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Graham Henry leaving out BOTH Sitiveni Sivivatu and Hosea Gear. What's he playing at? Toeava is better than both? No he isn't. Just a shame we probably won't see either at the RWC now...
The ABs seem to have gone all conservative now coz that's how other teams have won world cups. This means they won't play their natural game and gives EVERYONE ELSE A CHANCE! They've also decided that Piri Weepu and Colin Slade can back up Carter. They can't. If only they had someone like Nick Evans - oh, they do but he's overseas so they can't pick him. They've decided Adam Thompson can play 7 if Ritchie's missing. He can't. This could be good......
I've started a thread on the best XV who aren't going to the RWC.
[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/rwc-the-best-xv-whove-been-left-out ]HERE[/url]
The sight of Banahan running at the Welsh defence reminded me of a startled sheep trying to get back into a field. There's a gate open five metres down the road but the sheep keeps butting the same bit of fence over and over again.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/5495990/Britannia-must-not-rule-waves-at-World-Cup
From AA's link;
Nor do I much relish the idea of James Haskell or Chris Ashton joining England's sporting honours list. The self-regard with which they celebrate scoring tries sets a terrible example. But it seems part of the white-booted, look at me, gloating England rugby culture. The likes of Jonny Wilkinson and the remarkable Simon Shaw, 38 next week, are above such vanity, but there is far too much of it in the England dressing room.
Agreed.
But at the start;
It would put the game of rugby union back in the dark ages.
You mean, like playing the world cup in a predictable country, as opposed to trying to spread the message? (Not to mention a country in totally the wrong time zone for the rest of the world! ๐ )
You really will use every opportunity to have a dig at england won't you? It's getting a bit tiring (not to say pretty pathetic).
the quote about Banahan is spot on though and very funny.
I like Chris Ashton though, hugely overated but seems like he just enjoys scoring tries. Needs some work on his dives though, this is how you do it at about 15 seconds (best if your a gallants looser too obviously
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough above - I dislike the whole diving/showboating rubbish (Yes, even when it's Shane) but I really do appreciate the manner of Shaw as a player. Nice guy for a few beers as well. Tall, mind you....!
I think Flasy dislikes the All Blacks more than he does england ๐
you'll like this one at about 50 seconds in
face - Member
I think Flasy dislikes the All Blacks more than he does england
I've supported England in the past, but never New Zealand..... ๐
Now, if we're talking about Launceston.....
wrecker - MemberYou really will use every opportunity to have a dig at england won't you?
Well if you're English you should be used to it. I am. It's just a bit of banter ๐
That Banahan quote was hilarious.
I agree Haskell is a tw*t but I don't agree with the anti Ashton debate. He's a down to earth northern lad from Rugby League and if his OTT celebrations inspire thousands of kids to do the same thing on Sunday mornings then where's the harm?
The point of rugby is to try and score tries (take note England) so celebrating is a good thing.
As David Campese once said to Matt Duncan (dour Scottish winger) as he ran back to his half after scoring a try:
"For God's sake man! You've just scored a try. Bloody well smile!"
I'm all for banter namastebuzz, sometimes it's just barely disguised sniping. I have a feeling that if it was directed at wales dummies and teddy bears would be littering the valleys. FWIW I agree with the Banahan quote and the fact that it was funny. Not an international standard player but I do think he has potential. I've just read an article on the Telegraph site on Tuilagi. He seems to be a very down to earth chap who is genuinely excited to be playing for England.
Steven, yes most people look tall stood next to me, Rugby players especially so. I shold rent myself out for wedding photos.
I have a feeling that if it was directed at wales dummies and teddy bears would be littering the valleys
come on be fair my man love for Gavin gives poeple more than enough amunition.
One man's banter is another man's sniping Wrecker.
As Englishmen, we deserve all sniping we get from the provincials and the colonials.
I reserve most of my "banter" for the Jocks (because I live up here) but they seem to take it well.....
come on be fair my man love for Gavin gives poeple more than enough amunition.
At least Gav can actually play rugby though. Unlike England's midfield cloggers....
Teh reason England gets it so tight is the arrogance over the years. Such nonsence as "we are too good for the 6N"
English rugby is far more disliked that other aspects of englishness simply because of the breathtaking arrogance
Should we post the Nike "Grand Slam" video again?
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TandemJeremy - MemberTeh reason England gets it so tight is the arrogance over the years. Such nonsence as "we are too good for the 6N"
English rugby is far more disliked that other aspects of englishness simply because of the breathtaking arrogance
Well put, Sir.
CaptainFlashheart - MemberShould we post the Nike "Grand Slam" video again?
No need. I still watch it regularly in the belief that we won and Dublin didn't happen. ๐
I would say that the RFU don't do themselves any favours with their uptight stuffiness and the media annoy us all by talking up the team, but the fans demonstrate humility IMO. If you want to talk about english football; that's a different story.
I was Watching the England Wales game the twickenham one in the pub a few weeks back. At one point Shane Williams got smashed, picked up and driven backwards. Some fat bloke in an england top was laughing his man boobs off at this. To me it summed up all I need to know about a good many england supporters.
You didn't laugh when Tait got bagged by Henson then?
I laughed when Shane stopped Bananaman in his tracks. Is he the most useless international player ever?
laugh? No I didnt as I knew Tait was a lightweight. I laughed when he flattend that punchy tighthead whose name I forget in the same game though.
Cheering Shane Williams getting knocked about must get tiring
I'm all for banter namastebuzz, sometimes it's just barely disguised sniping. I have a feeling that if it was directed at wales dummies and teddy bears would be littering the valleys.
That's the whole point of being English - we're bigger than that and can take it ๐
As an ex-forward I like Englands power game and have to admit that currently our [s]girls[/s]centres look a bit flimsy. Hopefully the men can stick it to all the rest of the world though ๐
Although
is a bit rich coming from sweaty-land ๐Is he the most useless international player ever?
DaRC_L
No chance at all of winning the 2011 WC paying 2003 rugby. The world has moved on.
come on BTW - he is even more useless than Brendon Laney
So every nations fans laughs when an opposite player gets nailed then. Not unique to England supporters after all. Your experience with man boobs summed up absolutely nothing whatsoever. I wouldn't base my opinion of a nations sports fans on one individual personally but it's your choice. I try to have a broader view (luckily having worked in Cardiff for a number of years, I know that not all welsh fans are as narrow minded)
I am happy to admit that when it comes to rugby I loathe and detest the english. I would support the Taliban XV playing them ๐ cant help it it is in my genes. Born in Tredegar see mun.
I find it amusing when england supporters come up with this persecution complex.
You can say what you like about us Welsh it wont be anything we havent already said. ๐
TJ I've got to keep the banter up tho' ๐
I'm not a great fan of Banahan (I'm reserving the right to deny this conversation if he scores a few great tries) but having a good pack is still necessary to win games and I think England have a good pack, not great, but good strength in depth.
Get to the back of the queue!I am happy to admit that when it comes to rugby I loathe and detest the english.
Darn sarf here our supporting rules are different - England (obviously) then Northern hemispere vs Southern then the Underdog except if they are the SAffies.
I'm not really emotive/bothered about/by the welsh. On the other hand, I pray for the scots to lose every single game they play.
I pray for the scots to lose every single game they play.
Well then your prayers will be fairly successful. Why don't you pray for world peace or an end to famine instead?
Priorities, namaste, priorities.
I try to have a broader view (luckily having worked in Cardiff for a number of years
but the fans demonstrate humility IMO
On the other hand, I pray for the scots to lose every single game they play
Bit confused aren't you?
Nice selective quoting there.
The funniest thing about the sniping at the English is that the two most guilty of it are plastics anyway. ๐
every nations fans laughs when an opposite player gets nailed then. Not unique to England supporters after all. Your experience with man boobs summed up absolutely nothing whatsoever.
Oh but it does you see. I've been with Saffers and Kiwi's and even a frenchmen and have seen Shane get smashed by them all. They kind of chuckle but its not a big deal for them. The english fans seem to delight in it. I reckon its because they dont really understand Shane or what players like him represent and its why you have Trundle and Hopless in the centre.
The english fans seem to delight in it.
It could be a quantum effect - you as a Welshman having bigged Shane up in the first place ๐
whilst without any Welshmen about Englishmen just smile when Shane gets smashed.
you as a Welshman having bigged Shane up in the first place
Point is though smashing shane around in the tackle is nothing special, now had Wilkinson been able to tackle him when he scored the try rather than be left grasping thin air, that would have deserved a cheer.
No chance at all of winning the 2011 WC paying 2003 rugby
yes but we said that in 2007 and they got to the final and I reckon they are a better team now, I mean Balshaw isnt in the squad so something must have improved.
The english fans seem to delight in it.
Based on your experience of one fan? I would honestly think/hope that if you looked a bit deeper you'd find real that rugby fans (regardless of nationality) enjoy seeing Shane do what he does so well and wish him no ill will at all.
Based on your experience of one fan?
the clue is in my use of the plural
Some fat bloke in an england top was laughing his man boobs off at this
Boobs is the only plural in this sentence.
wrecker - Member
You didn't laugh when Tait got bagged by Henson then?
I did because the national press had been telling us all week that Tait was the next superboy of English rugby.....
The english fans seem to delight in it.
plural isnt it or am I missing something?
I didnt laugh I cheered myself hoarse but didnt laugh.
I didnt laugh I cheered myself hoarse but didnt laugh.
Given that it was Tanson, I'd hazard you did something else to yourself. ๐
Not in the pub!