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How long till the other manufacturers currently using micro/mini usb change to usb3 connectors anyway, is everyone going to be playing the accusations game then, or just accept that technology moves on.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 4:19 pm
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And I must have at least a dozen USB-to-microUSB leads lying around the house from various different devices.

Non-proprietary standards are great, aren't they? 😉


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 4:25 pm
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How long till the other manufacturers currently using micro/mini usb change to usb3 connectors anyway,

It's backwards compatible. A USB3 port will accept a USB2 cable, which should be sufficient for charging purposes. The power doesn't go any faster.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 4:32 pm
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Non-proprietary standards are great, aren't they?

They are. Shame half the leads are micro-A and half are micro-B.
And that I have to examine them to weed out the ones that are actually mini-A and mini-B 🙄

It'll be interesting to see how the tablet market deals with all this.
The iPad comes with a special 10w charger (5 volts at 2.1 amp) because it takes forever to charge the big battery on a normal USB 2.0 supply of 500mA.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 4:38 pm
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It's backwards compatible. A USB3 port will accept a USB2 cable, which should be sufficient for charging purposes. The power doesn't go any faster.

And what about all the other stuff that goes through the port.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 4:53 pm
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Interesting Count. Perhaps this could explain Jamie's earlier observation that Apple had just changed the MagSafe chargers "for no apparent reason".

That was so they could make the 15ins retina display laptop thinner- the non- retina display 13 & 15 ins laptops (which have the same case design as last years models) still use the "old" magsafe connectors. In a Apple complies with standard shocker, it also has USB 3 & HDMI!


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 5:35 pm
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And what about all the other stuff that goes through the port.

What about it? It'll still go through, just more slowly.

Can't remember when I last used a cable for anything other than power anyway. How very 20th Century.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 6:37 pm
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So your back to ignoring all the uses everyone else has, and just defining your own narrow requirements as the required "standard".

Are you being deliberately obtuse?


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 6:43 pm
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Apple charge about £3 a time for use of the dock connector, and pursue any unlicensed use of it. Of course they're not going to standardise...


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 7:27 pm
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Not too worried about phone chargers tbh, but It's a good job the bike industry doesn't have lots of standards
(rolls eyes)! A new frame has just cost me a small fortune in replacing non compatible parts


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 7:36 pm
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for a long time you never had to bother taking a nokia charger anywhere as EVERY house hold had at least 1 - even if there wasnt a nokia phone in the house.

Then in the space of just one year Nokia went from pretty much the number one phone maker in the world to not even being the best selling phone brand in Finland - anyone remember how they managed to pull off that stunt?


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 7:43 pm
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The iphone port passes far more information through it than a usb port is capable of, ie high quality audio.

Tell me... You didn't actually think this was true, did you?


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 7:51 pm
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As a result, world leading mobile phone producers committed themselves to ensure compatibility of data-enabled mobile phones, expected to be predominant in the market within two years, on the basis of the Micro-USB connector. The agreement was established in June 2009 and signed by [b]Apple[/b], Emblaze Mobile, Huawei Technologies, LGE, Motorola Mobility, NEC, Nokia, Qualcomm, Research In Motion (RIM), Samsung, Sony Ericsson, TCT Mobile (ALCATEL), Texas Instruments and Atmel (IP/09/1049).

Users will enjoy an easier life with their mobiles.
The number of chargers will be reduced
There will be a positive environmental impact.


 
Posted : 22/06/2012 10:59 pm
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ensure compatibility of data-enabled mobile phones, expected to be predominant in the market within two years, on the basis of the Micro-USB connector.

Yep. And Apple already offers micro-USB compatability for charging.
Including all their old phones, and iPods and iPads.

It looks like this:
[img] http://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/2402/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/MD099?wid=326&hei=326&fmt=jpeg&qlt=95&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.5,0.5,0,0&iccEmbed=0&layer=comp [/img]

😉


 
Posted : 23/06/2012 12:52 am
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5 pages about a phone charger? you lot need to get a grip and maybe catch some daylight or interact with real people.


 
Posted : 23/06/2012 9:37 am
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