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2k votes in it last time - pretty marginal.

Seen very little political activity though. Not many signs.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:11 am
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My seat used to be solid labour but went to SNP at the last GE. Certainly a target seat for labour

SNP candidate is completely useless, a liar and thoroughly unpleasant. Last time Labour put up a candidate who was even worse - lesley hinds the lying ex leader of the council. I couldn't vote for her. This time labour are putting up a local bloke but still a councillor who I would like to vote for but he won't answer my emails.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:15 am
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1200 votes.

The People's Republic of Brighton and Hove...

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Posted : 22/05/2017 11:20 am
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My seat was Labour for a while (although has been Tory in the dim and distant) but is currently SNP. It looks like it might well be a Tory/SNP marginal this time out.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:20 am
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I always find my area hard to read. It is historically Labour, but judging by signs, I would have thought that Plaid Cymru or the Lib Dems were stronger. I guess in the end that there just isn't enough support for a single one of the two 'progressive' alternatives to dislodge Labour.

EDIT: Just looked at the numbers, and it turns out that appearances can be deceiving. Labour has a pretty solid lock on the constituency. It's not even close to marginal.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:21 am
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About 5k in it last time with greens finishing second. Hopefully they have a chance this time with more people realising they are a serious option as people seem to like to back winners. At least there is no chance of a Tory.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:22 am
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Supposedly mine is a Tory target seat- they keep throwing out mad predictions of gains in Scotland. But they need to more than double their vote so, good luck with that. We look pretty safe SNP now after years of being a 3-way battle.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:24 am
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True blue here. It really does make you wonder what the point of voting is when you know it will make eff all difference to the outcome.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:27 am
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Safe tory seat, held by the Scouse one who likes reality TV and lives in the Cotswolds (a fair journey from here!).


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:28 am
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Projected as a close run between SNP and Conservative here, and the conservatives actually gained a councilor in the locals so there is obviously the support.

Strange constituency, a mix of two or three ex-mining-now-commuting villages, a major airport, then some very posh suburbs.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:29 am
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Our constituency has consistently returned a Labour MP to parliament with a circa 35% to 40% majority, about 10 - 15000 votes since the 1950's until the the last general election when the SNP knocked them into second place by 10,000-odd votes.

I would expect the SNP to retain the seat for the forseeable future.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:30 am
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Labour held it last time, with 3158 (7.7%) majority. Ukip got 5392 (13.1%) votes last time, so should fall to Tory this time. Was Tory last time there was a large Tory majority. [url= http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Darlington ]Electoral Calculus are predicting a 1% Tory majority[/url].


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:32 am
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Yup, Burnley.

Labour v Lib Dem straight fight.
Very different but equally good candidates, both local and both very well thought of.

Given the strength of the leave vote, I'd say we'll stay Labour this time, but it'll be tight.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:34 am
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Just checked the electoral calculus prediction and they're showing 48% likelyhood of a Tory win in my seat, and 46% likelyhood for the SNP who currently hold it (by about 8000 votes from Labour). If that happens it'd have to be down to a massive swing directly from Labour to the Tories.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:37 am
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Solid Tory here in Wessex: if only there were an agreed protest vote an alternative might just win.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:37 am
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Pretty marginal here, Geoffrey Clinton-Brown is going to have to work hard if he wants to retain his seat, what with Electoral Calculus giving him a slim 98% chance of doing so... 🙄


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:40 am
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Where I live in England (I have homes in Edinburgh and the London/Essex border but vote in Scotland) it looks like the seat is a Labour/Tory marginal. It's Labour currently, with a 1.2% majority, but the polls are predicting it'll go Tory with a 6% majority.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:40 am
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Was alway Lib Dem here until the dark day last year when Conservatives got in by huge margin. You tell our MP comes from a big land owning family as the amount of billboards in fields around here far outweighs any other candidate.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:41 am
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100% conservative hold 🙁


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:43 am
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electoral calculus is complete nonsense for my seat. Shows it as a SNP tory marginal with a likely tory win.

complete nonsense.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:44 am
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Safe labour here in Stockport - veteran labour incumbent being in post for 25 years and is generally well regarded AFAICT. Seconded the motion of no-confidence in Jeremy last year, which will probably entrench her support amongst the silent and sane majority of labour voters.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:44 am
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Hahahahaha no.

Solid Tory seat and minimal chance of a change. Cambridge might swing though, possibly going back to the previous LibDem if he can persuade people enough


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:46 am
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mine was a margin of 213 votes in 2005 LAB vs CON.
UKIP votes screw up the numbers since then though, so the numbers don't look marginal any more. Most of their support must have come from LAB and not CON.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:47 am
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electoral calculus is complete nonsense for my seat. Shows it as a SNP tory marginal with a likely tory win.

complete nonsense.

Are you Edinburgh South West?


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:48 am
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600 seats last time, historically labour, but went Tory in 2010 as the incumbent was "slightly tarred with excessive expenses payments". The current MP is a co-author of the recent APPCG report 'Cycling and the Justice System'.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:49 am
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10k tory majority,

ill vote anyway

sigh


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:49 am
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Tory since it became a seat in the 1850's and over 70% of the vote.... I'm finding it hard to summon up the energy to vote.... pointless 🙁


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:52 am
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Yes, previously a bulletproof LD seat, but massive swing to SNP in 2015. Sick and tired of leaflets through the door to be honest.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 11:59 am
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I'm finding it hard to summon up the energy to vote.... pointless

You have to though, if only to show that even though we have a FPTP system, that May's mandate is not reflective of the actual proportion of vote.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:01 pm
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odd Tory / SNP seat here, has flipped between two since I was a lad (incl. Winnie Ewing.) Tory target apparently, will see how that pans out, lots of farming, some light industry, fishing, and a couple of MoD bases to skew things from Brexit / No..


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:02 pm
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That electoral calculus thing looks wrong for my constituency.
was ca. 49% CON win in the Thatcher-Major era, and 49% LAB win in the Blair era, then a decimation of the LAB vote in 2010.
Now they predict 57% CON hold, which is clearly nonsense. That's quite some majority for a seat that had ony 213 votes in it, and several recounts. I reckon too much of the recent UKIP support has been re-allocated to CON, and not LAB.
If 57% really is Tory support, then get ready for a CON landslide that will top Blair's majority.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:03 pm
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epicsteve - edinburgh north and leith

for the tories to take it it would need their vote to triple even if the tories take all the labour votes its still not enough.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:03 pm
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Been labour for a long time, went conservative last time by 27 votes, so pretty marginal I think! lots of blue bill boards up, some already defaced 😆


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:06 pm
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Are you Edinburgh South West?

Hah, I just had a look at that on Electoral Calculus, wonder what they've been drinking. The numbers only add up if essentially every swing vote from every party goes Tory, including the Greens and SNP.

I've had a lot of time for electoral calculus but if this is the quality of forecast for this year it asks some questions... TJ's seat is similar, it's almost like they've started from "have the Tories win by a couple of percent" and then worked backwards.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:06 pm
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17k / 35% Tory majority here. That there website is predicting a 51% majority this time round. Prior to 2010 it was a solid LibDem seat, the then MP retired, he was well thought of locally, and it's been Tory since.

There is a local councillor / mayor who is running as an Independent candidate, he's very well though of within the city so things may change. That website isn't taking that in to account.

Here's hoping.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:07 pm
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16k Tory majority last time around. I'll still be voting though.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:14 pm
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Safe(ish) Labour in Bury South. In neighbouring Bury North the Tories only won by 331 votes though.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:15 pm
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Labour beat the conservatives here last time by less than 2000 votes I think. Lib dems seem to be getting a growing level of support which I can only imagine will split the Labour vote and hand it all over to the Tories.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:16 pm
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Small tory majority here in South Gloucestershire but there is a good chance that Jack Lopresti will get kicked out as a result of education cuts. Every parent pretty angry at reduced curriculum, 4.5 day week and 45 pupils per class from September.


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:17 pm
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Massively safe Tory seat here, and a lot of UKIP voters last time around which I should think will switch to Con.

Electoralcalculus.co.uk has us at 97% chance Tory. 🙁


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:18 pm
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Mine is showing Tory win... Same Labour MP for 30 years, but only 3000 vote margin last time round (smallest ever) and there were 6000 ukip voters last time

Lots of labour signs around though so still hopeful


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:24 pm
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are those numbers U-turn corrected 😉


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:34 pm
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For everyone saying "majority is X, no point in voting"- votes have momentum and non-votes have inertia, it's more important than it looks.

When I first voted my seat was safe Tory, and had been Tory every year since it was created. But vote by vote it narrowed and people got tactical and pushed and pushed and eventually, it wasn't a wasted vote- he got kicked out and Labour got in. It was the no-point-in-votings that kept him in power and the move away from that, that got him out. The tipping point wasn't the day he got voted out, it was the day it started to look possible.

But that wasn't the end of it- we still had to work tactically for a couple of elections to keep it safe, it was a fight. But in 2015, for the first time ever in my life, I got to vote for who I actually wanted to not who I had to. And a hell of a lot of other people realised at about the same time that a vote for the SNP wasn't going to be wasted, and it wasn't going to let the Tories in either, and we had a [i]30% swing[/i].

If we'd sat around in the 90s going "Oh well that Tory prick'll get in so I might as well not bother" the gap would have never closed. Nobody would have ever thought "well this time".

Obviously every seat is different, and you might not consider this the good result that I do. But things change a little at a time and even if your vote's "wasted" this year it could add up in 2022 or 2027- what matters is that someone down the line doesn't think "no point voting" Everyone has their own line where they think it's worthwhile and your vote could push someone else into voting, and so on.

Why do you think so much effort's been invested in making this election look like a foregone conclusion?


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:46 pm
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Hah, I just had a look at that on Electoral Calculus, wonder what they've been drinking. The numbers only add up if essentially every swing vote from every party goes Tory, including the Greens and SNP.

We are meant to be a safe seat, but the same was true last time.

Looking at the voting patterns, there is likely to be a big swing to the Conservatives but whether it will be big enough...

SNP seem to be treating it as a safe seat, Tories are treating it as a target seat. That's dangerous for the SNP. So it may well happen, but I'm not putting money on it. My vote will be counted though!


 
Posted : 22/05/2017 12:46 pm
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10k tory majority,

ill vote anyway

Close to mine, 11K tory majority (60%) with second (15%) going to UKIP in 2015!

And still people put up Tory signs, I think I could guess your persuasion. I do my bit by punching them as I ride by don't you worry...

I will still be voting too.


 
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