Boo, was hoping she had joined the resign with immediate effect bandwagon. 🙁
So was I
So was I
+1
Is disappoint.
It gives me no pleasure in being correct about this one but with this lot you just have to start with the lowest of expectations and you’re pretty much assured that that’s how it will end up playing out.
Boo, was hoping she had joined the resign with immediate effect bandwagon.
She can't resign until Jabba says so.
Meanwhile, back in Rwanda, Kagame has just purged his inner circle of intelligence and defence officers, presumably in fear of a coup, possibly assisted by the Democratic Republic of Congo (the government of which Kagame and Rwanda has long sought to depose through proxy forces).
Still, I'm sure the sportswashing highly efficient Arsenal shirt sponsorship will keep the tourist dollars rolling in...
"Gove came out before Christmas....."
Isn't this still the subject of a Court Superinjuction, that means you can't even refer to the super injuction, let alone the subject of it?
Hmmm Dame Or Lady Braverman wonder what just desserts she’ll get.
Cruella is going to go into meltdown!
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1674345558973071361?s=20
I await tomorrow mornings inevitable 'Enemies of the People' headlines
lefty lawyers and lefty judges enemies of the people headline coming to a facist rag in 5, 4, 3, 2.....
^^^^
The predictability of it is so boring now.
But, as has been shown many times in the last seven and a bit years, there is a large rump of racist halfwits out there willing to lap it up.
https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1674349341287362560?s=20
Add in the legal fees of christ-only-knows-what and I wonder how much this nonsense has cost the taxpayer so far?
They'll have known full well it would be deemed illegal. Its just all part of their culture war and them doing whatever the opposite of virtue signalling is
£200m in the bank for doing precisely nothing.
This is an aspect I don’t really get, though.
£200m is chump change for Kagame, or has he already spent the proceeds of looting eastern Congo's mineral riches?
Cruella is going to go into meltdown!
Illegal Illegal Migration Bill...
From the party of law and order. The party that really put the party into Downing Street. The party that has been party to tens of billions of pounds of fraud over Covid funds.
Who'd have thought it?!
There was a report at the weekend that tne cost per person for Rwanda was greater than the cost of housing them here, but i can't find it now.
So no moral, legal or financial case.
fail comments never fail
This is disgusting. Unelected judges getting to make up any rules they like.
to parody themselves 😀
The thing that baffles me about it, is that generally speaking lots of folks (still, despite this govt obvious pantomime cruelty) are either OK with the levels of immigration - or understand at least the need for it and are generally welcoming towards refugees. And there's a significant minority of Tory voters who think it's (the current policy) cruel and unfair. The only thing that stands out as very unpopular are the small boat in the channel, and that could be stopped overnight by allowing the immigration service to actually do the job its civil servants are there to do - process claims.
From the party of law and order.
I don't think they even pretend that any more, do they?
They have been a party of populist nationalism with the usual lashings of prejudice and intolerance for seven years and five days now.
At least that's the paint job on the outside of the vehicle. Inside it is a mixture of true believer lunatics and outright grifters.
I think with immigration if you continuously give it media coverage about it people get unhappy but if its not talked about then no-one seems to be that interested and there's more important things - like cost of living that people are more interested about.
There was a report at the weekend that tne cost per person for Rwanda was greater than the cost of housing them here, but i can’t find it now.
I saw that. I think the figure was £169,000
Edit; [url] https://news.sky.com/story/revealed-how-much-it-will-cost-the-govt-to-send-one-illegal-migrant-to-rwanda-12910059 [/url]
It's suggested that that's one reason for the delay in processing applications - the longer they house them, the smaller the difference between Rwandaring them and processing their applicatiin here.
So now they plan to appeal
for ffs how much more of my money are they planning to waste on this doomed initiative . An initiative that is not only immoral, but even if it did work will cost us more per head in the long term
Absolutely sick of these scumbags using my hard earned tax to try to curry favour with a hardcore of ignorant racists
The only thing that stands out as very unpopular are the small boat in the channel, and that could be stopped overnight by allowing the immigration service to actually do the job its civil servants are there to do – process claims.
Unfortunately, that's not entirely true, because about a third of those coming across in small boats are Albanians. The vast majority of those people would never ever be granted asylum in the UK no matter how easy, cheap and rapid the UK government review of their cases. They're going to keep coming as long as the UK economy is stronger than the Albanian economy, and crossing by boat is a way to work for a while before either wangling a way to stay or being sent back.
So assess their case quickly, reject them, then stick them on a plane back to Albania.
job done..
obviously that won’t appease the racists that want to see these brown skinned folks punished for having the audacity to dream of a better life, but it seems cheaper, less immoral, and substantially less complicated than shipping them off to Rwanda.
They’re going to keep coming as long as the UK economy is stronger than the Albanian economy
To be fair, we're working on that angle too.
Liz Truss's has just said "hold my beer".
No one's told her it is Ribena and she won't notice anyway.
The only thing that stands out as very unpopular are the small boat in the channel,
Sort of related - I saw a tweet earlier (can't find it now. 🙁 ) from a Tory MP who has some family member or other rowing across the Atlantic at the moment from the USA to the UK and posted a screenshot of the tracker.
Oh the responses. Absolute gold.
The only time a Tory has been looking forward to the arrival of a small boat.
Will you be sending them to Rwanda when they arrive?
Thought you wanted to stop the boats.
🤣
Home Secretary Suella Braverman said the "system is rigged against the British people"
Brilliant. This woman is both a barrister and a Tory politician, and yet she has no faith in British justice. It conjures up images of a Mock The Week segment "Things you wouldn't hear a Tory Home Secretary say"
So what does she propose....... that the UK the withdraws from the British judiciary system with all its anti-British sentiments? What would a true patriot do?
So assess their case quickly, reject them, then stick them on a plane back to Albania.
Just out of interest, how long do you think that takes? What do you want to happen to the applicants in the meantime? And what do you think is the current state of affairs at the immigration detention centres near Heathrow and Gatwick?
tpbiker
Free MemberSo assess their case quickly, reject them, then stick them on a plane back to Albania.
Irony is this is the fix for the entire problem, and the tories know it's the fix because it was them that created the problem by breaking the home office in the first place. We don't really have an issue with the number of people arriving- we have an issue that we don't process them fast enough or well enough or accurately enough so the number of simultaneous cases- ie human beings trapped in limbo- will still go up even if the number of people arriving is drastically reduced.
It's weird, because people who hate foreigners should hate the tories for this. Staff and skill and equip the relavent departments adequately- let's not get carried away with properly, even adequately is an improvement. Stop making the systems intentionally byzantine, stop leaving paperwork to gather dust for 6 months then complaining, stop making so many faulty first decisions and then complaining about all the appeals. Just do the damn job. But every home secretary for years has seen that they can generate political capital by not doing the job, and at least one used that as her springboard to prime minister.
But as long as the headlines are about small boats or leftie lawyers rather than tories deliberately not doing their jobs, that's not going to change.
moimoifan
Free Member£200m is chump change for Kagame, or has he already spent the proceeds of looting eastern Congo’s mineral riches?
I suppose it's £200m of completely legal money with a peerless source, in sterling, probably in a foreign bank, that can be spent without any restriction or suspicion or particular attention or analysis, which is a definite asset.
But kleptomaniacs don't generally care about "enough". You'd think that tories had stolen enough from the british people after all, £200m is a drop in the bucket there too especially considering the budgets that they're tirelessly pissing away in the home office.
It’s getting to the point where watching Cruella get her arse handed to her by Yvette Cooper is like watching a wildlife documentary where a wounded animal is inevitably going to get torn to shreds, but it’s too dumb to do anything about it
No wonder she rarely bothers turning up to Parliament for the ritual humiliation and sends some sacrificial mug like Jenrick instead
Can’t we just put the bloody woman on a plane to Florida with a one-way ticket, and cancel her passport when she gets there?
Just out of interest, how long do you think that takes?
I imagine much less time that it does now if the money spent on this ridiculous Rwanda proposal was spent on staffing the folks doing the processing.
Yeah saw that but would that be different if that was a secret vote? Even QT audiences know that they'll be all over social media tomorrow if they put their hand up.
Can we just Nike her from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Can we just Nike her from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.
What, parachute her halfway, then make her run the rest of the way?
Yeah saw that but would that be different if that was a secret vote?
Why would it? BBCQT audiences aren't known for being shy about expressing their opinions.
And Fiona Bruce claimed that there were more Tory voters in the audience than supporters of other parties, so this was very much a political audience involving people who were happy to say where there political loyalties lay.
I have to say that I am very surprised by what that clip reveals because I believe that many people have fallen for the Tory government lie that sending asylum seekers to Rwanda is for the good of those involved and a means of fighting the evil people smugglers.
But probably not quite as surprised as all those who think that the average voter is a racist.
There was quite a bit of exposure last week on the Brexit episode with roof lady etc. So some might not want to shove their head above the parapet.
Devils advocate.
I have just discovered that it isn't the first time that question has been put to a QT audience. Back in March Fiona Bruce asked the same question:
Debating plans to send asylum seekers to East Africa, presenter Fiona Bruce asked: ″Is there anyone here who supports what the government is doing?”.
Everyone in the audience barring one person kept their hand down.
I am shocked!
And this was last December when 90% of the public didn't support the Tory Rwanda policy:
Bearing in mind that there was much higher public support when the policy was first announced, even if it wasn't an actual majority, it suggests that the more it is discussed, and the more people think about it, the less support it gets.
politecameraaction
Free MemberJust out of interest, how long do you think that takes?
The target used to be to process 98% of straightforward asylum claims within 6 months. In 2017, 99% of all such applications were processed within 6 months. It was abandoned completely in 2019.
It's 10% now.
And why does it take 6 months to process a straight forward asylum claim. Be good to know what exactly is involved.
The rejections should be quick to deal with, the accepted will take a bit of time but that's alright because the claim has been accepted so the claimant will be living in UK anyway, just a matter of time to sort out the logistics.
An SNP MP made the point in parliament yesterday that this is exactly the outcome that the Tories wanted.
The whole Rwanda farce is a culture war distraction in the first place, rather than a serious policy to actually address the issue. The problem isn't not being able to ship people to Rwanda. The problem is the shambolic state of the home office and their complete failure to process the claims of asylum seekers (the vast majority of which are accepted)
But instead of doing anything to fix that, the right wing press now get to go into full 'Enemies of the People' mode about the appeal court, Cruella gets to blame 'lefty lawyers' and, as usual, everything is everybody else's fault, nothing to do with the party thats been in power for 13 years
everything is everybody else’s fault, nothing to do with the party thats been in power for 13 years
The party of personal responsibility?
