When you compare killing animals humanely with torturing humans I have no desire to try and comprehend your point as it's bollocks.No its where you try and comprehend the point made to you instead of shooting the messenger.
Hopefully the farmer helped you understand.
good news you achieved your goal
Its idiotic to think I compared them, they are simply both oxymorons
Well if you think you can't kill an animal humanely and with respect then that's up to you. You can just say so without making up some unrelated point about torture. I disagree with you. Tough titties.
People who complain about meat being eaten yet buy lot's of fruit and vegetables from places they have no idea of what went into growing them are hypocrites and can **** right off trying to lecture me on my morals.
Well done. You win the 'insecure meat-eater of the day award'. No one is lecturing you. What you eat is your own business, and we non-meat-eaters don't really GAS.
Lol, sure.No one is lecturing you. What you eat is your own business, and we non-meat-eaters don't really GAS.
Lol, sure.
It's true I can assure you. It doesn't however mean that we should be barred from discussing the issue. The OP asked a simple question, which in many cases was responded to with ridiculous points which are very easy to counter, or righteous indignation that someone might have the temerity to question something which is seen to be normal by the vast majority.
[quote=km79 ]Well if you think you can't kill an animal humanely and with respect then that's up to you. thanks seems like the person who does it agrees as well. You cannot breed something then kill it to eat it and then argue you are being humane.As noted you can be more humane or less humane but you cannot achieve humane as you slaughter something - its oxymoronic like humane torture is.
How many times does it need to be explained to you for you to understand?You can just say so without making up some unrelated point about torture.
excellent now we are the playground level of "debate" 🙄I disagree with you. Tough titties.
Maybe you could, but you don't. Your existence, like the rest of humanity, causes animal suffering.
Only the ones that can read 😆
You can just say so without making up some unrelated point about torture.
Done correctly, killing an animal for food should normally be quick and relatively painless, and also as stress-free as possible.
Torture, on the other hand, involves inflicting pain and suffering for extended periods, while trying to avoid the death of the subject, for no other reason than to gain some sort of perverted pleasure from the suffering of the subject.
When the subject is human, the desired end result is usually to force information from the subject, or force the subject to change their political or spiritual orientation.
Torture of an animal has no other end than to cause suffering for the personal enjoyment of the torturer, possibly with a sexual element.
I see no comparison with the quick death in an abattoir of an animal for the purpose of eating it, and using what can’t be eaten for other purposes, leaving little wastage.
But perhaps I’m missing something really obvious.
Edit: CBA, not wasting my Sunday evening arguing with you.thanks seems like the person who does it agrees as well. You cannot breed something then kill it to eat it and then argue you are being humane.As noted you can be more humane or less humane but you cannot achieve humane as you slaughter something - its oxymoronic like humane torture is.
I see no comparison ....
But perhaps I’m missing something really obvious
I made no comparison.
i think this is the forth time i have explained it i am not comparing except to say humane torture and human slaughter of animals are both oxymorons. The farmer, who does it,agrees it cannot be truly humane.
You will be telling me there are humane torture chambers where they carry it out with respect does not equal saying slaughters houses are the same as torture ;i have no idea why anyone would claim/think it does.
Just another Junkyard special then. If you put more time into the point you are trying to make it would save you so much time having to explain them later.i think this is the forth time i have explained it
Aye definitely my fault folk keep misconstruing - I note you never tried to argue what i said meant what they claimed...interesting.
thanks for your input, I really value it.
You note well. It's not that interesting though. Arguing with you is like catching your toe under a door. Once experienced there is no desire to repeat it and you feel a bit stupid for letting it happen in the first place. 😆I note you never tried to argue what i said meant what they claimed...interesting.
You're welcome. Anytime!thanks for your input, I really value it.
You cannot breed something then kill it to eat it and then argue you are being humane.
Of course you can. You can argue whatever you like.
I’ve caught, killed and eaten my own fish more than once. Because I can and because it’s very tasty. It’s not practical for me to shoot my own cow, so I let someone else do it for me. I trust them to do it as decently as possible as the laws of m at production in the UK dictate. I try to buy British wherever possible.
My wife chooses not to eat meat or fish (anything with a face as she puts it) but doesn’t spout crap like in this thread.
funny enough i may steal it[kudos] but we both know why you didnt try.You note well. It's not that interesting though. Arguing with you is like catching your toe under a door. Once experienced there is no desire to repeat it and you feel a bit stupid for letting it happen in the first place.
