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[Closed] Saw an all white baby deer (fawn ?) yesterday ...rare or not?

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whilst out biking up at haldon (nr exeter ) I saw the above ...twice on the same ride. Is this fairly common or a real rarity?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:01 am
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I think it's quite rare.

There was a bit of a fuss last yer about whether an estate should put a premium on shooting a white buck deer (can't remember the type), or whether they should have protected it.

The British Deer Society might be able to help you out though.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:08 am
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There are two stags in the Wyre forest that are albino, I have seen one of them twice or have I seen them both, not sure


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:20 am
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I've seen one or two in Wentwood forest. Spotted a young one last week - thought it was a dog at first.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:23 am
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Up here in Scotland there a quite a few whitish looking red deer on the deer farms. Never seen any in the wild though


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:24 am
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i like my deer to be rare... tastes better that way


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:25 am
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are they albino? - or just white? - subtle but significant difference...


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:26 am
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Seen a couple in the Chilterns, there's a couple of large herds (that need a bit of culling, really) and there a white stag and a doe amongst them


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:27 am
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I've seen one once, up at the back of Dunkeld.

In medieval times they had mythical status because they were so rare. They are still rare now, but as there are no longer any natural predators for them, they tend to die of old age, or through stalking, rather than being eaten by a wolf because they stood out like a sore thumb.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:28 am
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There's quite a few of them in Richmond, Bushy and Hampton Court parks but obviously that's because they have no predators there who like a shiny white deer to chase.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:30 am
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Anyone ever wonder what all the "White Hart" pubs are named after?


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:55 am
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they are an omen, avoid the gypsies curse! sign over all your possessions to me immediately!


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 12:11 pm
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Ive seen a few with like a funny single horn aswell. Look a bit daft if you ask me...


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 12:49 pm
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we have a few near us in the middle of the Sussex countryside. They were supposedly rare back in the day but apparently now they're introduced to a herd to enable the gamekeepers etc to keep better tabs - ie. easier to spot etc (and then shoot)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 1:00 pm
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There's quite a few of them in Richmond, Bushy and Hampton Court parks but obviously that's because they have no predators there who like a shiny white deer to chase

[pedant] Deer have no natural predators anywhere in the UK which is why they have reached pest proportions [/pedant].
The numbers down south are probably kept manageable by the number of car strikes from sheer volume of traffic


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 1:22 pm
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The 'White Hart' pubs are named after King Richard II who had that emblem as his personal badge, which is why the ones on the pub signs tend to have a crown around their necks.

Richard II caused all inns & ale-houses to display signs bearing the arms and/or badges of the great nobles who's men drank in those places so that if you were a supporter of the Nevilles for instance, you knew not to go into an inn bearing the white cresents of the Percy family 🙂

That's why we have such pub signs as the Black/White bear, the Lions & suchlike.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 2:07 pm
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If you kill it you have to get the drinks in.

Or is that only true on a pheasant shoot??


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 2:14 pm
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There used to be a white deer on the Quantocks 15 or so years ago, but the poachers got it 🙁


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 5:42 pm
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In Point Reyes, Marin County there are loads of them. An albino strain was bred for wealthy San Franciscans to hunt. Apparenty they were such poor shots, they brought the white ones in to give them a chance. Even then they bred so rapidly they became a pest.

Just like shooting sheep.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 5:57 pm
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Depends wether you're talking red or fallow deer. fallow deer have natural colour variations from menil (white, but normal eyes etc, so not albino) through to melanistic, which are almost black.

Red deer have the odd albino as a natural genetic variation, which are indeed pretty rare


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 6:01 pm
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Unlikely to be albino. As Zulu says about colour variations.

A few months back I saw a white fallow deer. Several years previously in the same vicinity I had seen one. Like to think it was one and the same. Had my binoculars with me that time, watched the herd for quite a while and it definitely was not albino.

Talking of coats, the roe deer are looking gorgeous with their Summer one. 8)


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 9:10 pm
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rather than being eaten by a wolf because they stood out like a sore thumb.

I'm guessing albino deer would also fall foul of predators because of poor eyesight.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 10:14 pm
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good work from scruff up there

silvery sheen ? think I've seen it too


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 10:18 pm
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There are apparantly 5 or 6 [fallow] here in the FoD according to the rangers. There was a well photographed white stag in the Brierley (nr Cinderford) area which was killed on the road 18 months or so ago.


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 10:24 pm
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As Zulu-eleven said most likely a Fallow deer of the menil persuasion.

If your interested [url= http://www.bds.org.uk/fallow.html ]BDS site info.[/url]


 
Posted : 20/08/2010 11:00 pm
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I saw a couple of adult white fallow deer in a herd of ~20 in a field adjacent to Wepham Woods near Worthing a few weeks ago. I assume a parent & it's previous years offspring.


 
Posted : 21/08/2010 9:31 am