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My guess is that Putin worked out years ago that Russia could never compete with the West on military spending, so he’s just come up with more cost effective ways of undermining the West.
Absolutely. He saw the crippling economic effects of trying to compete militarily and thus 'conventionally'.
Why bother with all that when, for the price of a couple of hookers to have a slash on Trumpy and a few fake Facebook accounts, you can subvert 'western democracy'?
The depressing thing is it needs stupid people in those 'western democracies' who can be easily conned into voting against their best interests. But here we are....
The depressing thing is it needs stupid people in those ‘western democracies’ who can be easily conned into voting against their best interests. But here we are….
Yup. Perhaps no coincidence that both the US and UK have high levels of adults with poor functional literacy. In the UK, I think we’re living with the old Tory idea of what to do with the proletariat - ‘keep em pissed, and keep em thick’. We live in one of the former Labour stronghold Brexit supporting ex mining areas, and the levels of general ignorance around here are staggering compared to anywhere else I’ve lived. (Our next door neighbour voted for BoJo because she thinks he’s funny.....😒)
Watch Hypernormalisation by Adam Curtis on the iPlayer.
ESSENTIAL VIEWING
We are so f***** and parasitised as a country.
I can't but help think the EU will be better off without us in the long term.
It's ok, the government is going to pass a law so that any foreign agents have to register....
BBC News - Russia report: UK considers tougher security laws after criticism by MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53489613
It seems that other countries have something like this already, but I'm eager for someone to explain to me why any foreign agents wishing us harm will sign up to register their plan 🤷♂️
Dear Mr Spy, please put your name and address on this list so we know who you are and where you live so we can track and trace you at all time.
Yours
Boris.
Oh the many points of irony...
Please provide details of the intention of your visit
A. To undermine the democratic process
B. Money laundering
C. Poisoning exiled traitors to the Russian state
Report contains a suggestion that the 2014 IndyRef was influenced by Russia. It seems only proper that we annull the result and have an immediate re-run.
Yep, that's the bit. Thanks for posting it. I couldn't be arsed finding it.
It's the flipside of the coin of Trunps corona virus claims. We have more incidents because we test more. We found no evidence when we didn't look for it.
With the Scottish ref which side did Russia interfere for? I remember talk at the time of Russian money but can't remember details. Presumably YES side
Wel salmond did get a job on RT
I'm no defence analyst but I'm sure Putin wouldn't mind UK having to move it's sub bases from Scotland
But brexit far more destabilising for UK & EU in particular,
Presumably YES side
Given Russian intentions; probably funded bots and trolls on both sides of the debate
Joris Bohnson has just stood up at PMQ's and said 'no other country is doing more to combat Russian interference than us'
And now he's banging on about Islington remoaners and taking back control
Absolutely unbelievable. The government is now just trolling us all, aren't they?
tjagain
SubscriberWith the Scottish ref which side did Russia interfere for? I remember talk at the time of Russian money but can’t remember details. Presumably YES side
There was a pretty good article about internet interference at the time, tracking bots and the like, and interestingly they were doing both. Supportive stuff for yes, which seems consistent with Russia's motives, but also tons of conspiracy stuff, spreading of lies, abuse etc- creating division on both sides rather than pushing for one result.