I’m wondering if that’s being harsh on Enoch – given their respective backgrounds, how the hell has she arrived at a similar position?
Pull the ladder up I can swim.
I have a feeling this Sunday might be a shit show, as if it isn’t hard enough for some already.
I suppose with the Tories so far behind in the polls & Sunak so weak , it was inevitable that some of them would go balls deep in the culture war
you only have to look at the front page of the sun today to see that stirring this up to try desperately to save the government
We had a really good chat at Cubs this week, we asked them to bring stories of their great grandparents and relatives who'd had sereved in ww2, afghanistan etc, it was something they really focused on& engaged with (not always easy for some of them) and it was a really good session, we also made some poppies and will be doing our own remembrance march on Sunday, a world away from the politicisation and nonsense braverman & co are stirring up.
with no 10 disowning the article Little Rishi has no option now but to sack her now. But they handle everything so badly he looks so indecisive, can you imagine him ordering lunch ! 😕
There’s a little sliver of hilarity in all this. She’s got right up the loyalists’ noses by thoughtlessly referring to orange order traditions as “sectarian hate marches”. They’re going buck-wild at being compared to Jihadis.
It's also interesting that the Torygraph didn't give No 10 a heads up before publishing so he could get ahead of the story and a least sack her with looking like he'd been forced into it by the Opposition.
Her knowledge of Northern Irish politics is clearly zero (surprise surprise, again!) if she's comparing Unionists to Jihadi's. What she's proving yet again, when you get behind all the hate-filled rhetoric, is that she's as thick as mince, isn't she?
Ultimately we've got Boris Johnson to thank for all this.
Him playing fast and loose with the democratic norms of our unwritten constitution has set the tone for those he appointed and who succeeded him. They also share his contempt for democracy but now we've got people like Cruella, with some genuinely sinister agendas, using the same playbook.
I suppose it was inevitable really. Hasn't taken long has it? Its only going to get worse over the next 12 months as they obviously see whipping up division as their only viable option to try and avoid electoral annihilation
As a Buddhist she is in for a very unhappy life with all the shit she has pulled being that karma would be a thing for her.
Anyone got that feeling of imminent action we had as Boris's collapse drew inevitably near?
She's currently smirking in front of the Covid-19 inquiry.
She sounds like a consomethinge professional and a bit of a namby-pamby liberal in comparison to her successor
Remember the good old days when we thought Priti Patel as Home Secretary was about as bad as it could get?
The lobby briefing had a load of questions about Braverman according to the Gruaniad and it very much looks like Sunak is putting space between him and her and getting ready to sack her
Rats in a sack again
I don't know what else he expected when he appointed the woman who'd deservedly been sacked 6 days earlier.
So she's clearly going for a record of being sacked as home secretary twice by two different Prime Ministers in just over 12 months. You really couldn't make it up, could you?
Sorry, forget that Covid Inquiry stuff, I'm mixing up my Home Secs.
Are we going to do a sweepstake on her sacking? I'm going for Sunday evening so the news is buried in remembrance stuff
I’ll take Sunday morning as it won’t even register on the news channels then either.
Before or after the riot she incited?
Before or after the riot she incited?
There's an easier option which is just to ensure she's caught in the crossfire. It'd solve a lot of problems and it'd be a great bit of irony for a Government that doesn't seem to understand consequences.
I'd say 10am as then the news channels will be full of pre-remembrance stuff. I don't think any timing of a riot or otherwise will make much difference.
Labour not shy in pointing out how weak sunak is atm
https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1722576504725397702
I'm going for later this afternoon for her to be invited for a meeting with no biscuits.
If she's not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.
If she’s not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.
Not an image I wanted
If she posted on here would she have a ban?
She’s directly mounting a leadership bid, challenging whatever authority Sunak has.
Breach of ministerial code (although that seems to be a daily occurrence these days), signing off legislation that was previously rejected by Parliament, inciting hatred….
She is just a fascist leader-in-waiting.
What's the old saying? "Go for the job you want, not the one you have"...
Just like she did when both Boris and Truss looked shaky, she's getting her pitch in a bit early I reckon, The job(s) she wants is either to become the full bore Right Wing Meeja mouthpiece, being paid to spout via GBeebies and the DM without the inconvenience of having to pretent to be an MP, let alone a Minister.
The only other role She's maybe after is Leader of the coming Tory opposition, hedging her bets thar once Lil' Rishi loses the party will lurch further right and if she can look like the biggest bastard in the parlimentary contingent the job will be hers, again no need to deliver anything other than hate speech at a dispatch box.
If she manages to wind up the RW loons and turn a protest march into a Riot that might be a touch too much, and she'll not just be gone from the cabinet but she may well put herself on thin ice as an MP.
But then that level of martyrdom could well suit her.
I’m going for later this afternoon for her to be invited for a meeting with no biscuits.
Its tricky since some of her allies have announced she wants to be sacked and the opposition have called for it as well.
He may be determined to hold out.
Can he appoint her as minister for overseas territories and send her to a newly establish office on the Falklands?
Can he appoint her as minister for overseas territories and send her to a newly establish office on the Falklands?
Rwanda surely?
After all, she said how wonderful it was there.
She'd probably need a UK office too, I understand there's a barge down off Portsmouth somewhere which could easily accommodate her.
Who was it who described Cummings as a 'Career Psychopath'?
Suella.... "hold my beer"
I reckon she spends her evenings beating kittens to death with a claw hammer
personally think its hilarious that she's calling out Orange Marches for being hate marches
as leader her only likely chance of being PM would be a minority with DUP support!!
According to the Daily Telegraph, no less:
The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.
Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version.
It means, in effect, that Mrs Braverman and her team ignored specific requests from the Prime Minister’s team about the exact wording of her article on pro-Palestine marches.
The Telegraph understands that the article was shared with No 10, which provided edits. However, some of these were never incorporated in the final version.
It is understood that Mrs Braverman’s comment comparing the pro-Palestine protest to Ulster marches in Northern Ireland was one requested edit.
It is unclear what, if any, action will be taken by No 10 over Mrs Braverman and her team’s actions.
So she is now openly defying the Prime Minister. I reckon that it is fairly conclusive that she is trying to get the sack.
personally think its hilarious that she’s calling out Orange Marches for being hate marches
The dupes seem to have let her off though. I guess they realise anyone mad enough to have much in common with them arent exactly going to be great at history.
Anyone remember the South Park episode with Lemmiwinks?
This situation is starting to feel very similar.
If she posted on here would she have a ban?
Interesting point - I'm not sure she would. Unpleasant opinions and inflammatory, but I think she skates along the line without going over it.
Which makes you wonder what her current username is.....
Interesting point – I’m not sure she would. Unpleasant opinions and inflammatory, but I think she skates along the line without going over it.Which makes you wonder what her current username is…..
She'd have reported everyone on this thread. It's always the case with these far-right nutters, they can give it out but never take it. They're always very keen on freedom of speech and democracy and will hide behind those to say hateful things but as soon as anyone says "excuse me, don't you think you're being a bit...y'know...fascist?" they're the first ones running to mummy and crying that the nasty/leftie man said rude/woke things.
Before trying to enact legislation that stops people from saying rude or "woke" things and thus inadvertently proving the point that they are in fact fascist.
Not dissimilar to conspiracy theorists who are quite able to frame their beliefs as "doing their own research" or "challenging the status quo" or "keeping an open mind" or somesuch but as soon as anyone says "you're talking total shit and here's the evidence to prove it" they go "la la la, you're in with Them, you're one of Them!"
The dupes seem to have let her off though.
She's "clarified" that she meant Republicans.
She’s “clarified” that she meant Republicans.
So in any conflict, only one side can have "hate marches"?
Well lets hope the protests are peaceful. If they turn violent she’s going to be saying ‘told you so’
Only if the trouble comes from the stop the war side.
If it's a right wing group that starts the trouble, we can go back to Braverman and say "We told you so"
Well lets hope the protests are peaceful.
Well up until now the protests have been extremely peaceful, that hasn't stopped her calling them "hate marches" though.
If on Saturday Yaxley-Lennon and some of his cohorts get arrested for turning up at the Cenotaph looking for trouble, and there no more than the usual couple of dozen arrests which you might expect from a huge crowd of many thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands, among those calling for a ceasefire, then she will present this as an example of police biase.
We recently had our local Tory MP in the shop. He's fond of a photo op and has held us up in parliament as shining beacons of capitalism.
I asked him if he was here as a customer or as an MP.
He replied mp and I told him that we were no longer happy for our shop to be linked to his party.
He asked why and I said it was because they had gone BNP.He said that was a bit strong and I just said Braverman . He gave me a look and quickly changed the subject.
GB News’ Christopher Hope says government whips are contacting Tory MPs to ask why they think about Suella Braverman’s Times article.
Weak ol Sunak is looking to see if he has the support of his MPs to sack her?
He may be determined to hold out.
The fact that he was forced to sack both Raab and Zahawi because of media/opposition pressure makes me think you're probs right on that score.
She’s “clarified” that she meant Republicans.
"Dissident" Republicans, apparently:
Suella Braverman has been forced to clarify that she had been referring to dissident republicans in an article in which she likened the pro-Palestine protests in London to sectarian marches in Northern Ireland.
Which makes even less sense as she claimed that it was in the context of, quote: "the kind we are more used to seeing in Northern Ireland”.
I can't remember ever seeing a report of a Dissident Republican march in Northern Ireland, never mind being used to them.
She's ****ing clueless! As thick as mince!
You'd think that if you were going to make such controversial statements, you might at least do the most rudimentary research into the subject you're publishing an article on in a national newspaper and subsequently spouting off opinions about
Anyone got that feeling of imminent action we had as Boris’s collapse drew inevitably near?
It really is beginning to look like things are going to fall over quickly now - dominoes just about to topple. Maybe wishful thinking but its how it feels with more and more info coming out by the minute
edit
I don't think Sunak will go but Braverman has to be sacked given the tory mps briefing against her, the public knowledge that she did this without approval of number 10 and the actual content.
If she is sacked I suspect a few will resign in protest at her sacking.
