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ahhh, I understand now - you have 19s currently....
Look at the tyres to see if they're marked up as runflats/RFT. My 3 series is a lot nicer with regular tyres.
Low profile to the extent we have on road cars is styling. Race/track cars don't go as low profile, there is a sweet spot and it's not 30!
Stupid tyres are a vanity thing.
Also blame Audi for a stiff ride is good handling bollocks that they've successfully peddled
Yep funnily my track car that 40/45 profile tyres and my "sports" car has 30 section tyres. Tis all fashion!
Well I just went for a drive on the A40 between Fishguard and Haverfordwest on my own, roof bars off and I have to say it's growing on me a bit.
1. The drive is remarkably good. Even the firm ride isn't so bad now I've got the tyres at the right pressures. Its firm but supple. It doesn't make you want to thrash it like a sports car but it just feels perfectly solid and secure all the time.
2. The stereo is great (the earlier problem seemed to be the Amazon music app rather than the car)
3. The aircon is also pretty good now I found the recirc button.
4. I like the column mounted gear shifter.
However still a few observations and questions.
1. I overtook someone and despite the gearbox reset thing it still didn't feel that quick.
2. Gearbox still jerky.
3. How do you enter a destination from the map on the satnav? I can put a point into my 'previous destinations' list then I have to back out and go into that list to retrieve it to navigate to it. Eh?
Ref dislike #1. Its not far off a 2 tonne car with the smaller 4 cylinder engine. It wont be a rocketship (You are pushing the throttle past the 'click' of the kickdown switch to overtake, arent you?)
HEADLINE!
New car feels different to old car shocker!
🙂
Oh and, based off my experience with my similar car, then yes I think you'll find its a grower, and over time you might appreciate the subtle qualities and things it does well. Column shifter is great as you say and allows for a nice useful centre console.
(Family camping trip next week, where mine always makes me smile, still drives well fully loaded up, loads of storage, still rides correctly due to the self levelling, it as a ~600 mile range due to the long range tank being fitted, its got a good steror, very good HVAC etc etc....).
Apparently I can only return the car in the 30 days if there’s something wrong with it.
Did you start this thread to tell us about your fully working new car?
It's been a while since I owned an S212 and it depends on whether you own a APS50 or comand Sat Nav but I remember it wasn't difficult to load a destination or previous destination. I presume - as a male - you havent got/read the manual yet? The eariler APS50 didnt load full postcodes which was a pain but yours should load a full postcode. Also have you tried the voice commands instead?
Its not far off a 2 tonne car with the smaller 4 cylinder engine. It wont be a rocketship
It says on the internet that 0-60 is 7.2s compared to my old car at 9.8 it should feel loads quicker, shouldn't it? I booted it past a 50mph car and was doing about 70 by the time I pulled back in. Would have expected similar from my old car.
Re the manual, I do for car stuff but the satnav manuals are so appallingly slow to read I haven't had time yet. I tried voice to call my wife when my phone had somehow been disconnected. Rather than saying "oh your phone's disconnected" it gave me a list of local POIs that sound vaguely like "Call Mrs Grips". FFS
It’s not going to be breathtakingly fast in a car weighing approaching 2 tonnes.
I’ve got an XF Sportbrake that weighs 1.7 tonnes with a 250ps 2 litre petrol lump with an 8 speed gearbox. It’s quick but not mind bogglingly so. The 250cdi has less power than the XF but a chunk more torque.
Think the 0-60 times are 6.8 vs about 8 seconds for yours - but the mid range pull of that diesel should be better I’d have thought - particularly from low revs.
I tried voice to call my wife
Do any voice activation in any car work ever?
How do you enter a destination from the map on the satnav?
Count yourself lucky, I drove a Peugeot around for a few days a couple of years back and the Satnav would only except Street names, didn't recognise postcodes at all!
1. I overtook someone and despite the gearbox reset thing it still didn’t feel that quick.
2. Gearbox still jerky.
I can't speak for Mercs but after a reset the gearbox adaptation on a BMW takes a couple of hundred miles to settle in.
3. The aircon is also pretty good now I found the recirc button.
> -- The pollen filter might not have been changed (almost certain)
oh and on a work colleagues s/h mercs over the years the main dealers never changed the Air or pollen filters unless they were quick/easy to access.
Clogged air filters might be a source of limited performance.
I think they are inside the top engine cover and need about 25 screws to undo,
there might be 2 paper filters.
You could probably do these on your vacation if there is a motor factor nearby.
2. Gearbox still jerky.
> --- just not right.
AMG CLS: Another Mol Grips Cartastrophic Loss Story?
😅😅😅😅 nice acronym
0 to 60 isn't really relevant its 30 to 80 where it's at!
On my C-wagen with the 7G-Tronic+ it depends on what mode setting you use. I mostly just drive in C or E for long distance motorway driving on cruise, but for overtaking I'll move into S+ or i* as it doesn't need to decide to change down several gears.
If you've got COMAND then you should be able to choose address or post code in Navi.
I also changed from Hankook to Cross Climate+, the tyres have lasted twice as long to date with plenty of life left, and they're much more reassuring in rain and in winter.
But being a Merc, main dealer servicing is not cheap, I'm weighing up the advantage of having Merc European rescue against cheaper bills, I suspect that on it's next service I'll go for the cheaper bill.
Guessing it’s not Ulez compliant either ?
How do you enter a destination from the map on the satnav?
Do people actually use their cars Sat nav? Aren’t they all just varying degrees of shite?
Surely you’re better off just sticking your phone on the dash on one of those mounts that cost a fiver from any garage and loading Google maps?
I only have eco, sport and manual gearbox modes.
Surely you’re better off just sticking your phone on the dash on one of those mounts that cost a fiver from any garage and loading Google maps?
Not usually.
- They fall off occasionally
- If you don't want a flat battery you need to either wire in a plug or trail wires all over the dash
- Music doesn't get muted when it pipes up
- Phone is in a more distracting line of sight
- Built in sat navs have a simplified display by the dials and a full map in the centre
- Built ins also are designed to be operated whilst driving so you (in theory, practice isn't always like this, looking at you Hyundai) don't need to stab at a touch screen whilst trying to keep your eyes on the road
I've done both for ages, I definitely prefer built-in. That said:
- it's not worth the £1500 optional extra really, back in the day when it wasn't standard
- Google maps is good and updates are free
Built ins also are designed to be operated whilst driving
I think I know why you can't program the destination in...try it stopped.
Act in haste, repent at leisure...
Do people actually use their cars Sat nav?
Yup. The one in my S213 Merc is genuinely good. Responsive, live traffic info powered by TomTom, displayed on a 12” screen and HUD. Option to use Apple CarPlay for Waze or Other alternatives.
Far better than a mobile in a cradle.
Sat nav in the wifes kia is excellent.
I’ve done both for ages, I definitely prefer built-in. That said:
– it’s not worth the £1500 optional extra really, back in the day when it wasn’t standard
– Google maps is good and updates are free
I prefer the built in screen but I have CarPlay and I like the simplicity of the Apple Maps satnav so works perfectly for me.
Because this forum has always been great when people are struggling I'm willing to take one on the chin and help out Molgrips with a once in a lifetime offer.
Basically I'll do you a straight swop for your unsuitable, unlovable, bought on the spur of the moment Mercedes for the entire RNP fleet of vehicles!
This includes;
2007 Transit van with towbar. Awesome towing ability with free caravan entry to Appleby Horse Fair for the annual staycation. With some myopic eyesight it could be become an Instagram shitting-in-a-layby vanlife camper.
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Also includes a 2004 Golf Tdi. One careful owner then lots who didn't give a **** about it. Our dog likes it though. Includes enough dog hair to make a life size replica of Bert or knit some underpants with.
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Lastly, also includes a 2004 Volvo V70 in as new/timewarp/barnfind condition. Cavernous boot for hotdog munching trips to Ikea, dogging orgies and transporting bikes. Wipe clean leather seats for those inevitable hotdogs spills.
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All three cars are from an era when they could be fixed with large percussive tools and a range of expletives. You are almost certainly guaranteed too have at least one working the day before a major family holiday.
When you are next coaxing a teenager into your car to set the satnav or crashing through potholes with your drug dealing wheelz have a think and let me know.
^ Bargain of the century ^
Accept quickly before RNP comes to his senses !!
What a solution...
Regarding the Sat Nav I had a 2015 Seat bought at a year old, the post code sat Nav had never been used. Foreign cars especially German cars in Europe don’t use Post Codes for their navigation. I thought there was no Post Code option. Mrs Inbred found the option, you need to click on the town/city option then a post code option pops onto the screen.
Get the autobox serviced, find a good transmission specialist that has a diffusion gearbox oil system. There is a popular misconception that these boxes are sealed for life and don’t need servicing, they do and should. Lastly get the filters and fluids changed and treat it to a few tanks of V power fuel. By that time you’ll have got used to it and hopefully have more trust in it.
RNP I'll take all those plus ten grand.
Well I'm areally getting used to it. I think the issues with the gearbox were down to the mode. I'd assumed S was sport mode and I didn't want to go down that route, but apparently it means 'standard' and having given it a brief try it feels more like what I'd expect. More pleasing to drive for sure. Engine smoothness also seems to be improving with the driving we're doing, perhaps it's getting a good clean out and I've added some engine cleaner. The previous average MPG was at 28 so either the last owner was ragging it or trundling round down. Suspect the latter.
There are 18 and 17 inch wheel options listed in the book as well as 19. If I get 17s the tyres are loads cheaper and you can get more energy efficient options. In 18 and 19 they are only performance options.
Loads of 17 inch options on eBay but finding the right parameters is tricky, and I'm conscious it's a downgrade in most people's eyes so might affect resale value.
I can go from 285/30R19 rear and 255/35R19 front to 285/35R18 rear and 255/40R18, or I can go to 245/45R17 on both. Hmm.
Then keep both sets, put cross climates on, call them winter wheels and the resale is improved
RNP I’ll take all those plus ten grand.
You do realise I'm doing you a favour here????🤷🏼♂️
I think S is Snow mode not Sport! Starts in 2nd and changes early.
No, it does that in E mode which is eco. It doesn't rev its nuts off in S mode, it just drives pretty reasonably and smoothly like I would. But in Eco mode it keeps the revs even lower, starts in 2nd and doesn't like changing down, which is a bit annoying on hilly roads.
But in Eco mode it keeps the revs even lower, starts in 2nd and doesn’t like changing down, which is a bit annoying on hilly roads
That was always the issue with the old auto boxes. They'd change up rapidly, refuse to change down unless kicking down and then always be off the turbo in TD cars. That's before the manual changing we have now. I didn't buy a TD auto for ~20 years after a particularly unpleasant trip to the Alps due to this.
Good luck with the motah. Looking forward to the obvious dissasembly/Repair Shop episodes avec Moly 👍
gearbox oil is due something like 80k on the 7G+
make sure it has been done, its critical unless you want a very large bill later
check the digital service history on the mymercedes website
I find E mode fine, and a world away from old autos, but then I might have more power and torque.
How come there's nowhere to put your sunglasses in this thing? Sort it out Mercedes.
check the digital service history on the mymercedes website
Can I do this myself? Don't I need some kind of code for this? Can I get said code?
Do people actually use their cars Sat nav? Aren’t they all just varying degrees of shite?
The one in the Mini I just bought is OK. It'll search (like Google) anything really and have a stab at finding it for you, instant traffic updates, re-routes all that stuff. and it's built in, so no messing about with cradles and power leads.
Can I do this myself? Don’t I need some kind of code for this? Can I get said code?
yep
I think I just went on the site https://me.secure.mercedes-benz.com/
I can't remember what I did exactly to register.
You have to poke around the terrible website a bit, but you are looking for "digital service booklet" or "digital service report" and you can download PDFs showing every interaction with Mercedes dealers and specialists that use the system.
How come there’s nowhere to put your sunglasses in this thing? Sort it out Mercedes.
Should be a hinged pocket in the housing where the rear view mirror is.
Should be a hinged pocket in the housing where the rear view mirror is.
First place I looked, but no. Just a load of buttons for turning off various alarm related functions.