Also, I used to have a recumbent with under seat steering. An overtaking driver yelled at me:
"do you work at BT then?"
(the research labs at Martlesham? Er, yes, I do. Good guess 🙂 )
Road tax, are drivers so stupid that they don't realise you can buy a car such as a Nissan Leaf that is 0 rated!!!!!
Road tax, are drivers and cyclists so stupid that they don't realise it hasn't existed for 80 years!!1!
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On the motorbike, I filtered between a bus and a truck, guy behind me tried to follow, clipped one of them and bounced around between the two like a spacehopper falling down a well. "You shouldn't have gone into that gap, it was too small", he says. Impressive how much stuff falls off a GS when you do something like that though
mrmo - MemberRoad tax, are drivers so stupid that they don't realise you can buy a car such as a Nissan Leaf that is 0 rated!!!!!
Or a classic. For some reason, most people that say it to me, are driving little shitboxes and therefore pay less road tax than I do on my proper car, but it's a wee bit too elaborate to get into at the roadside.
Me: Hi Alan (neighbour old likes shoooting stuff) how you doing?
Alan: Why do you lot ride on the road?
Me: You lot?
Alan: Yes you know cyclist, bloody roads are busy you just get in he way.
Me: I suppose they are going places like you.
Alan: Yes but Playford(small village) roads are small you cant get past.
Me: Why are you going that way.
Alan: The main roads so busy, always jammed up.
Me: What with people in cars?
Alan: Bloody cyclists
Ita a simple world for some.
Need to get to work.
Need to get an Audi
Need to get likes
Need to get home and watch xxx
You and your logic can just **** off and do one.
bounced around between the two like a spacehopper falling down a well.
Thanks, you own me a new keyboard, this one is full of orange juice.
Nothing too spectacular for me, although I avoid busy roads if possible.
I heard some revving behind me approaching a traffic island in a built up 30mph zone.
I was in primary in good time as the white paint indicating a cycle lane was broken, and it was a pinch point.
There were also parked cars before and after the island.
The 'cycle lane' was only about half a metre off the raised curb anyway.
So it was one of those situations where you just ride right in the middle of the available space.
Turned my head right to see a car out of the corner of my eye almost mash over the bollards on the central island, and braking suddenly.
I flapped my right arm to signal to slow down.
Got along side me just after the traffic island and shouted, "why aren't you in the cycle lane, it's there for you!"
He sped off before I could compute and shout a reply.
On a club road ride we had a car full lads over take us hanging out the windows shaking beans at us etc. 200 yards later round the they're were stuck in the queue of traffic at the a T junction as 15 of us rolled up behind them. Funny enough the windows were shut and they were as quiet as mice.
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Or a classic. For some reason, most people that say it to me, are driving little shitboxes and therefore pay less road tax than I do on my proper car, but it's a wee bit too elaborate to get into at the roadside.
There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Road. Tax
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The pedantry on here about road tax is becoming embarrassing to read! It's that thing you pay to use your dirty car.
There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Road. Tax
And even VED isn't a ringfenced tax so roads are paid for out of general taxation.
It's that thing you pay to use your dirty car.
No, it's the thing you pay to be able to keep your dirty car on the road. To use it you need the appropriate licence and insurance.
Good grief.
I had somone once overtake me a few m before a red light and cut right in so I couldn't get to the ASL - when challenged he said " the light was red" meaning he was stopping me from jumping the light
I have also had the "all cyclists jump red lights nd ride on the pavement when pointing out to a driver that they were in the ASL box. This while I was waiting at the red light in the road correctly!
"Sorry, I didn't see you, I'm late for the hairdressers"
Stupid bint.
The pedantry on here about road tax is becoming embarrassing to read! It's that thing you pay to use your dirty car.
It's important to challenge it, as it gives motorists the notion that they're entitled to use the road because they "pay for it" in a way that cyclists don't (ignoring of course the fact that most cyclists own cars too).
[quote=shifter ]The pedantry on here about road tax is becoming embarrassing to read! It's that thing you pay to use your dirty car.
unless your vehicle is not dirty in which case its free just alike a bicycle
Its also not been called road tax for getting on for a century so what you call pedantry is just factually correct.
I pay the full road tax for my bike £0 per year as I could with certain cars because the emissions are near zero.
Some of you need to update your "road tax" arguments a bit.
As of this year it is flat rate (after first payment), so the "I pay more for my car than he does" argument is out. As is the "low emissions" argument. (Electric is still free though).
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables
Also I believe vehicle tax [i]is[/i] now to be ringfenced into a "road fund" for spending on the roads, but [i]only[/i] for the Strategic Road Network.
The argument you now want there is that the SRN is only about 2% of roads - 4,300 miles of motorways and major A(M) trunk roads that are mostly unusable to cyclists. Other roads are maintained by local authorities which we [i]all[/i] pay for via council tax and general taxation.
Also I believe vehicle tax is now to be ringfenced into a "road fund" for spending on the roads, but only for the Strategic Road Network.
How far will that go? Expenditure will still be substantially from general taxation.
Its also not been called road tax for getting on for a century so what you call pedantry is just factually correct.
T'was referred to as "road tax", however incorrectly, on the .gov website as late as this century, so you can forgive people's confusion.
i can but not if they are on here. Here its been done to deathso you are just wrong 😉
Should have been stuck on fuel years ago anyway.
Just remembered, probably the single most moronic thing I've heard a driver say. Tried to erase it from my memory as I still have to work in the same office as this dickhead.
"I don't mind cyclists, but they shouldn't ride in the rush hour.."
Good job he was talking to someone else and not me really.
Mr Woppit - MemberThere. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Road. Tax
And essentially nobody else gives a ****. Smartarsed pedantry only puts people's teeth on edge for no benefit. Every time I hear a cyclist come out with this I cringe, there's no response less likely to be productive or more likely to piss people off.
there's no response less likely to be productive or more likely to piss people off
Your Mum pays less road tax.
cubist - MemberYour Mum pays less road tax.
We drove to the drive-in and she didn't have to pay
Because we dressed her up to look just like a Chevrolet
Some of you need to update your "road tax" arguments a bit.[b]As of this year it is flat rate[/b] (after first payment), so the "I pay more for my car than he does" argument is out. As is the "low emissions" argument. (Electric is still free though).
This only applies to new cars registered 1st April 2017 onwards though. Cars registered before then are still subject to the varying rates dependent on emissions.
Children, children, calm down!
Somewhere on a Max Power forum there's a "stupid shit that cyclists say" thread with a link to this thread now.
Everyone (on STW at least, thank god this isn't the real world) knows VED =/= Road Tax. Lets not have a pissing contest over who can be more analy retentive over the semantics of whther the tax is hypothecated or not. Bessides, if you really want to split hairs then not really a tax on emissions either, otherwise it would be directed towards the NHS and Environment Agency.
[quote=Northwind ]And essentially nobody else gives a ****. Smartarsed pedantry only puts people's teeth on edge for no benefit. Every time I hear a cyclist come out with this I cringe, there's no response less likely to be productive or more likely to piss people off.
Yeah, but it's always in response to a complete idiot, so pissing them off is about the best outcome you can hope for - and any alternate response is far too nuanced for them to cope with.
I mean the correct response is that drivers are subsidised by the general tax paying population, but how productive is that likely to be?
Errrm, so not wanting to be difficult, what is the latest approved STW response to the oily oik shouting 'Oi, Lycra ****a! You don't pay road tax!'?
"I don't pay your mum either"
Everyone (on STW at least, thank god this isn't the real world) knows VED =/= Road Tax. Lets not have a pissing contest over who can be more analy retentive over the semantics of whther the tax is hypothecated or not.
The majority does indeed think this but what they think is not true
Just because most people believe an error this is no reason to pander to it, repeat it or get all upset, and defend it, when the actual facts are pointed out.
The point is that VED ("Road Tax") is paid on the vehicle and not towards maintaining the roads, which is what the wealders of the couplet who use it as an epithet, think that it is...
"I don't pay your mum either"
Good thing I didn't have a mouthful of food or drink when I read that! At least my pad is wipe-clean, unlike Cougar's keyboard, though... 😉
That one I'll have to try to remember. 😀
Was called a 'lycra lout' once (whilst commuting home in my jeans).
After explaining that I had kids to get home to and that I didn't wish to talk to him any longer, I mentioned that I though he was a very strange little man.
Did the job shockingly well.
Do you men types not like being called strange or little? lol
'Get off the ****ing road ya four eyed ****'
By a gamekeeper on The Moresdale Road, Arkengarthdale, Yorks Dales.
It's a bridleway.
I reported him to NY police for a public order offence & they had words with him & I'll wager he had something to do with the cache of poisons found on that estate to poison raptors.
I think he's called Richard Cranium.
"Nice bike dickhead" is the strangest one I've had shouted at me from a car window. "nice car **** face" was my response. People are really odd.
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The point is that VED ("Road Tax") is paid on the vehicle and not towards maintaining the roads..
But you can understand that confusion given the 2015 budget announcement by George Osborne:
[i]"..I will return this tax to the use for which it was originally intended.
I am creating a new Roads Fund. From the end of this decade, every single penny raised in vehicle excise duty in England will go into that Fund to pay for the sustained investment our roads so badly need.
Tax paid on people’s cars will be used to improve the roads they drive on. It is a major reform to improve the infrastructure and productivity of our economy – and deliver a fairer tax system for the motorist."[/i]
http://road.cc/content/news/156795-road-tax-back-chancellor-announces-vehicle-excise-duty-reforms-will-see-money
http://highwaysmagazine.co.uk/chancellor-announces-new-roads-fund/
https://www.localgov.co.uk/Budget-2015-Osborne-announces-dedicated-Roads-Fund/39001
So it's good to get our counter-argument sorted out now as clearly the old "it's not road tax" one will no longer hold (not that it ever did).
Anyways, to return slightly to the thread topic:
My missus was on the receiving end of the best daft comment. Cycling through Edinburgh, years ago, very much a novice on a bike, somebody shouted at her: [b][i]"Who do y'think you are? Linford f****** Christie??"[/i][/b] 😆
"Got your number 118"
Shouted at me by a youth leaning out the passenger window as they went round a roundabout I was waiting to join.
Its weird because i don't have a moustache or a running vest
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Now [i]that[/i] is an odd thing to say... 😉
[i]Now that is an odd thing to say...[/i]
It's what they all [i]think[/i] though 😀
"Oi, are you in a car?"
Shouted by someone who turned down a side road before I could think of a witty response 🙁
Only had one negative 'Get on the cyclepath!?!' comment in years.
Everyone seems to like a fat bloke on a bike.
Been cheered up Llanberis pass one summer by an entire family hanging out of a Tatra convertible.
The odd ironic cheer or 'Nice arse' from kids in cars but I can live with that.
🙂
Wife seems to get a couple of dodgy comments every year, usual stuff.
Cruising out of town with the club for the Thursday evening chaingang, and got an supposedly ironic "YEAH! WINNING AT LIFE!!!" jibe from a pedestrian. He was an adult and everything...
That was last week, and I still don't understand what message the comment was conveying. Answers on a post[card] please...
Half of me wishes I'd stopped and asked him now.
