@matty Certainly a poor dress choice, really glaringly terrible outfit. At least as blokes the biggest mistake we can make is a bad tie / shirt combo and this was black tie so hard to go wrong for a bloke
@dissonance see Andrew Marr show for Gove and Johnson's statements during the campaign, Osbourne and Cameron for Remain. Farage wasn’t part of the official Leave campaign, I didn’t pay much attention to what he said nor Leave.eu
when you are the subject of ridicule on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue then it's time to go.
Now the contents of Gove and Johnson’s letter has been made public, it’s clear to see that any PM with the slightest shred of authority would have sacked the pair of the arrogant, self-serving ****s for their sheer bloody affrontery
Apparently Davis is on the verge of resigning over it, and her paralysis and abject failure to do precisely that
Surely that’s then the end of her, and this sorry shambles of a government
Apparently Davis is on the verge of resigning over it, and her paralysis and abject failure to do precisely that
It's not just May that the Brexiters constantly briefing against her are undermining, Davis' credibility has been tarnished, the series of unforced errors & being outmanoeuvred by Brussels at every turn means they are all worried about failure to deliver the fantasy Brexit they promised damaging their careers.
Rumours of Davis ready to quit have been emerging lately, he's just gonna bail out as soon as he possibly can I reckon
If he goes, will May just carry on regardless or will she escape too?
Davis must be desperate for an alternative 'reason' to head for the hills rather than trying to resolve the cosmic joke that is the UK's negotiating position.
I think the penny has finally dropped that the NI question in particular is a Catch-22 which cannot be reconciled in the current political climate.
The death throes of any government are never pretty to watch.
If he goes, will May just carry on regardless or will she escape too?
And when will she sack "no unemployment" Hammond??
Everyone is looking at the brexit loons but it’s Hammond who is the real danger for May I think. If she sacks him, or even worse he resigns like Geoffrey Howe, he could call out the brexit shambles for what it is, and take a large group of the non-lunatics with him. The whole thing could collapse very quickly, and I still think that if the only option to stop a no deal brexit is to bring down the govt then they’ll be very tempted.
its just a mess she is an incredibly weak PM with no authority moral or political
Those two are contemptible
you cannot write that to your boss - and both were beaten by her and she should have torn them both a new oneWe all want you to push your agenda forward with confidence and have your Government articulate the following..
No one is really in charge are they and Dazh is correct and someone may well put country before party / their own agenda Its going to be a very rocky period the next 12 mths
kimbers - MemberRumours of Davis ready to quit have been emerging lately, he's just gonna bail out as soon as he possibly can I reckon
He already said he's retiring after brexit so it won't make that much difference to him
How many cabinet ministers is that now? They'll be challenging the labour party soon. She'll be taking inspiration from Jezza on how to hang on.
Do you think she has Aspergers?She doesn’t really seem to have any feelings and even when she smiles she looks sad.
She certainly isn’t all there.
I think she is a mix of stiff upper lip and just incredibly uptight so she does not really do public displays of emotion - she may not do private ones for all i know.
Still a shit PM even for a Tory
So, he admits he lied about the pron.
Is she still here?
I'll say something for her - it must take a serious amount of determination to drag yourself out of bed to go and face this omnishambles every day.
Do you think she has Aspergers?
.....She certainly isn’t all there.
As someone with Aspergers I would say she does. She is not comfortable socially, doesn't display emotion and looks like she has to force herself to fit into the situations, following a script to help.
Take a bit of objection to suggesting someone with Aspergers is not all there but I won't get emotional about it.
Apologies all round to those that live with Aspergers.
Except Enola May ,she can **** off.
do Aspergers sufferers swing from one extreme to another ? John Major - Joseph Stalin 😯
(I don't think for one minute the iron lady act is "Honest", we're are not going to see a Geoffrey Howe moment from Damian.)
tomd -
I'll say something for her - it must take a serious amount of determination to drag yourself out of bed to go and face this omnishambles every day.
+1. If I was an MP, I'd make that bloody awful infantile mooing noise they make when they agree with something.
I think it's called braying, not mooing.
She wil probably fight on until the bitter end. Delivering a Brexshit solution is her only shot at delivering any kind of political legacy. If despite all the crap going on around her, she can deliver here, then history “may” treat her differently - perhaps she is made of former stuff than many around her?
Personally I have no idea how she sleeps at night.
Personally I have no idea how she sleeps at night.
Maybe she just doesn't give a shit?
Personally I have no idea how she sleeps at night
Maybe she thinks it is all going fine
Delivering a Brexshit solution is her only shot at delivering any kind of political legacy
Is she after a legacy on par with Blair's?
Due to the totally irreconcilable Brexit paradox at the centre of the Tory Party, she's safe as houses
Seeing as everything is now viewed through the warped prism of Brexit, only 2 facts matter:
1) The vast majority of Tory MP's were, and still are remainers, and consider Brexit to be utter madness
2) The membership of the Tory party, who will elect the next leader, are all ancient unhinged, deranged nationalistic racists, who honestly believe they can return the country to the days of empire.
Everything else is just white noise.
So if the MP's push Theresa, then they hand the ancient unhinged, deranged nationalistic racists the decision on the future of the party, and the country, at the most critical of times in this nations post-war history
There are only two contenders as far as the headbangers are concerned: Boris and Mogg. Either would be an unmitigated ****ing disaster, that would see us waving two fingers to the EU, crashing out without a deal, and over the abyss into economic Armageddon!
That would finish the Tory Party for generations, if not destroy it permanently, and more importantly "Hand the keys to number ten to a Marxist" © Daily Mail
Like I said... safe as houses
The jobs hers for as long as she wants it. Though why anyone would......?
The jobs hers for as long as she wants it. Though why anyone would......?
I suspect THMs 'grown ups' are behind the scenes telling her that she is all that stands between the nutters or the communists gaining power, and they'll be keeping her very well insulated from most of the flak. She doesn't seem like the type, like Blair and Cameron, to crave approval or adulation so why would she not continue? She's probably secretly enjoying watching the nutters becoming ever more unhinged. It's the biggest trolling exercise in history.
It at times like this that the grown ups show their true value - even if many deny that they exist
Why is Mogg considered a leadership contender? What positions of responsibility has he held? He amuses the media but apart from that he is a marginal player at the moment - just a rent a quote
Mainly because a substantial proportion of the membership of the Tory party would think him an ideal candidate
So the thing that would stop him would be that under the leadership rules the MPs decide who to put up for election by the party, but if the blue rinsers are clamouring for his inclusion would they be brave enough?
Why is Mogg considered a leadership contender? What positions of responsibility has he held?
You're starting from an assumption that we're dealing with rational people here
We're not
This is the Tory party membership we're talking about. Have you seen them? 😯
[quote=teamhurtmore ]Personally I have no idea how she sleeps at night.
TBH she doesn't look like she does very much recently.
Binners, in this order
Boris
Gove
Leadsom
Too early for Patel and more so for JRM
Binners, in this orderBoris
Gove
Leadsom
Ugh. Well let's hope Mrs Ming can hold on until the next election then.
Off-topic a bit, but I was listening to a podcast chatting about Labour’s succession plan. JC is no spring chicken, of course. This is something they need to think about imo as failing to plan for succession often ends badly! The leading name was Thornberry, then a few others from the left who were perceived as too junior at the mo. What was striking was the lack of any names from the right of the party, I guess, given the election system, they wouldn’t have a hope at present!
For the Tories, Hunt’s name is being bandied around too. All a bit tainted, aren’t they?! Hammond, despite seeming a bit dull, would be my choice.
[quote=airtragic ]What was striking was the lack of any names from the right of the party, I guess, given the election system, they wouldn’t have a hope at present!
Which seems to be the way most internal party elections go when they end up in a public vote - the Tory leadership electorate is far more right wing than the majority of those who vote Tory. See also Roy Moore getting put forward by the Republican primary etc.
I posted this on page 1, six months ago and don’t see that anything has changed:
She made a series of appalling decisions and frankly will inspire no confidence at all. However, the last thing the country needs is a leadership battle. She needs to realign the position and move forward...for now at least!
airtragic - MemberFor the Tories, Hunt’s name is being bandied around too. All a bit tainted, aren’t they?!
I like the headlines "Jeremy Hunt positions himself for a leadership bid". There's probably an internal vacancy coming up at my place which I'm after, and I'm preparing for it by doing extra work in that field, being generally awesome, and trying to impress the boss and colleagues. Jeremy Hunt, in my position, would prepare for it by smearing himself in his own shit then telling everyone how amazing being smeared in shit is
Milf or Gilf is my question.
If we get a carp deal, do we still exit? Or another referendum/general election?
It was carp that got us into this Brexit mess in the first place!
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Well at least they are not eating the swans anymore.
benny hill themetune time
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The reshuffle is now in serious trouble. Hunt was supposed to emerge from No10 as the new Business Secretary. Appears Greg Clark has refused to budge.
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Breaking: the reshuffle's big shock - Jeremy Hunt refused a move to BEIS to insist he stay on as Health Sec with a beefed up brief of social care too.
Hunt in charge of social care. Surely this is some kind of elaborate joke?
I see the lying David Davis is still in, so too that berk BloJo.
Glad I’m not a scheming Tory beastiality fetsh ponce.
She's just reinforced exactly how week she is, by confirming that the hardline Brexiteers are indeed unsackable.
Boris could get his nob out and wave it at some international dignitaries on live telly, and he'd still be safe as Foreign Secretary
