[Closed] Screwdrivers - whats good?

I hate buying screwdrivers. So many are shit nowadays.

My screwdriver box looks like an accident in Woolies Pick'n'Mix. I think the only ones that seem to have some guts to their edge are some older stanley flats. Everything else (draper esp) lose their teeth too quickly. I really must treat myself to a top notch set, so *tick*

Very good question. There is no doubt that the old stanley ones with the red or blue handles were fantastic. I have some newer ones which are not too bad but I think that with screw drivers, more than many other things, you get what you pay for.

As my dad told me, don't buy cheap tools, they'll only break in the middle of what you're doing and then you're stuck.

My screwdriver box

you have a special box set aside only for screwdrivers ?

I've got some Facom Protwist seem to do the job alright.

you have a special box set aside only for screwdrivers ?

Well durr...

Screwdrivers, spanners, sockets, pliers, allen keys, drill bits...
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Yamoto YMT-572-2080K for a £10 - Autoexpress gave these a 'Best Buy'.

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Excellent question. Seems to be the norm these days just to get cheap disposable bits.

I've got a flatblade that used to belong to my grandad, the handle is wooden and the shaft I think must've been forged in the fires of Mordor. it's been used for driving screws, opening paint tins, impromptu chiselling, levering up floorboards, and it's still in better shape than most of my 'new' screwdrivers which have been carefully looked after. It'll probably outlast me.

I'm well impressed with these:

http://www.drapertools.com/b2c/b2citmdsp.pgm?pp_skmno=64672&ipadd=

As good as the Facom ones I have - and they're good.

Hth
Marko

Now feeling deeply envious of Stoner's setup. Though I bought a vice last week, felt all manly when I set it up.

Stoner = OCD

yep, probably.

I hate buying screwdrivers. So many are shit nowadays.

Very true. Nowhere is the golden rule that cheap tools are a waste of time more applicable than in the case of screwdrivers. My only advice is buy expensive.

I tend to pick up old ones in markets that are in good condition as I've found that even expensive ones are rarely as good quality - same goes for other hand tools.

I work on the principal that if they've lasted this long, they will do me just fine.

Bought a set of Snap on screwdrivers about 15 years ago, one a ratchet with interchangable bits so used as allen keys and torx also. Never needed to buy another since. Jolly expensive initially but they will out last me. I was on the tools in factories and out and about as a service engineer till 3 years ago so they have all had plenty of 'professional' use.

Nowhere is the golden rule that cheap tools are a waste of time more applicable than in the case of screwdrivers

And chisels... 🙂

I have a set of Stanley screwdrivers...something like this, and they're excellent:

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Only thing I'd supplement it with is a stubby Pozi 2. Never underestimate the value of stubby screwdrivers 🙂

Also, a really long-handled flat blade - like around 15 inches long - is very handy for removing old screws in hinges (always tend to be slotted, and stiff) - I think there's something to do with the length of the driver and the torque you apply...or something like that anyway.

dd - I have two of those (flat heads) and they are the only ones that havent gone cheesy on me.

Whats the pozi ones like?

Stoner I hate you and your organised "den"

Man caves should be so dis organised that women do not want go in.

"Man caves should [s] be so dis organised [/s] have locks on the inside so that women cant [s]do not want[/s] go in."

FTFY 😉

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Pozi ones seem fine - though to be honest, Pozi work tends to be done by drill/driver - I have a Stanley stubby pozi in my handkit bag that's been working away for years without a hitch.

Halfords Professional have a life time warranty don't they. Take em back and get some new ones. I've had no bother with mine.

same model as those stanley's DD? (And why cant I find that model range on the stanley tools website?)

Take em back and get some new ones.

While I think that's a fine warranty, a mangled screw and driver that you need to get out there and then is a bit of a pain in the arse. 🙂

I hate you Stoner.

same model as those stanley's DD?

It's actually this one:

(Screwfix, Jeeziz, how shit is it for buying single screwdrivers?!?)

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(I think it might by the "Stanley Works" range...?)

I hate you Stoner.

I hate him too but only because he stood me up after a promising a romantic pint in the Malverns 😀

who stood who up?

tart.

+1 for the Facom gear. Got a selection of their tools and seem have done me well

While I think that's a fine warranty, a mangled screw and driver that you need to get out there and then is a bit of a pain in the arse.

If you use the right driver head you shouldn't mangle a screw head. A simple/cheap impact driver will remove the screw if you make a hash of it though.

I put the blame more on the cheap metal screws, than the drivers myself.

I put the blame more on the cheap metal screws, than the drivers myself.

Tru dat. 🙂

Full disclosure - I work for Stanley. In fact I used to work on screwdrivers so could talk about them all day, but will stick to the facts...

The range pictured above is the FatMax range - you can see the set options here:

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/category/147221

The majority of failures we saw were due to the wrong screwdriver being used. Buy a good and comprehensive set and use the right size.

If you want to pry, chisel, thump and open tins of paint, consider the demo driver range!

http://www.stanleytools.co.uk/category/147255

ah - I was on the .com site!

Right then GS - what chance of a bulk buy discount for STW then 🙂

I work for Stanley.

I'd love to hear a recommendation for a range within the brand, then.

My findings with both Stanley and Draper are that they used to be solid, reliable brand names, but these days seem to produce both good quality tools and cheap crap, which makes it difficult to trust implicitly when buying.

Apologies if I'm wrong, but that's my experiences.

I have quite a bit of stanley fatmax stuff now (stocked by my bui
lders merchant) and it's been pretty good stuff. Hammer, lump hammer, those two screwdrivers. Id happily get more as and when...

Is it wrong that I'm strangely aroused by Stoner's set up!!!

It's how I imagine my garage looking, sadly mine looks like an electrical store on Tottenham High St 🙁

Like anything, quality relates to price. We have several price points and do cater for the cheaper end of the scale with basic product.

FatMax is the sub-brand for tools deemed good enough for Pro and Trade - solid, reliable and good quality.

FatMax XL or Xtreme is the top tier, high quality, best in class.

Like anything, quality relates to price. We have several price points and do cater for the cheaper end of the scale with basic product.

This, really, is what I find with all hand tools - personally, I like Stanley's more expensive stuff and I know that if I buy the Fat Max (or XL) - I won't be buying it twice. Their FAT Max Tape Measures are the dogs. Mine has something like a 4 metre hang out before bending...you'd be surprised how handy this can be sometimes 🙂

Stanley Yankee 131 for real men, everything else is gay, Fact!

Mine has something like a 4 metre hang out before bending...you'd be surprised how handy this can be sometimes

Like this?!

Wera

Another vote for Stanley Fatmax here too. Got a set here and bought a seconds for the lab.

Stoner, is that a Stanley Fatmax corkscrew 🙂

What you need is a Brummie one.

mos - Member

Stanley Yankee 131 for real men, everything else is gay, Fact!

I knew an old chippy, long dead now, who said the complete opposite - pump screwdrivers were not for real chippies. Use your wrist man.

The Victorians built Britain with the help of these :

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BTW, I hope no one is under the misapprehension that screwdrivers should last for years. Flat screwdrivers should be regularly re-ground/filed, and pozidrive/philips screwdrivers should be regularly thrown away.

The only difference between decent screwdrivers and cheap ones, is that cheap ones should be thrown away straight away.