[Closed] Speed limiters on cars

Not before time if it's true tbh.

Finding it hard to think of a reason why not have a limiter

I think they're may be a bit of misunderstanding stemming from the clickbait articles. AFAIK they just allow the driver to set a limit. It's nothing new. My 2006 Saab had it. It just made a bloody annoying noise.
All my other cars have had them, but it consisted of using my brain and right foot. Means I don't get a stupid noise and headbutt the dash when I go on track.

I can already set a speed limiter on my car. I just prefer the turbo choo-choo noises.

Thankfully, you will be able to disable them.

Weird how people campaign for hard limiters on e-scooters and e-bikes, but the moment you tell them they can't pilot their two-tonne metal box at 50mph in a 20 zone, they get all upset.

Weird how people campaign for hard limiters on e-scooters and e-bikes, but the moment you tell them they can’t pilot their two-tonne metal box at 50mph in a 20 zone, they get all upset.

Wierd huh. Roads is dangerous but blackboxes are more of an infringement of civil liberties than the many road fatalities ...

Weird how everyone is kicking off about these scooters. They could solve so many problems.

Weird how everyone is kicking off about these scooters. They could solve so many problems.

+1

I'd love to see all the < 3mile journeys (where you don't have to carry loads of shopping) done on them, from people of all ages! Got to be better than taking a car 2.5 miles to have lunch with sally or get a haircut.

I have driven hire vehicles with one - I thought I was setting the cruise control but set a speed limit instead - the car simnply would not accelerate any more

I am all in favour of zero tolerance for bad driving - the roads would be clear of cars in a few months

those scooters are unregulated and pretty dangerous - to say nothing of being illegal in the UK

I have driven hire vehicles with one – I thought I was setting the cruise control but set a speed limit instead – the car simnply would not accelerate any more

I'd be driving that straight back to the hire company. What's the world coming to when you can't thrash a hire car?

I am all in favour of zero tolerance for bad driving – the roads would be clear of cars in a few months

Yep - given the amount of effort that they seem to be able to put into geo-fencing and speed restricting the few e-scooters that are available for hire plus the already existing speed limiters / motor cut out on e-bikes at 15mph, it's quite astonishing that cars are essentially a free-for-all.

The tech is there though to stop banned drivers, drink drivers, uninsured drivers, speeding etc at a stroke but any mention of some sort of control on driving results in complete collective meltdown.

My vans got a speed limiter built in due to aerodynamics of a brick and sod all power. TBH even if they're mandatory the type that gun it at silly speeds where they can will just get them mapped out.

those scooters are unregulated and pretty dangerous – to say nothing of being illegal in the UK

A sweeping generalisation that is wrong......they are legal and apparently safe so long as your renting them from and appointed agent.....

You can override the system by pressing hard on the accelerator...

Not really a limiter then. More of a guide..

those scooters are unregulated and pretty dangerous – to say nothing of being illegal in the UK

Cause and effect there, plus a little bit of them being below critical mass.

Currently as they are illegal they are ridden around by teenagers who don’t give a stuff, knowing that the worst that can happen is it gets confiscated.

As a responsible adult with a driving licence, I can be penalised with points and possibly a driving ban! And thus I do not have one. The moment they become legal ill get one (and, I hope, ride it responsibly) replacing a car for local journeys.

Have we all lost the ability to read?

a speed limiter allows you to accelerate and decelerate as you normally would, provided you don’t go above the speed limit you set.

I've had cars with speed limiters for maybe the last 15 years. Never felt the need to switch it on.

Seems perfectly sensible to me. I only ever hit high speeds on track days which is the appropriate place for fast driving.

Edit - although reading this it limits to 112mph? Which seems a bit pointless??

Weird how everyone is kicking off about these scooters.

It's because they're almost universally ridden by ****s with the road sense of a breeze block. It's this decade's monkey bikes.

Why is this in any way bad?

A sweeping generalisation that is wrong……they are legal and apparently safe so long as your renting them from and appointed agent…..

in one or two cities only

Current cars both have one.

I don't do speeding but I really don't like the limiter. There's something about what it does to the throttle response on a rolling motorway / dual carriageway that just makes my mechanically sensitive teeth itch (not literally).

I'd rather just watch my speed and throttle control the old fashioned way.

Round town it's an unnecessary gimmick if you can drive vaguely properly, watch the road, watch your speed and don't be a ****.

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Speed limiter or speed warning?

one of our company pool cars (Yaris?) has a limiter, I didn’t realise and thought it was broken.

most BMWs and Audi’s I’ve driven recently will chime at you if you exceed a user set limit, but doesn’t actually stop you going past it.

It’s because they’re almost universally ridden by **** with the road sense of a breeze block. It’s this decade’s monkey bikes.

Since you allowed for the few that aren't ridden like that with 'almost' I have to say this is a reasonable summing up.

Although if I'm being generous/spikey there's maybe a bit of the blasted cyclists / e bikers about this viewpoint when you only notice/register the proper melters...

My car has a limiter which can be set. I tend to use it in roadwork sections on the motorway.

I am, of course, fully capable of limiting my speed myself but it’s there so I use it.

Have we all lost the ability to read?

a speed limiter allows you to accelerate and decelerate as you normally would, provided you don’t go above the speed limit you set.

The article's a bit confusing. It also goes on to say they use GPS to establish local speed limits. Either way, it can be overridden so doesn't really limit anything.

in one or two cities only

UK cities ?

One or two or thirty ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48106617

Police Interceptors will be a bit boring in the future if they do this :o(

Why is this in any way bad?

Haven’t thought it through, have you. What speed, exactly, are you going to set it at?
I’ll let you work it out for yourself.

Haven’t thought it through, have you. What speed, exactly, are you going to set it at?

Not like the technology isn't there to link it directly to GPS.........

I used to do a lot of miles up to 15 years ago. Then it seemed like the outside lane of the motorway was doing a steady 85. Whenever I drive these days (Mostly M5 and M6 between Brum and M62) it seems that very few drivers are going more than 75.
Not that there's a lot of motorway without average speed cams set at 50 or 60, which are scrupulously observed.

those scooters are unregulated and pretty dangerous – to say nothing of being illegal in the UK

They're heavily regulated in the UK: in fact (as you note) they're illegal to use on public roads except in limited trials. Banning things is a form of regulation.

It's already beginning to happen, all new Volvos (regardless of engine and power) are now electronically limited to 112 mph

It’s kind of like cruise control but different. I tend to use it in 50 zones on motorways where the speed is going up and down a lot. Set at 54 mph, and then don’t have to worry about the cameras and can concentrate on the road rather than the Speedo

The car also has a ‘warning’ speed at which an alarm will sound if you reach that speed. That is very useful for overtaking when your car can get in to triple digits very quickly

My jap import stuff had an actual limiter fitted
About 112 mph I think.

Easily fixed luckily lol

Are we all aware that in 2022 all new cars will be fitted with mandatory speed limiters?

What's the problem? Every car I've had for the last 20 years has been fitted with one as part of the cruise control system. You don't need to use it you know.

UK cities ?

One or two or thirty ?

That's what I was thinking. I have seen them in Southampton and Bournemouth. Electric scooters are a great idea but the government need to actually do something to make them legal. If ridden on the road in same way as a bike I can't see why there is a problem with them. 15mph is a reasonable speed and what any average cyclist does without really trying. The problems comes from the legal position (none) and people using them on pavements. Just as I would ride my bike along a pavement at 15mph I would ride an e scooter.

As for cars, they should all have mandatory automatic speed limiting in line with the limit on the road it is being driven. Not sure the technology is actually there yet though as not all roads speeds are mapped out on current software, any temporary changes may not work etc,.
There is simply no reason why anybody has to go above the speed limit and if everyone had the same limit it would make driving nicer (i.e. less tailgating, speeding right up behind you etc,.)

I used to do a lot of miles up to 15 years ago. Then it seemed like the outside lane of the motorway was doing a steady 85. Whenever I drive these days (Mostly M5 and M6 between Brum and M62) it seems that very few drivers are going more than 75.

Yep, me too and tbh earlier than that the speeds were higher - usually could run just below 100 (with the radar detector in the windscreen).

Takes a lot longer to get long distances now.

There is simply no reason why anybody has to go above the speed limit and if everyone had the same limit it would make driving nicer (i.e. less tailgating, speeding right up behind you etc,.)

This is borne out by the way driving up the a9 has changed since the average speed cameras. Its much more pleasant to drive

Good to see we're keeping to the old traditions here and hardly anyone has actually bothered to read the article the OP linked to 🙂

These aren't the speed limiters included in cruise control packages, where the driver sets the limit manually and the car will refuse to go over it. These are:

The speed limiter technology, called Intelligent Speed Assistant (ISA) uses GPS data and/or traffic-sign-recognition cameras to determine the maximum speed allowed in an area. The system then limits the engine’s power and the vehicle’s speed to that limit.

Seems like a reasonable idea, although I do wonder how accurate the maps used by the GPS will be - the traffic sign recognition systems should cover temporary roadworks etc., but only time will tell if it works well enough.

Yep, it's been coming for a while.  My experience of the traffic sign recognition is that it isn't as reliable as you would want but, as has been said already, you can always override it by pressing the pedal hard.  I suspect it will work very well as going over the set speed will take a conscious effort rather than just drifting up because everyone is.  Thumbs up from me

My jap import stuff had an actual limiter fitted
About 112 mph I think.

Easily fixed luckily lol

Your awesome

suspect it will work very well as going over the set speed will take a conscious effort

Hopefully combined with sterner punishments for those choosing to exceed by way of them having to make a conscious decision to go faster ...