[Closed] Started my low carb diet today, 21 stone, going to update weekly.

More Poop.Less scoops.

I'm genuinely interested in how it goes. Thanks for posting.

Good luck!

Good luck dude..

I am not personally a fan of low carb diets, particularly ones that put you in ketosis. I just really don’t think they are sustainable or necessary. 

You might want to reassess once you up your activity and get on Zwift

I went from over 114kg down to 88kg. Consistency is key

All the best.

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Neck a litre of Sunsweet Prune Juice FTW. Go on, give it a try, I dare you!

Not tempted to visit us fatties in the Corpulent thread then?

Thanks for the comments guys, on the whole! Lol

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Looks like the forum is throwing a few glitches up with quotes etc.</span>

Hopefully my diet didn't do the same!

Ok,quote function is broken?

I'll dip my toes mate (corpulent thread) but my diet is going to be a little unconventional as will be evident over the weeks to come. 😉

We have people eating dust in there.....plus the usual low carb bods 🙂

Doesn't matter what your diet is - Chub Club is there for motivation.

We're all taking different approaches

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49 years old and spend far too much time sitting down. Also eat and drink too much!

Why do you think you need a low carb diet? Just eat and drink a bit less and move about more. Especially at 21 stone you're not exactly struggling to get rid of the last 5% body fat.

All the best Poopscoop.  One tip I thought I'd share is try not to get hung up on what the scales say on any given day.  Some days it will be higher than the last weigh-in, other times it will be lower.  The key is to look at it over a longer time scale and hopefully see a downwards trend, despite daily/weekly/whatever ups and downs.

When my wife was trying to lose some post-baby unwanted shapely bits she would often be quite elated at having lost a couple of pounds compared to the week before, and a bit dejected at having put on similar over a week.  It took some doing (and she still struggles to get past it sometimes) to point out that over the last year she has actually lost a fair bit of weight and is doing well.

Poopscoop ...

I went from 141 kgs to 106 kgs ....

I followed a very low calorie diet for 10 weeks .... the aim was to reverse diabetes... which it did.   I have drifted up to a 111 kg over the last year , so back of a fast ....

The Diest I follow is not healthy ... it is 600 calories a day ... but for a very short period of time.   And despite all negative comments , the results are sustainable but rely on a review of life style ... I now run and cycle every other day.

Alcohol is a real weight trigger for me , as is eating snacks ... so you have to learn not too eat them. If you save them fro treat then that is fine.

Tell everyone what you are doing and it is for health reasons .... then people are not tempted to make you break the diet.  And TBH, your friends, work colleagues, people you meet will be complete arseholes ... " just have one drink with me", "have a little bit of cake" etc... for them it becomes entertainment.

I made the statement that I was trying cure diabetes and didn't want my legs cut off .... after the initial reaction everyone became very supportive .... I travel a lot for work long haul, and even people entertaining me in Japan/US/ Singapore were really good.  The best thing was that everyone joined in in wanting to now how I was doing.

My diet was low everything ... done via slimfast and eating vegetable soup... boy , it makes your breath smell ..

Do what works for you

I try to follow low carb or low GI. If have something higher GI like bread or cereal that sets me off and I start craving food.

Thanks for posting the Tim Noakes vidoes. Done some interesting research on hydration also (actually he mentions it in the vid)

<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px;">then people are not tempted to make you break the diet.  And TBH, your friends, work colleagues, people you meet will be complete arseholes … ” just have one drink with me”, “have a little bit of cake” etc… for them it becomes entertainment.</span>

I'm not someone who "needs" to diet and always find when I do (so I don't end up having to) that even those who mean well try and derail me.

https://www.health24.com/Diet-and-nutrition/Weight-loss/The-golden-rules-of-Banting-20140409

https://www.biznews.com/health/2016/12/26/complete-idiots-guide-tim-noakes-diet-banting-lchf/

http://foodmed.net/2016/04/noakes-the-idiots-guide-to-lchf-and-banting/

<span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have been following the wild diet which is low carb/GI.</span>

<span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Since the 2nd Jan I have lost 21lbs with relatively little exercise. My plan is to focus on the diet mainly now while the weather is rubbish and will up my exercise as the weather improves and adjust my carb intake if I feel I need to.</span>

<span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have found that eating less carbs means I am less hungry so can easliy fast now till lunch time.</span>

Loads of great info at  http://fatburningman.com/

all the best.

Ok guys,

First weeks update!

Weight measured same time of day, similar clothes.

20 stone 3lb.

Physiologically feel better to have started rather than putting the diet off.

Had a big omelette earlier with lots of cheese. Will have 3 burgers in a bit with cheese, mayo and a tonne of veg. No buns obvs.

Hunger not been an issue as expected having done is carb in the past.

Thanks for links/vids above by the way guys !

Good luck been their done it. Pleased with the results. Lost about 5 stone. Easy to maintain as well. My carbs consist mainly of veg. No pasta bread, potatoes or pastry. No added sugar. Have upped my protein a bit. Don’t feel hungry no hunger pangs.

well done mate. I weighed less than you and didn't need to lose so much but I did low carb last January and lost a stone and a half which got me below my target weight.

I've kept that weight off despite now eating carbs again. Mainly I find that I just can't eat as many as I could before.

well done poop, keep it up!!

Second week update.

About 9lb lost, currently 19st 9lb...

Has hoped to lose a little more than that but still not bad!

I suspect some rather large cheese laced omelettes might have had an effect but shouldn't have in theory. Odd.

Will be cutting them down next week to see!

Hunger not an issue and drinking lots of fluids still.

Well done for sticking with it so far, it may help you with weight loss/fat as a fuel source if you supplement your diet with additional exogenous ketones, for more info check out  https://blog.bulletproof.com/85-in-a-state-of-ketosis-with-dominic-dagostino-podcast/

Has hoped to lose a little more than that but still not bad!

Not bad?  Nine pounds in a week is hardly insubstantial.  That's two 2-litre pop bottles. If I did that I'd probably be in hospital now.

Losing weight too fast isn't healthy, you're here for the long game and not a quick fix remember.

My boss is doing something similar. So far he has lost maybe 75 lbs in the first year. 20lbs in the first month.

He was eating once a day originally now he only eats 5-6 times a week. Still we went out to lunch and he ate 2lbs of meat (after cooking) for his meal... no sodas ever even diet, no snacks or sweets...

i think secretly he dreams of being a lion feasting once a week on a gazelle...

<span style="background-color: #eeeeee; color: #444444; font-size: 16px;">I suspect some rather large cheese laced omelettes might have had an effect but shouldn’t have in theory. Odd.

It's not that odd. Reducing carbs is a method of calorie reduction. Ketosis, Atkins, IF etc are all methods that reduce your calorie intake.

If you replace 3000 calories of bread with 3000 calories of cheese what's going to change? You eluded to the underlying issue in your first post - sitting down, eating too much - calories in v calories out in it's simplest form.

If you've found a method that works, has motivated you to eat less and do more and you can stick to it then great but don't be disheartened if you find the weight loss slows - it's about changing your attitude to food and activity as much as it is what you eat.

Fantastic work fella.... 9lb in a week even at a big start weight is absolutely EPIC ! Well done !

Tim Noakes - typical scientist.

"Don't eat fat, eat carbs"

"Don't eat eggs"

"Don't eat carbs"

"Stay hydrated"

"Eat eggs"

"Don't drink too much, drink to thirst"

Honestly, I don't know why people pay so much attention to him. By his own admission he doesn't know why this or that works. Pseudo-science that SEEMS to make sense to the gullible.

Re cheese - I find it *very* filling and satisfying, and reduces carb cravings.

By his own admission he doesn’t know why this or that works.

Typical non-scientist expecting simple answers to complex problems then whining when they don't exist 🙂

Read, understand principles, and experiment.  Lots of ways to solve the problem, and loads of personal variables.  Figure out what works.  To the OP - nearly 18lbs in 2 weeks is very good, keep at it until it stops working then start making adjustments.

If you replace 3000 calories of bread with 3000 calories of cheese what’s going to change?

Lots of things.  Insulin response, also satiety and appetite.  Try eating a plateful of chips - nom nom, they go down very easily.  Now try eating a plateful of carrots - you'd get fed up after about 1/4 of it, and have consumed fewer calories.

Satiety is a very complex thing.  Humans aren't simple machines.  As shown by the OP - he's lost 18lbs in two weeks.  According to simple theory that would mean a 4500 calorie deficit PER DAY, which is clearly not possible unless he's been on an arctic expedition at the same time.

Cougar
Losing weight too fast isn’t healthy

Why's that Cougar?

Interested in how you plan to keep the weight off once the low -carb thing is done, or target weight reached. Mate of mine did the Atkins years ago, worked really well, bought new trousers etc... Stopped the diet and put it all back on again (pretty much the story with fad diets, IME).

Is the low-carb thing sustainable long term, or will you just eat sensibly once the crash is complete?

If you replace 3000 calories of bread with 3000 calories of cheese what’s going to change?

There are metabolic differences in the type of calories you eat. Did you know fructose can only be processed in the liver

"fructose can only be metabolized by your liver, because your liver is the only organ that has the transporter for it.3

Take a look at this image:

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This shows the metabolic pathways for food. pretty complicated i'd say.

For me it's quite simple. Insulin is responsible for fat storage and fat utilisation. Reduce the amount of insulin then you'll reduce the amount of fat you store. The added benefit of low carb is it increases satiety.It's often hard to over eat on low carb. it's very easy to overeat on high carb.

"Our body gains or loses fat according to detailed hormonal instructions from our brain. The rise and fall of insulin is the main stimulus to weight gain. So, food that stimulate insulin are typically more fattening (cookies). Those that do not (kale) are typically not fattening at all. If the body cares about insulin (and other hormones too, but mostly insulin), then we need to use the common currency, speak the common language of the body. Insulin."

https://medium.com/personal-growth/the-useless-concept-of-calories-50831730cc81

[url= https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18175736 ]Effects of a high-protein ketogenic diet on hunger, appetite, and weight loss in obese men feeding ad libitum[/url]

"In the short term, high-protein, low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets reduce hunger and lower food intake significantly more than do high-protein, medium-carbohydrate nonketogenic diets."

Well done OP!

so are pork scratchings dietary supplements now?

I'm in........

Just as a bit of an idea I've been low-(ish) on the carbs since Jan 2nd

Jan 5-11th 932g of Carbs

12-18th 558g of Carbs

19-25th 828g of Carbs

26-1st Feb 873g of Carbs

this week 838g of Carbs

So thats ~120g of carbs a day and none of that is from Bread / Pasta / Potatoes etc...

Since 2nd of Jan I've dropped 1st 7lbs so far....

Stopped the diet and put it all back on again (pretty much the story with fad diets, IME).

Nothing faddy about it.  You eat the amount of carbs you need, no need to start stuffing them in your face again just because that's what everyone else does.  Even if you re-introduce carbs it's easy to keep them reasonably low volume and low GI.

Stopped the diet

+ Nothing faddy about it

"the diet" was referring to the Atkins Diet, clearly. Where is it now? It was a fad. If it's going outside of eating a normal, balanced diet, it's a fad diet.

And the rest of your reply is what I was asking. Well, I was asking poopscoop how he was going to continue.

“the diet” was referring to the Atkins Diet, clearly. Where is it now? It was a fad. If it’s going outside of eating a normal, balanced diet, it’s a fad diet.

The atkins diet was based on the Banting diet which was 1800's so not exactly a fad. Atkins is essentially low carb (low insulin)

Huge populations thrive on low carb diets like the inuits and masai tribes

<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px; background-color: #eeeeee;">Why’s that Cougar?</span>

AIUI, 'crash dieting' or 'losing weight too fast' will result in essential minerals and vitamins being in short supply, which in turn can lead to health problems.  as well as the bad skin and hair issues, there can be heart problems too.

i think your metabolism also slows down ('starvation mode') which in turn makes it harder to lose weight as your body clings to what fat it can.  somethings to do with leptin is it?  not sure.....

anyways, slow and steady wins the race 😉