[Closed] So...I just asked a chap if he realised why there were zig-zags...

He should have just put his hazard lights on. Apparently this renders you invisible

[stereotype] It's weird how Audi estates come fitted with hazard lights, yet the indicators cannot be operated independently[/stereotype]

DD, if I spent my time having words with folk, for things that bug me, and there are many, I would have more scrapes than you can ever imagine.
so nowadays, I let things go, and go out of my way to avoid conflict/arguments and such.....cos life really is too short.

sorry for trolling, as you know I was just joking, and for that I apologise.

Then I know that crossing DD and its a difficult place to see peds when driving so the asshat parking really doesn't help.

More to the point, why were you towing a dog in a buggy?

@ton, I used to use this PC a fair bit, but since mini dd came along and I do a fair bit of daddy day care, I have to use it sometimes, five six times a day on walks, nearly always with a buggy and/or a dog. I can safely say, on days when I'm not at work, doing drop offs at the childminder, or looking after him all day, I will see a driver (often large-ish delivery trucks/vans) parked on the zigzags at least once, but usually multiple times. Today was a bit of a final straw moment. Mind you, I tried to engage with the guy politely, not aggressively. I understand I've gone a bit "won't somebody think of the children" about it, but I suppose wheeling a buggy about focuses the mind somewhat onto how much of our space and freedom as pedestrians we've ceded to the car.

To the left of the van below, is the PO. Look how close he is to the PC (legal and safe parking may have required him to walk for perhaps a minute or so). When you're using it all the time during the day, this stuff gets a bit grating.

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More to the point, why were you towing a dog in a buggy?

Didn't you read earlier in the week? She was savaged and can hardly walk. You spanner.

I want to get some of these printed to satisfy my passive aggressive tendencies:

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Sos.
I've never been to Bristol.

Thought it might have been a bylaw, like having to carry dogs on the escalators on the Underground train set.

It's whole new world south of Birmingham, isn't it?

Call the rozzers - they sent out the pretend police to stand outside my kids' school when the IPLAC brigade started using the zig zags outside as their valet parking spot. Surprisingly effective, helped by one particular moron who parked on the zig zags, next to the PC and school gate tight in front of them! He really was that stupid. Usual stereotypes apply, fat, would have to walk more than 10 seconds to legally park etc

Although these knuckle scrapers have (largely) stopped doing it since the 5-0 turned up, they now take turns to park in the driveway of a house opposite the school - yet to witness a householder - fat arse confrontation as yet but it has to happen...

Cars seem to turn people into psychopaths - aggressive bullies who have no care for anyone else's needs...

The sooner self-driving cars come along the better, driving is encouraging so much unhealthy behaviour it's astonishing.

Just for perspective, c3500 people died in The Troubles from 1960s-1998 but 1754 died on UK roads in just one year in 2012, and we continue to treat driving as some kind of human right which must be defended at all costs...

deadlydarcy - Member
Just out of interest (and this @ton too if you want to engage instead of trolling my thread), and not trying to argue, are you saying you wouldn't bother saying anything?

why is it trolling?

I just have a different opinion

I would choose to say nothing

Had to do a bit of driving in last nights rush hour, what a load of selfish inconsiderate nobbers, I [i]hate[/i] driving at busy times.

Utterly oblivious to the numerous people trying to tell them their boot is open.

where they endangering anyone btw? it's just people to tend to point out really stupid stuff, when I got knocked off my bike and had to push it to the train station, bike mangled and blood all over my face the amount of people who said "you/your bike look ****ed" got kind of annoying after a while. Ford prefect may have [url= http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Chapter_5 ]had a point[/url].

why is it trolling?

I wasn't saying you were.

Fair enough, you'd say nothing. Thanks for your input. 🙂

Cars seem to turn people into psychopaths - aggressive bullies who have no care for anyone else's needs...

The sooner self-driving cars come along the better, driving is encouraging so much unhealthy behaviour it's astonishing.

Just for perspective, c3500 people died in The Troubles from 1960s-1998 but 1754 died on UK roads in just one year in 2012, and we continue to treat driving as some kind of human right which must be defended at all costs...

How many years were there in 2012? 😀

I like the idea of a foot health practitioner with attached plastering services, though. One'll burn off your verucas and then the other will give it a nice skim over.

deadlydarcy - Member
why is it trolling?
I wasn't saying you were.

Fair enough, you'd say nothing. Thanks for your input.

Ok, if you want a more detailed response, after spending time living next to meddlers who would take photos of me working on my bike and car on (my side) of the shared driveway (maintenance, not full on engine rebuilds or bodywork etc), and tell me they were going to the council/report me to the authorities, I find I have used up my patience of people telling me their opinions about what I am doing

I also spent some time in Germany where it seems the norm for complete strangers telling you not to do this or that

I'm not saying you were wrong, just that it wouldn't bother me enough to say something

Ok, if you want a more detailed response, after spending time living next to meddlers who would take photos of me working on my bike and car on (my side) of the shared driveway (maintenance, not full on engine rebuilds or bodywork etc), and tell me they were going to the council/report me to the authorities, I find I have used up my patience of people telling me their opinions about what I am doing

Apples and oranges. You disliking people interfering when you were going about your lawful business - fair enough. Not the same thing as people parking illegally and making life less pleasant and more dangerous for everyone else.

tell me they were going to the council/report me to the authorities

Well in a similar incident I am renovating my house

I had picked up some solid wood flooring, which was pretty heavy, and was dropping it off at the new house

There were no parking spaces on the road outside. At the end of the row of houses, the end house has a bit of a driveway which had his car parked on it, and a dirt road next to that, which needs access for the people that live there

There is a single white line which runs for about 3 car lengths across the entrance for this guys drive and the dirt road

I put the van there (I know, the shame 🙄 ) while I unloaded about 10 heavy boxes of flooring

As soon as I had started carrying the first box to the house, I saw the curtains twitching and he was out.

'You can't park there'
'I know, I'm not parked, I just need to unload a bit of flooring and then I'll move the van'
'I need it clear to get my car out'
'Oh sorry, I didn't know you were going out, just let me put this down and I'll move it'
'I'm not going out'
'Sorry?'
'I'm not going out, but if I was I want to be able to go when I please'
'You can do. I'm here, just as me and I'll move the van'
'You're not allowed to park there'
'I'm not parked. I'm here, I have the keys, if you want to get your car out ask me and I can move it'

Etc

Just gets my back up when people ruin your day for something that isn't directly affecting them. I could see he the Tv was on in his front room, he just fancied giving somebody some shit. Yes probably by law I could be moved on by the police, but he was, in my eyes, just making my life difficult

Again, I'm not saying DD was doing anything wrong, I'm giving my reasons why I would choose not to say anything

Just echoing what ransos and D0NK have said. I sympathise with you having experienced arseholes interfering with you going about your own business. That is a pain in the arse.

I wasn't trying to make something that isn't my business mine this morning. It was my business. And I repeat for page 2, I didn't have some massive aggressive go at the guy, just tried asking him why he was parking there. He just waltzed off after calling me a name, which I didn't catch and I wasn't going to pursue it any further, believe me. But he just might think twice about doing it again, you never know.

He was just being an arsehole. Like all the people who parked on the zigzags at MY pedestrian crossing ( 👿 yes it's there JUST for me). You should have told him. 🙂

i guess that's just part of the society we live in - being able to pick and choose which bits of 'the rules' we observe, weighing up the risk that we get caught for it, and punished, and the gains to be made.
so, was this during the school holidays? 😉

being able to pick and choose which bits of 'the rules' we observe, weighing up the risk that we get caught for it, and punished, and the gains to be made.

At no point do you mention weighing up the risk of our actions to anyone else with whom we'd share the space.

was this during the school holidays?

No, it was this morning. Half term was last week around here.

deadlydarcy - Member
agreed
Just out of interest (and this @ton too if you want to engage instead of trolling my thread), and not trying to argue, are you saying you wouldn't bother saying anything?

I think DD is making a good point which not only can I empathise with, was discussed on a popular radio talk show earlier this week.

The point being, if we wandered around ignoring such transgressions, does it not lead to a general apathy that essentially means those that choose to park in dangerous places, kick their ball against the side of my house, speed in a school dropoff area, swear in front of my kids etc will get away with, not respect the reasoning behind it and moderate thier behaviour, and effectively, it gets worse.

Or are we all too afraid of get shouted at / a pasting / stabbed that we'd really not bother and what reflection is that of society?

Last time I has cause to speak, I has parked in a Parents bay in Sainsbury's - those wide one that allow you to open your doors to full with and slot the kids in. So, why did the lady next to me not only park in the bay with NO kids onboard (she has kiddie chairs though m ight I tell you) BUT park so close that I couldn't get Miss KJ02 in her seat? When challenage with a polite "excuse me, but you do (of course you do dear, you have child seats)realise you've deliberatly parked in a bad designed to help people WITH childeren in the car don't you, when we both know you've done it to be closer to the door" I was berated with a angry retorted punctuated with F's in front of 1yo Miss KJ02.

Having said that, I'm busy floucing from forums, facebook etc as I'd like to concentrate on my own life thanks very much. What a juxtaposition....

When challenage with a polite "excuse me, but you do (of course you do dear, you have child seats)realise you've deliberatly parked in a bad designed to help people WITH childeren in the car don't you, when we both know you've done it to be closer to the door" I was berated with a angry retorted punctuated with F's in front of 1yo Miss KJ02.

I go for a passive/ aggressive and slightly creepy note on the windscreen "where is your child?".

Try borrowing a wheelchair and seeing how far you get before you get blocked in by parked cars.
It's awful.
We see people who've been stuck in all day, unable to get to the shops, the quacks etc.
They often don't complain because they feel too vulnerable.

Good on you for doing something.

And it's getting worse as people seem to be getting increasingly selfish.
I do hate people sometimes.

I do hate people sometimes.

I love you though Rusty.

And I blame Clarkson.

And it's getting worse as people seem to be getting increasingly selfish.

Symptomatic of people not challenging them not to be perhaps?

Could be, but I just think it's due to the way we live now.
Why care about your neighbours if you never see them?

There was a german bloke who used to walk over cars that were parked on the pavement. It's natural extension of the climbing over an obstruction that someone has left on a footpath principle.

Probably a fair point but the reaction shows why none of us bother much as all you get is threats , abusing and swearing.

I find I have used up my patience of people telling me their opinions about what I am doing

Perhaps it IS you 😉

Yes probably by law I could be moved on by the police

To be honest, I'm sorely tempted to send an 'aggrieved' text to

Rebecca Clark BSC Dip CFHP on 07590 683182 to register my disapproval of the way her mobile advertising vehicle is parked.

It'd be such a shame if her afternoon was a little disrupted by a constant stream of messages...

jools182's story reminds me of something my mate said the other week, he'd been doing house up had a shed load of rubble to get rid of, bagged up heaved it out back, too much for one trip to the tip in his motor so took 1 load came back to find someone had moved the rest all the way around the block and put it in his front yard. Someone either a bit keen on the "you're not leaving that there are you" and taking matters into their won hands or just couldn't take the confrontation of actually verbalising it. not sure.

There was a german bloke who used to walk over cars that were parked on the pavement.

@The Sanity Assassin, I thought the advertising of a foot health practitioner on the back of a plasterer's van a bit incongruous, did you? 🙂

Cars seem to turn people into psychopaths - aggressive bullies who have no care for anyone else's needs...

On the contrary, I think some people are ****s but they manage to hide that in normal life and being in a car allows them to let it out. Genuinely decent people don't turn into psychopaths when in a car. The worrying thing is just how many people are ****s but manage to hide it most of the time.

I choose to say on this thread that I choose to say nothing in the OP's earlier situation.

That is all, as you were.

Had a funny one this morning outside our (recently moved into) house. My business partner had come to collect me to go to a business meeting and , as my wife was about to take our kids to school, he left his car across from our house and unfortunately this blocked someone's drive - however, there was no car in the drive.

Two minutes later (as I was just putting my coat on) I found my neighbour literally running around the street screaming at him that she was late, couldn't he was f&^%*&g blocking her drive, that he had f%$£*&g made her late etc (which I couldn't get to grips with - she wasn't *in* the drive, she had driven back to her house after dropping her kid off at school so there was no way it could have made her late (unless she was having a meeting in her house that meant her car had to be in her drive).

As I came around the corner I apologised too (he was already apologising) but she just carried on with her tirade, swearing like a navvy, running around in a panic.

😯

So where did she put her car, and why didn't your partner put his car there?

She put it on the other side of the road and I don't know, other than I assume he thought he was only going to be a minute whilst I put my coat on and, as there was no car *in* the drive to block in that it wouldn't actually be a problem.

Clearly it was.

Knew I wouldn't be let down. 😀

Couple of minutes ago...
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Last time I has cause to speak, I has parked in a Parents bay in Sainsbury's - those wide one that allow you to open your doors to full with and slot the kids in. So, why did the lady next to me not only park in the bay with NO kids onboard (she has kiddie chairs though m ight I tell you) BUT park so close that I couldn't get Miss KJ02 in her seat?

That's one of those moments when, just accidently, I might open my car door just a little too fast and maybe, just maybe, catch the door of the car next to me. I do feel ever so bad about it, but accidents do happen 🙁

As I came around the corner I apologised too (he was already apologising) but she just carried on with her tirade, swearing like a navvy, running around in a panic.

whilst her reaction is OTT it is not easy to predict when a neighbour will return. Unless I know them well [ and they will recognise the car] I would not park across a dropped kerb that prevents access to a drive as I also consider other people needs when I park not just mine....however brief I may think I am being.

The fact you dont get whey she was peeved is as worrying as her over reaction tbh

Right. I place a bet that when I go to collect a mini_oab from BB's tonight I can get a picture of a couple of cars parked on double yellows, on a ROUNDABOUT... Seems in Dunblane, you can park anywhere.

It's possible to buy s/a paper, with permanent adhesive on the back. I feel an overwhelming temptation sometimes to find a photo of female genitalia, print some off on A5 sheets, then stick one right in the driver's field of vision on the windscreen, whenever I see these dimwits parking in such an inconsiderate manner. 👿