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I agree but if the guy had landed on his feet it would have been a different scenario so it’s a bit of a lottery isn’t it?
I think 10 minutes with 14 then back to 15 with a different player is a fairer outcome.
I agree with the first point but think the answer is to treat them all the same ie red.
AA – did you say that when The welsh forward ( AWJ?) got a red in the WC
It was Sam Warburton and yes decision was correct, the frustration came from the fact that others hadnt followed the guidance in the same world cup. I was gutted, it was accidental, it ruined the game but you know what Sam never did it again.
Krypton THM getting a ban didn’t lead to a situation vacant, don’t be that guys spiritual successor. Nothing wrong with a quick penalty, the physios weren’t dealing with a head injury and the carded player had been dealt with. The England support team were just slowing play down to allow England to reorganise, any comment on sportsmanship there? As to your other point, North is a 2 times Lion, why wouldn’t he score against a full strength England?
I’m not. I’m overseas and 5h behind you so yesterday was reliant on what I could see from my FB feed, hence asking for clarity on the quick tap situation. I’ve read it here and on the media now so fair do’s. On the North comments I’m just reacting to the fact that he’s being painted as a genius for that play in some places whereas in reality it was a 3 player over lap and a clear run in with no defence in front of him - notwithstanding his skills elsewhere and in this play to catch and finish - therefore not the hardest or most amazing score a player of his calibre has ever scored.
Credit to Wales though. Reads as though our backs were kept out of the game and were given no opportunity to try to unlock that good Welsh defence.
Reads as though our backs were kept out of the game and were given no opportunity to try to unlock that good Welsh defence.
My take on that is the English backs actually looked decent until Farrell came on when they never got another decent ball. although they looked decent the welsh defence kept them out just and I also thought Enghland blew a few chances
Lol. That explains why it’s important to get several opinions, if you read sky sports player ratings this morning it essentially paints a picture that England were pretty average. Put that into his threads perspective and that’s doing Wales an injustice.
we have Darcy Graham – 5’9 and under 12 stone. Very young and inexperienced and possibly our best winger
Yeah, I remember him from 7s too -very elusive.
I think Christian Wade couldda been another Shane Williams if he'd been given a fair shot.
England have raided the 7s pantry with McConnochie but only after he'd come back to XVs but they should have thought about bringing Dan Norton back. He was superior to McConnochie in most respects. France brought Vakatawa straight back from 7s with great results.
watched the NZ match….be afraid, be very afraid,they were scarily good.
They were good but not scarily so. Australia were useless - the surprise is that they managed to beat NZ last week. It feels like they can’t put a phase together without a handling error, forward pass or whatever.
And when talking about red cards it might be worth asking why Coles didn’t get one for picking a player up and literally throwing him away. No control, no regard to safety, a deliberately reckless act of foul play designed to intimidate. Of course, if the scrum half had landed on his head... 🙄
TJ , you're right, was muddling my mind with high tackle laws!
CFH - its the same with the high tackle - accidental / no force - pen. Deliberate or reckless - yellow, with force - red
CFH – its the same with the high tackle – accidental / no force – pen. Deliberate or reckless – yellow, with force – red
How does that relate to the Cipriani red then? BY that reckoning it shouldda been a penalty only.
Look, if a bloke runs into another bloke and takes him out in the air then that's a penalty - fair enough. But if the different sanctions are based on the outcome then that's nonsense. That means three blokes could do EXACTLY the same thing and one could be penalised, one could get a yellow and one a red.
Ice hockey has the best system. Player gets ejected but he's replaced by another after the penalty is served. If a team is short handed and the other team scores on the powerplay then you get your man back again.
So, Jones is whinging again, and Barnes is saying England are nothing but World Cup hopefuls, Ford was shit and Farrell one dimensional.
Business as usual then.
Cips - on a break in NY - has spoken to basically say after he returned home from the fitness camp he never heard from Jones again. As if we didn’t know it, sounds like that bridge has burned.
Rumours are Curry and Underhill will be in Vs Ireland.
Finally a decent video of the North try, you can see clearly the ref blowing whistle to restart, no England players appear down injured.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQa25-xH8o
Finally a decent video of the North try, you can see clearly the ref blowing whistle to restart, no England players appear down injured.
TBH I can't see what all the fuss was about.
You need to be ready to play as soon as a penalty is awarded and once the ref signals to restart if you're not ready it's your own fault. I think I learned that in Primary 5.
TBH I can’t see what all the fuss was about.
England lost.
😂
Ah but only due to those sneaky welsh not playing the game properly! 😉
Talking of sneaky, Itoje's attempts to hold down Josh Adams are very amateur, needs some lessons from AWJ.
if it had been from the first phase there might have been an excuse for whining - but it wasn't. Couple of phases later so the defence should have been in place.
Great, now the IRB are going to have to change the rules again.
Great, now the IRB are going to have to change the rules again.
And then England will have match winning try disallowed a few months later!!
Wasn’t Eddie Jones whinging about not getting 50:50 decisions? You’d think he’d never been to an away rugby match. 😂
Bah. If we lose the game because of one try, then we weren't really in a position to win. Shit happens in Rugby. Make sure your game can deal with the variances. I hate all this crap. Wales won. We just need To accept it.
The problem is though, we get hyped by the media every single match about how great our team is only to then look fairly average for the majority of the time.
It’s like a surfer looking for “that” wave, when it comes once in a while it’s glorious, the rest of the time we have to sit back and listen to the wind blowing in forlorn hope, and trudge back to the Camper slightly disappointed.
Its the polar opposite of being a New Zealander.
I have surfed most of NZ. Just as fickle as the UK..
I have surfed most of NZ
My brother used to live in Raglan....great spot
Raglan is World class, when I was there it was blowing so hard you could hardly stand up.
Blade Thompson starts for Scotland on saturday...good luck to him, please try not to break him for the whole season I want to see him for Scarlets a bit more!!
Raglan is World class, when I was there it was blowing so hard you could hardly stand up.
Same, its like that most of the time.
Mako is back apparently. I give him two games before he breaks again.
Raglan
It will be interesting to see how he goes. I have not seen him play.
Scotland team - one setup to be mashed I fear. Dunno what toonie is playing at - this should hav=e been our strongest possible team and while stronger than last week still some very odd picks!
Gordon Reid (Ayrshire Bulls) – 35 caps
2. George Turner (Glasgow Warriors) – 6 caps
3. Willem Nel (Edinburgh) – 29 caps
4. Scott Cummings (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
5. Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) – 5 caps
6. Ryan Wilson VICE CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 43 caps
7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh) – 25 caps
8. Blade Thomson (Scarlets) – uncapped
9. Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Clermont Auvergne) – 71 caps
10. Finn Russell (Racing 92) – 44 caps
11. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 40 caps
12. Pete Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 41 caps
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester) – 8 caps
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 50 caps
15. Stuart Hogg VICE CAPTAIN (Exeter Chiefs) – 68 caps
Bench
16. Grant Stewart (Glasgow Warriors) – uncapped
17. Allan Dell (London Irish) – 22 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh)– 20 caps
19. Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh) – 34 caps
20. John Barclay (Edinburgh) – 72 caps
21. George Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 5 caps
22. Rory Hutchinson (Northampton Saints) – 1 cap
23. Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh) – 12 caps
It will be interesting to see how he goes. I have not seen him play.
I expect he will be rusty, only had a few run outs at end of season I think. He did look good before his head knock though. Not top international good but decent international good. I'd have him at 8 for Wales over Moriarty.
"One step forwards two steps backward war inna babylon"
thats what this feels like to me. Lets hope Toonie has some great masterplan. I can't see it.
That pack is going to get mashed and two centres who have not really shone on the international stage
O'Te'o has finished his Ire England career. Off to play for the love club with deepest pockets. Maybe he'll look for a French cap.
Teo has signed a short term deal with Toulon, even before the RWC and a potential injury call up (unlikely as its a position we dont have a shortage of players for)
Talk about burning bridges. Feels like petulance to me.
That guy summed up everything wrong with the modern game.
Feels like petulance to me.
Rugby mercenary tries to maximise earnings, no surprise
Those tackle pads won't hold themselves, you know.
I am all good with this, but I wonder how many people will book tickets and accommodation to the 'rugby world cup' and end up seeing the women.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/21/rugby-world-cups-gender-neutrality
I put this marker down here, Nostradamus like, we will see this as a news item.
O'Teo that's brilliant. I do smile when I see the mercenaries when the anthems are on. Wasn't his misdemeanor with Brown at a team social too...must have been some bonding session.
In the latest Rugby comedy tragedy, Brand Hask has signed for the UFC heavy weight division. Now I bet there’s a few on here that’d love to see how he performs in his first fight... 😀
Better news, England team looks strong:
Sinckler, George, Marler
Itoje, Kruis
Curry, Billy, Underhill
Youngs
May, Ford, Farrell, Tuilagi, Cockigsigna, Daly
IRB rule change in effect LOL.
I just do not get the Ford Farrell partnership.
I thought that idea was tried and failed. two flawed ( but good) 10s do not add up to 10+12!
The only ball that will be distributed from Farrell will be the crash ball to Tuilagi.
Nobody needs a crystal ball to see that coming.
The only ball the back 3 will see will be the high one or the one dribbling in to touch in their own 22.
IRB rule change in effect LOL.
Comedy!
I’m looking forward to both the Scotland v France game and the England v Ireland game.
With home advantage for Scotland, both games might be fairly evenly balanced, at least on paper. Not many people on here seem keen on predicting scores, but it keeps me amused so (with even less confidence than usual):
Scotland v France 18:30, I have a feeling everything is going to suddenly click for France.
England v Ireland 25:10
Unless I have bought tickets for Scotland to play France at water polo - I think the match KOs at 1310 ?
I am looking forward to the novel experience of watching rugby and drinking beer in the sun - just like we do in The Colonies.