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No cyclist will win it as too many nominated and it will split the vote.
All a bit controversial as it's sports "personality" or is it sporting achievement! Many say Murray doesn't have a personality I completely disagree. I love triathlon but BRownlee ... why cause he won an olympic medal again? There are more deserving people than that!
Controversial and complicated I won't be bothering voting but I will watch the program for some entertainment one evening.
As ever, astounded that anyone even cares who 'wins' this daft award.
I agree. The whole evening is usually a car crash of bad links, corny one-liners that the sportsperson next to the presenter looks deadpan at and some vomit inducing sentimentality.
I particularly like the confused expression usually worn by the overseas SPOTY as they're handed a tacky trophy by a representative of a broadcaster who most likely cannot afford to air their particular sport as Sky have bought it.
A waste of an evening.
Brownlee, for giving up his chance to win a race in order to help his brother. A bit of compassion in top level sport was great to see.
Hockey gold medalists for the team award
It's a load of bollocks and devalued by the inclusion of horse riders and golfers, but Laura Kenny (nee Trott) should win anyway.
Multiple Olympic gold medals - check
Awesome personality - check
High profile - check
About time a woman got it again - check
Personally I don't see the cycling vote being split too much, but maybe I'm biased towards her.
Who would I remove? The logical one in my mind is this:
Sophie Christiansen - Equestrian
Sitting atop a horse isn't a sport. Maybe the horse should win the award?
Why is Rachel Atherton not on the list? Because until the BBC realise that there is more to "Cycling" than road and track (Jason Kenny is on the list, under the sport of "Cycling") then there'll never be winners. How many people in the UK participate in track cycling vs downhill mountain biking? Or mountain biking as a whole? A tiny number I bet. But because its TV friendly.......
Multiple Olympic gold medals - check
Awesome personality - check
High profile - check
About time a woman got it again - check
Competes in a sport with not an awful lot of depth - check
Shes no more deserving of Rach imo. Its no coincidence that the olypians with the most medals mainly won them on the track. Like it or not, Track cycling is a sport that very few countries give much thought to - hence why the likes of Kenny, Hoy and Trott win multiple medals. Mo Farah's achievements are far superior IMO.
Leicester for team of the year - nothing comes close for me.
Surely the Kennys are a shoe in for the team award?
Shes no more deserving of Rach imo.
Yet IMO Rachel is quite deserving, getting a clean sweep is certainly not as easy as she makes it look.
And[i] like it or not[/i] awards like this are not decided purely on a rational basis, but on the candidates' personality, the breadth of their appeal and the profile of their sport.
Saying that, the flipping golfer will probably win.
Who to remove is easy.
Gareth Bale & Jamie Vardy - no brainer, they play football, part of a team, and a long way from being the best in the world at it
Nick Skelton & Sophie Christiansen - the horse deserves the nomination not the person who hangs on
Danny Willett - plays golf, enough said
I've noticed a couple of the usual comments along the lines of, '... doesn't have a personality so shouldn't win'. Sports Personality of the Year relates to the second meaning of personality below.
personality noun (CHARACTER)
B2 [ C or U ] the type of person you are, shown by the way you behave, feel, and think:
She has a very warm personality.
He is well qualified for the job, but he does lack personality (= he is a boring person).
personality noun (FAMOUS PERSON)
B2 [ C ] a famous person:
The show is hosted by a popular TV personality.
[b]Gareth Bale[/b] & Jamie Vardy - no brainer, they play football, part of a team, [b]and a long way from being the best in the world at it[/b]
I'm no footballer apologist but it's bit disingenuous to state that Bale is not one of the best in the world at it. One of the first names on the team sheet of a club with the coffers to buy any player they choose is a reasonable reference.
Gareth Bale & Jamie Vardy - no brainer, they play football, part of a team, and a long way from being the best in the world at it
Gareth Bale is easily up there as he is one of star men in the best club team in the world. He won the Champions league this year, semi finalist at the Euros.
Vardy is lucky chancer who had a fluke season.
Sports Personality of the Year relates to the second meaning of personality below.
And have you checked with everyone who votes that they understand that distinction?
And have you checked with everyone who votes that they understand that distinction?
Ah, but the 'personality' could win the personality of the year award because of performance or personality. So its ok to vote for the personality's personality. But you don't need personality to be crowned the personality.
I hope that clears it up.
Perfectly thanks Sir Humphrey.
I can only check after they've voted as until then I don't know whether or not they are voters.
Also, I'm highlighting the distinction in the two meaning for the benefit of discussion on this forum.
🙂Ah, but the 'personality' could win the personality of the year award because of performance or personality. So its ok to vote for the personality's personality. But you don't need personality to be crowned the personality.I hope that clears it up.
I would pick Murray because of he has achieved no other British has achieved.
Could argue that Nicola Adams competition in amateur boxing is as slim as the women's DH scene. Bye in the first round and then fought three times to win the gold. The pro scene could be very different for her if she decides on that route!
Murray for the win purely for the depth of talent in a global sport like tennis. Would like to see Max Whitlock pick something up as his all round gold was an amazing achievement.
[quote=DaveyBoyWonder ]How many people in the UK participate in track cycling vs downhill mountain biking?
I'd put my money on "more". Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening. How many DH competitions in the UK every year? Compared to dozens of tracks holding meets every week through the summer, and every week all through the year for the indoor ones.
But then the same could doubtless be said for all sorts of sports I'm not aware of either, which are more popular than DH MTB.