[Closed] Should Britain go to war with Iran?

S/he's not going to be any more right or wrong depending on where s/he happened to be born.

Which begs the question why he is so reticent to divulge where he was born. I'm not ashamed of my birthplace or ethnicity.

And I care where he was born as he makes great issue that people from third world countries are maggots which have poked a hornets nest, and it is therefore their responsibility if they get the crap bombed out of them. Which he feels confident to say as although he himself comes from a Far East third world country, he now lives in "the hornets nest"

BTW I use the term "I care" very loosely........I can't imagine actually caring what chewkw says about anything, apart from the obvious entertainment value of his posts of course.

Here is chewkw's foreign policy statement :

My view is simple. The winner(s) set the rules and the losers follow and if they refuse they get punish. Simple. If nuking to get the job done so be it (we may win or we may lose). People suffer people die so if one does not want to suffer or die then one should control/better oneself and stop trying to change the world or others, which apply to all including those rogue states ... yes, rogue.

[i]Should [b][u]Britain[/b][/u] go to war with [b][u]Iran[/b][/u]?[/i]

I believe the nature of the original question, and the inclusion of two specific countries, makes the nationality and location of anyone posting a fair topic for discussion in this case.

For example, would an Iranian agree with an American on this topic?

For example, would an Iranian agree with an American on this topic?

don simon,
My point remains :
The relevance of location and nationality is explicit in the OP's question, by asking about [i]Britain [/i] going to war with [i]Iran[/i].

I apologise if my choice of example causes issues for you and offer to retract it. I wouldn't want to get into an argument about [i]Why / Why not[/i] a theoretical Iranian [i]Would / Would not[/i] think the same as a theoretical American on the subject of Britain going to war with Iran. I accept it is not beyond the realms of possibillity that they can think the same. However, there is also the [i]possibility[/i] that they don't and this could be influenced by their position within this hypothetical situation. In fact, I fully accept that the impossiblity is for us to know how others are thinking without asking them and listening to their response.TBH I did not claim to know whether the two would agree or not, merely raised the question (which you answered with two questions).

ernie_lynch - Member

Which begs the question why he is so reticent to divulge where he was born. I'm not ashamed of my birthplace or ethnicity.

I have disclosed where I come from but if you cannot be arsed to see the "fire wood in the forest" there is nothing I can do. The answer is already right in front of you. Go check it. Do you need to be spoon fed like all the teens nowadays?

And I care where he was born as he makes great issue that people from third world countries are maggots which have poked a hornets nest, and it is therefore their responsibility if they get the crap bombed out of them. Which he feels confident to say as although he himself comes from a Far East third world country, he now lives in "the hornets nest"

Re-read the reference to maggots. Yes, including you and not just people from other countries. Like I say I treat everyone equally ... as maggot. So please don't think you/we are mighty great as a hornet.

As for living in the hornets nest well that's just part of life like everyone here. We moved around in search of greener pasture - legally in accordance to the law and the rules of the land. I did not jump off the truck at Dover put it this way.

BTW I use the term "I care" very loosely........I can't imagine actually caring what chewkw says about anything, apart from the obvious entertainment value of his posts of course.

No problem. Forum is for diverse opinions. Some good, some bad and some weird but that's the fun of it. What's the point of having a forum where everyone agrees? You might as well talk to yourself.

🙄

I apologise if my choice of example causes issues for you and offer to retract it. I wouldn't want to get into an argument about Why / Why not a theoretical Iranian Would / Would not think the same as a theoretical American on the subject of Britain going to war with Iran. I accept it is not beyond the realms of possibillity that they can think the same. However, there is also the possibility that they don't and this could be influenced by their position within this hypothetical situation. In fact, I fully accept that the impossiblity is for us to know how others are thinking without asking them and listening to their response.TBH I did not claim to know whether the two would agree or not, merely raised the question (which you answered with two questions).

Best post ever.

Malaysia, where there is tension between Muslim and Christian communities. No points for guessing which camp your in Chewkw. Violence begets violence you know.

chewkw - my apologies. I appear to have set the dogs on you by my innocent question. IMHO, if you contribute to the forum, you have a right to have your opinion heard and where you're from is irrelevant.

even if you're cornish ?

Meh - I have standards!

weester - Member

Malaysia, where there is tension between Muslim and Christian communities. No points for guessing which camp your in Chewkw. Violence begets violence you know.

😆 I am none of the above Abrahamic faith so your guess is wrong.

Yes, violence begets violence but the concept of "if someone slap you in the right cheek let them slap you in the left cheek as well" is really stupid. Who taught you that?

The answer is if someone slap you in the right cheek you learn and avoid being slapped again, or better still slap the hell out of the other person to teach him/her a lesson.

weester, where are you from? Scotland by any chance? But do tell. 🙄

p/s: druidh, no apology needed. No offence taken from everyone as well. It's a forum after all and that's how it works. 🙂

hahaha!

Like we have any say in it, going straight to hell and those who are in charge, only care about steering.

Do not lose faith, those who have shown us paradise are only getting started 😈

Judging by how quickly events are escalating or more accurately how quickly the situation is deteriorating on this world, this should get very interesting, SOON! 😯

Chewkw, you are a psychopath. Possibly even a zionist

Wrecker, are you familiar with what Zionisism has done to the world?

Chewkw, I'm from Britain. 🙄 Look, I wasn't trying to make an issue of your faith, I was just trying to get a handle on why you feel like you've been so wronged to want to justify a war that will lead to the deaths of millions?

BTW, your english seems alright to me. Its not how but what you said that has erm, intrigued me.

Wrecker, are you familiar with what Zionisism has done to the world

People in "being assholes" shocker.
Being dicks is not exclusive to the zionists. Christians, Muslims, communists, capitalists etc etc have all done their fair share of damage and I wouldn't use any of these terms as an insult. It would be easier to name the groups who haven't adversely affected the world (although none spring to mind).

wrecker - Member

I find it funny that you regard the word Zionist as an insult!

LOL! None of the descriptions insulted me in anyway or form but I am not sure if it was the other round. 😀

Chewkw, I'm from Britain.

Aha ... you've avoided the question. So exactly where? Scotland, N.Ireland, Wales? North, East, South or West?

I have no issue about others questioning my belief but that's another story.

As for the nuking the maggots ... it's going to happen so why pussy footing about eh?

What's with all these shite about Zionists trying to rule the world? That is impossible as the nature of things mean there will always be a counter balance to balance things up. 🙄

I have disclosed where I come from but if you cannot be arsed to see the "fire wood in the forest" there is nothing I can do. The answer is already right in front of you. Go check it. Do you need to be spoon fed like all the teens nowadays?

What you talking about, stop talking in riddles......are you suggesting that I should trawl through reading every post in the whole forum ? I'm such a teenager, eh ? 😀

If you don't have a problem saying where you come from then just spit it out - no need to go all round the back-doubles. Besides, I thought I had made it clear that I knew.

.

I find it funny that you regard the word Zionist as an insult!

Well if I accused someone of being a Zionist I wouldn't expect them to take it as a compliment.

A territorial claim based on what God told Moses three thousand years ago is quite frankly idiotic.

And all the more so as most Israelis do not consider themselves to be "religious". Plus many ultra-orthodox Jews refuse to recognise the Israeli State on the grounds that God banished the Jewish people into exile.

The belief that Jews are entitled to Palestinian land as reparation for what Europeans, in particular Germans, did to them, is also equally absurd.

An American Jew has no automatic right to a "homeland" other than the United States. Similarly, Russian Jews, Australian Jews, whatever, have no automatic right to live anywhere other than own country.

Zionism is based on bigotry - it goes to the very heart of Zionism, and it is as much of a stain on humanity as the Apartheid was. If I call someone a Zionist or racist I fully expect them to feel insulted, despite the fact that they might feel perfectly happy to consider themselves to be Zionist or racist.

jackthedog - what exactly is your point? Or are you some sort of bot that produces texts from individual English words that are almost, but not quite, intelligible?

😯 What the bejesus has happened to this thread???

and iran continues the political game

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16344102
and
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/12/22/uk-iran-navy-wargame-idUKTRE7BL0HZ20111222

whilst they could be forging good favour by using their navy to counter the pirate problem in the arabian sea?

Nope

They block that strait of Hormuz and all bets are off. Our "special cousins" will go batshit and they won't do it quietly.

they could be forging good favour by using their navy to counter the pirate problem in the arabian sea?

So you think it would be a bad thing for the Iranian Navy to run training exercises but a good thing for them to be boarding vessels in international waters? Got it...

so policing international waters from criminal gangs is a bad thing?

fair enough jim laddddd!

[img] [/img]

so policing international waters from criminal gangs is a bad thing?

who mentioned training? er that was you..

read the article - it references 'war game' and 'relaying a message of peace and friendship' but not training

[url= http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/02/world/meast/iran-missile-test/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 ]Fighting Talk[/url] The time for talking is coming to an end....

surely.. [i]surely[/i] any rational person can see that this is simply a very nervous and heavily persecuted country just desperately trying a last ditch attempt to get the psychotic playground bullies to back off..?

I have a deep seated fear that unless the west can somehow come to their collective senses and put a stop to America's fanaticism, then it will run like that youtube video.. where the Easts docile large young lad takes one too many humiliating taunts from the Wests small gobby bully before turning on him and pile-driving him brutally and pretty finally into the floor..

Have only read pages 1 and 2 but the answer is still "No". Iran is the victim in far more ways that it is the villain. Why USA cant a) see this and b) learn to stop imposing its views on the rest of the world unilatterally is a headache for sure. The pro Israel lobby is the answer but even so common sense should prevail. Hopefully China and Russia will keep USA and UK honest on this one.

Hopefully China and Russia will keep USA and UK honest on this one.

Fingers crossed, although they have another trick up their sleeves (China especially) and thats North Korea....

Hopefully 2012 will see some kind of change for the better, and some way of keeping America (and our government) on a tight leash.

It's the US carrying out Israeli foreign policy and the UK is lickspittling in with them.

It's the US carrying out Israeli foreign policy and the UK is lickspittling in with them.

Indeed. It's hard to imagine why the UK would care if Iran was developing nuclear weapons otherwise....such a peaceful nation, led by such a reasonable and sensible man, would surely be entirely responsible with them.

.such a peaceful nation, led by such a reasonable and sensible man, would surely be entirely responsible with them.

Hmm on that basis why don't we invade Israel.

iran doesnt have a centralised bank owned by rockafella et al. which is why the usa and uk will be going in soon.

you are responsible for the actions of your government

it references 'war game'

iran doesnt have a centralised bank owned by rockafella et al. which is why the usa and uk will be going in soon.

Conspiracy theory alert!

Hmm on that basis why don't we invade Israel.

and America

The [i]mighty[/i] west is the puppet of Israel.

Our governments are held to ransom by the Jewish lobby.

It is, that simple.

Pro Israel types learnt some time ago, it was better to pull the strings of power from the back corridors of Westminster and Congress. than to bomb the west into submission...

All manner of lobbying goes on, I find the practice mostly disstastful.
However, I very much dislike the way we are soft on Israel, epscially in light of recent issues to do with UK passports and Mossad hit squads...

Hahaha! go to war 😯 you mean invade, rape, murder and pillage ❓

you mean invade, rape, murder and pillage

I think you meant to post that on the royal mail thread.. 😀

konabunny - Member

[i]iran doesnt have a centralised bank owned by rockafella et al. which is why the usa and uk will be going in soon.[/i]

Conspiracy theory alert!

What about Gadaffi's efforts to create a new currency for Africa and Muslim countries in order to shift economic power away from the dollar?

Conspiracy or just another thing in the 'pro' column when 'intervention' was being discussed?

trailmonkey - Member

[i]the planet would be better off if the UK and US were nuked from the face of the planet, is the real truth. Cos it's us that start all the bloody wars these days..[/i]

ace

classic middle class angst

Eh? Afghanistan and Iraq didn't declare war on us.

They have pretty handy armed forces and I'd likely be involved in any conflict so for that reason ahm oot!!

@yunki D'oh! F@CK ing keyborad, it's all your fault!

Gunz, you watch you ass dog, these f[s]e[/s]ckers don't give a crap about people like you!

On the plus side, we already have troops nearby, so moving them to the Iran if it does kick off would be relatively easy.

I really should stop playing Risk: World Domination and Global War on Terror, it's clouding my judgement on reality.