the next car for them to over take you?

I assume you are not one of these drivers that slows stupidly for bends and then floors it up the next straight? Keep your speed consistently slow to enable people to overtake safely.

I drive at or below 30 in 30's and people bunch up behind me, thats their problem.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:14 am
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Repeatedly brake test them, use "friendly" hand gestures and then accelerate sharply while lobbing a fist full of coins out the window.

Just ignore them, they will soon overtake or back off.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:16 am
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confront when safe to

Do you mean stop and have a row in the middle of the road or?


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:16 am
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It's really odd and definitely a problem up here (Highlands). The crazy thing is it's the worst place to sit if you want to overtake. If I want to overtake in minimum space I drop back 'into the pocket' so Ive go somewhere to accelerate into before crossing the central line when safe at a significantly higher pace than the car I'm trying to overtake. You simply can't do that if tailgating.

I think a lot of tailgaters here at least are just dozy, have little interest in overtaking and just keep going until they get to a slower car with a thumb up their bum.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:17 am
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Serious answer – you obviously like to drive slower than the average driver

There's nothing obvious about that at all.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:19 am
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I drive at or below 30 in 30’s and people bunch up behind me, thats their problem.

Yes and no. The Highway code has quite a bit to say about driving courteously, and "Don't hold people up unnecessarily " is one of them. If you're driving at or below the speed limit, then either don't prevent people from overtaking you, or if there's a queue behind you pull over to let them past.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:19 am
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Are you driving at 69mph in the middle lane of the motorway?


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:21 am
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I'm a nightmare. I'll often slow right down if someone's aggressively tailgating me. Have been know to do it alongside a lorry if on a duel carriageway. Once or twice I've put on my hazards and slowly come to a complete stop.
Sorry, but I hate these idiots in their stupid cars (usually a bmw), so it's my petty way of getting revenge.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:23 am
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Yes and no. The Highway code has quite a bit to say about driving courteously, and “Don’t hold people up unnecessarily ” is one of them. If you’re driving at or below the speed limit, then either don’t prevent people from overtaking you, or if there’s a queue behind you pull over to let them past.

Yes and no 🙂 In the case stated, i.e. a 30 limit, if you're at or below the limit (and I'm assuming you're not doing 10mph), then if people bunch up then tough. It's 30 for a reason.

On roads with higher limits, sure.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:25 am
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And yes, I'm a careful and considerate driver. That's a good thing in my book.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:26 am
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so it’s my petty way of getting revenge.

Why do you care? If some-one tailgates me then they're a bad driver and more likely to have an accident, i want them away from me with as little hassle and fuss to me as i can get. So I'll get out the way of them having thier accident up the road, and as far away from me as possible


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:26 am
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We're not talking about overtaking here. We're talking about cocks driving up your ass to show their displeasure.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:27 am
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It just bothers me that they can get away with it as there's no police presence. So I take matters into my own hands.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:28 am
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If you’re driving at or below the speed limit, then either don’t prevent people from overtaking you, or if there’s a queue behind you pull over to let them past.

I don't agree with that. Yes if you are travelling SIGNIFICANTLY below the speed limit (ie, driving a slow moving vehicle like a tractor) then yes, pull over but if you are driving at or around the speed limit (assuming it may be slightly below depending on circumstances) then there is absolutely no need to pull over to let people pass. Obviously you should never prevent someone from overtaking should they wish to but that is their decision to make.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:29 am
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I ignore it and let them past when safe, but some cars seem to attract it more than others. If I'm driving my old T4 van I rarely get it but when I drive my daughter's little Citroen C1 it happens a lot, this is driving at the speed limit in both vehicles.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:30 am
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 It’s 30 for a reason.

Sure, so be courteous to those around you and drive at 30. Driving less than that to me suggests one of a few things; New driver, someone not paying attention, or someone for whom driving is still an all consuming business and hasn't got the awareness to pay attention to everything that's going on around them.

We all have a duty of care to each other; hence rule 169

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Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

So while you hold up a long queue of traffic behind, they have to make sure that they're not tailgating you and becoming impatient, but at the same time, it's your duty not to hold folks up unecessarly


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:31 am
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@rollindoughnut

Maybe you need to watch a bit of this 🙂


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:32 am
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Only place I get it (fairly) regularly (I don't drive long distances much) is the A34, cos it's a dual carriageway and lots of lorries slow the traffic down - as said above I just slow down by 5-10mph and most of them get the message. The ones who don't get the message don't even know they're doing it, so I just either
- ignore or
- stay in the way as long as possible to wind them up, or
- get out of the way.
Depends on my mood.
But don't do what I do cos I is a shit driver. Ask anyone who's been in my car.

Oh, if I get it on a 30mph road, I just go 29mph exactly. **** em if they don't like it.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:39 am
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Interesting replies so far. There is one section of road that this happens to me quite often it’s a 30mph downhill section for about 1/2 mile on a straight piece of road. I always stick to 31-32mph indicated yet almost everyone else flies up behind. Now some will overtake, others will just sit very close behind. I now tend to keep as far left as possible and continue. I have tried gently slowing and letting them past but this just seems to irritate those who wouldn’t have overtaken in the first scenario judging by the flashing lights and hand gestures. Can’t win.
Edit: I should perhaps explain that the reason this is a 30 limit road is that there are some houses dotted along the road and a number of footpaths that cross it so I believe that it is an appropriate speed to keep to


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:39 am
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Driving less than that to me suggests one of a few things; New driver, someone not paying attention, or someone for whom driving is still an all consuming business and hasn’t got the awareness to pay attention to everything that’s going on around them.

Narrow road, parked cars, children playing, poor visibility, adverse conditions...


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:43 am
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So I take matters into my own hands.

You're driving a tonne and half of machine that requires you to pay attention. Either (with respect) grow the **** up or stop driving. People pissing about either tailgating or driving badly to put off tailgaters or somehow "getting revenge" just makes everyone else's life harder.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:44 am
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In Sept last year I had a land cruiser, which was also towing a dual Axel trailer with a car on, rear end me at 80km+ as I slowed to turn right. They had been close a few times and I kept speeding up to get some space but she kept catching up. Windy back country road in Oz. I was going ng to pull over and let her pass but we were nearly at our destination so pushed on. We had a trailer full of camping gear. 2 kids and my wife.

Had we not have had the trailer it could have been worse. I'm still freaked when big trucks or 4bies get close. It was not a pleasant experience.

Just pull over if you can. Let these idiots pass.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:44 am
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Sure, so be courteous to those around you and drive at 30. Driving less than that to me suggests one of a few things; New driver, someone not paying attention, or someone for whom driving is still an all consuming business and hasn’t got the awareness to pay attention to everything that’s going on around them.

Can I just check how much less than the speed limit is acceptable to the higher level drivers of the world? What percentage of the speed limit makes you a lesser driver?


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:50 am
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169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

This is clearly not directed at people driving a little under 30mph. It's for things like tractors, bicycles, and heavy vehicles that can't even get close to speeds safely achievable by other vehicles.

There are plenty of circumstances where 30 is not appropriate in a 30 limit, especially where there is a lot of traffic or parked cars lining the road, making it far more hazardous than without. The speed limit is set as the absolute maximum speed you should be doing under the best of conditions.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:50 am
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Depends on where i am, if i'm around my area in the 20 zone then i slow down some more if they are doing the daft stuff, as those tailgaters are just trying to bully me into going faster, same with some 30s.

If it's a A or B road, then i tend to do what others say, stay steady and keep my gap with the car in front, allowing those behind to overtake when safe, but again, as someone said, i've never understood why someone would be right in your boot before overtaking, you lose visibility for the overtake and the acceleration.

I use the A38 and A48 a bit where i see the accordion issue all the time, one driver doing 35 or so bunches everyone up, and then it just causes havoc with those overtaking zones, the ones that annoy me the most are the tailgaters who box you in the second you hit the dual lane part of the road, they're overtaking in the hatch markings and just being idiots, just to then hit the standing traffic that'll be ahead of them in the towns.


 
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This is clearly not directed at people driving a little under 30mph. It’s for things like tractors, bicycles, and heavy vehicles that can’t even get close to speeds safely achievable by other vehicles.

There are plenty of circumstances where 30 is not appropriate in a 30 limit, especially where there is a lot of traffic or parked cars lining the road, making it far more hazardous than without. The speed limit is set as the absolute maximum speed you should be doing under the best of conditions.

Very much this.

I do worry about the fundamental understanding of the HWC of anyone who does not get this. To be clear there is no world where someone driving at 30 in a 30, or 29 or 28 or 27 or 26, or 25 should feel they need to pull over to allow others to make better progress.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:55 am
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I do worry about the fundamental understanding of anyone who does not get this. To be clear there is no world where someone driving at 30 in a 30, or 29 or 28 or 27 or 26, or 25 should feel they need to pull over to allow others to make better progress.

So much this and it astounds me that anyone can think differently.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:57 am
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This is clearly not directed at people driving a little under 30mph

If it was directed at a specific group then it would say so (as it does about large vehicles)  The HC tries to be as inclusive as it can - after all we share the road, so in this case the important parts of rule 169 are

Do not hold up a long queue of traffic This applies to everyone

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or slow-moving vehicle If you choose to drive under the speed limit, this is you.

It's not difficult. You share the road. If you behave like a dick by tailgating or by driving in a way to some-how seek revenge on tailgaters, then those are equally stupid. Because invariably all you are now concentrating on is either the car directly in front of you or the car directly behind you. If I now come behind the pair of you, I've now got two cars intent on nothing other than being dicks to each other, which makes my life harder and more dangerous


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:58 am
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Sure, so be courteous to those around you and drive at 30.

See this highlights the common problem we have where people believe, mistakenly, that the speed limit is the speed it's legal to drive at. It's not. It's the speed you cannot exceed.

The speed that it's legal to drive at is the speed which is safe. If you're on a road outside a school at pick up time, with cars parked down both sides of the road and lots of people milling about, then it's patently not safe to drive at 30mph. Nor is it really safe to do that on a regular, narrow residential road with cars parked up and down it and very narrow pavements. Context is everything here and 20mph in the right speed in those instances.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 11:58 am
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Context is everything here and 20mph in the right speed in those instances.

Of course, the OP is about tailgating, what are your actions if someone tailgates you in this context. If your immediate reaction is "That's their problem" then why aren't you thinking; "I'll  just get out f this person's way?"


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 12:04 pm
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I do worry about the fundamental understanding of anyone who does not get this. To be clear there is no world where someone driving at 30 in a 30, or 29 or 28 or 27 or 26, or 25 should feel they need to pull over to allow others to make better progress.

This, and I'd add 24, 23, 22, 21 and 20. And slower, if conditions require it.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 12:06 pm
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We’re not talking about overtaking here. We’re talking about cocks driving up your ass to show their displeasure.

How close is too near for you?


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 12:07 pm
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If I now come behind the pair of you, I’ve now got two cars intent on nothing other than being dicks to each other, which makes my life harder and more dangerous

This in spades.
Probably different if you are on a deserted highland A road, but here in congested southern englandshire where an empty road infront of you is rarer than a mooing steak, this is my first thought any time someone gleefully describes slowing down or deliberately annoying other road users behind them.


 
Posted : 14/04/2022 12:08 pm
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The speed that it’s legal to drive at is the speed which is safe. If you’re on a road outside a school at pick up time, with cars parked down both sides of the road and lots of people milling about, then it’s patently not safe to drive at 30mph. Nor is it really safe to do that on a regular, narrow residential road with cars parked up and down it and very narrow pavements. Context is everything here and 20mph in the right speed in those instances.

That's why those types of areas are 20 zones, with speed bumps, crossing wardens, etc, etc. It's not helped by the lack of any policing of the Road Traffic Act or the likes.

Have to be honest, i've never worried about tailgating in town, i don't even treat it as that, it's just impatient drivers who have no real thought of overtaking like you do on an A or B road.


 
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