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According to the Telegraph, the WRU have been impressed with Howley and he's favourite to replace Garland in 2019.

Personally, I think some fresh ideas would be good but I guess they see him as a safe pair of hands.

Nooooooooooooooooooo


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 8:32 am
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Tallie - Jamba made out it was a deliberate attempt to injure another player and to put him out of the game - but yes I let his constant anti scots bias from other threads get to me. His obvious contempt for scotland and the scots got to me.


 
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😯

Wow, thats some level of misplaced paranoia.

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Posted : 16/03/2017 9:18 am
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I wasnt even aware Jamba was Scottish.


 
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😉


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 9:27 am
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and once more THM posts directly after me presumably some snide dig at me.


 
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We will probably get reminded of this every week now. . I'm amazed Jambas hasnt been blocked yet with a silly message. The reminder about mine is at lest a week overdue.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 9:30 am
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And again? I don't see his posts just "teamhurtmore said something stupid" but it rather amuses me how often he posts directly after me.


 
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Yes correcting more lies and unfair/misplaced comments about another forumite, A very poor show at slandering Jambas with unfair criticism. Not unexpected though.


 
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According to the Telegraph, the WRU have been impressed with Howley and he's favourite to replace Garland in 2019.

Personally, I think some fresh ideas would be good but I guess they see him as a safe pair of hands.

Dear God no 🙁 if that is true then the WRU are deluded........


 
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The sad thing is making insinuations about another forumite that several have also noted are misplaced. That is really sad, if typical. Anyway I am out of this, don't want to spilt the thread responding to your paranoia.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 9:39 am
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TJ & THM - Could you take it offline - there are many of us that would quite like this Rugby thread to remain open.

Thanks for your understanding.


 
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Yes apologies and have done. Your joke was a much better deflection !


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 9:47 am
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Anywat rugby, THM I'm still waiting for you to tell me which 2 outstanding players I missed from a Lions suggestion.


 
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Kryton - no problem from me - I have him blocked. I just find it amusing that he continues to post after virtually every post I make despite the fact I don't see his posts


 
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I wasnt even aware Jamba was Scottish.

Is he?

Well that would explain his lack of knowledge about rugby then.....

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😉


 
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Le XV de départ tricolore :

Dulin - Nakaitaci, Fickou, Lamerat, Vakatawa - Lopez, Serin - Gourdon, Picamoles, Sanconnie - Maestri, Vahaamahina - Slimani, Guirado, Baille.

Les remplaçants : Chat, Atonio, Ben Arous, Le Devedec, Chouly, Trinh-Duc, Dupont, Huget

Some real quality throughout.


 
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Billy and Watson to start for England on Saturday with Hughes and Nowell on the bench (with the usual lot).


 
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Some real quality throughout.

Some Frenchmen as well!

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Posted : 16/03/2017 11:45 am
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I just find it amusing that he continues to post after virtually every post I make

You are paranoid. Happened once in the past 6 pages (some of which you've posted on a lot) and that was referring to someone else's post.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 11:47 am
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You are paranoid.

FFS can we get back to arguing about rugby......

Watson in for Nowell? Is Daley ok then, Jones really has a hard on for Daly doesnt he. When will we see him at 13 or 15 I wonder.


 
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Daly in on the wing having passed the tests.

Nowells obviously coming on for impact later. So we have Billy coming off the back straight at 9/10 that'll be interesting for him, and will keep the flankers busy no doubt.

I'm both excited and scared at the same time, especially as I'll be in the theatre watching a family show and will need to try to avoid the result until I can watch it at 8pm.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 12:30 pm
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[i]FFS can we get back to arguing about rugby.....[/i]

😆 I'm flying to France on Saturday, so gonna miss the game!
[i]When will we see him at 13 or 15 I wonder.[/i]
We need a new 15. I've always liked Brown, but he's been rubbish this 6N.


 
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Interesting that Watson is in for Nowell....both were good last week. Just shows the strength that we have now. As for Billy V....well, I'm glad he's playing for us rather than against us. On for he really is world class. Should be a good game, can't wait!


 
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I'm flying to France on Saturday, so gonna miss the game!

I'm flying back from Hong Kong and so am going to miss it all. I usually hate the idea of WiFi on planes, would have loved it for this one!


 
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Oops


 
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well, I'm glad he's playing for us rather than against us.

You mean like....

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Squad or coach or both?

Look at this team versus team that Wales beat in RWC 15

Brown - starter
Watson - starter
Joseph
Farrell - starter
Daly
Ford - bench
Youngs - starter
Marler - starter
Hartley - 🙂
Cole - starter
Launchbury - bench
Lawes - starter
Itoje
Haskell - bench
B Vunipola - starter

Totally different centre partnership after the Barritt/Burgess [s]debacle[/s] experiment, but largely the same team


 
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I always said that that RWC came 2 years too early. Look at how many caps the teams that were in the semi's had....and look at how many we now have. That combined with Farrell senior pissing everyone off/picking Burgess and Barritt ffs/Lancaster not recognising that Ford and Farrell at 10 and 12 was they way forward were the main issues!

By the time 2019 comes around l we should be looking very good....hopefully Daly or Watson will have replaced Brown at 15 and have a decent number of games under their belt there. George starting at 2, couple of backrowers wouldn't go amiss....hopefully Cole will still be on top of his game at tighthead in 2 years as that's a potential area of weakness too.


 
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Mostly coach, the game has also been moved towards them by the refs..much less jackling going on which England without a real 7 struggled with. The emphasis now is on big carriers more because of this and England have always had them and a set piece. The coach has improved the fire power behind a lot though.


 
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+ Put "[b]two outstanding players[/b]" together consistently in the same place, unlike his predecessor, releasing the rest of the back line (good forwards help there too admittedly!) 😉


 
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Other 1 is Ford? Not convinced by him TBH. Gets a lot of protection in defence and his hand held by Faz. Good player does well at what he's asked to do but any competant 10 would look good behind that pack.

Giving them the run they have held obviosly helps though.


 
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Got it!! Bravo.

I am not convinced either - especially with his defence - but people with greater experience, Sir C, Geeks and EJ seem to know better than both of us... 😉

I will save you the clip of their beautiful passing at Cardiff!!


 
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He's maybe the best option at 10 for England, especially with Faz at 12 but not sure I'd want him for the Lions...could well tour though.


 
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Cips/Faz could be interesting.


 
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I'm in São Paulo this weekend for the match - found an Irish bar to watch in. For added interest I believe it also has a strip club!!


 
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Cips/Faz could be interesting.

I hope thats not in a Lions context?!?!


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 3:06 pm
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Connor Murray out - big loss for Ireland

Ireland team: Payne; Earls, Ringrose, Henshaw, Zebo; Sexton, Marmion; McGrath, Best, Furlong; Ryan, Henderson; Stander, O'Brien, Heaslip.

Replacements: N Scannell, Healy, J Ryan, Toner, O'Mahony, L McGrath, Jackson, Conway.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 4:04 pm
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Taille - you are correct that I have taken a no arms tackle to be a spear. Happy to be corrected.

And your assessment of the rest of what I was saying isn't far off.

By the way given nipple high or above is now a high tackle and the Brown-Daly tackle showed us what happens when a big lad hits a smaller one around the bottom of the rib cage (and wraps with the arms), it must be getting very hard for big lads to tackle small ones without being blown up.


 
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Connor Murray out - big loss for Ireland

Yes thats a big factor, worse if the Irish scrum goes backward. I'm not too confident of the Irish backs vs England although I can earls/brown having an argument. The Irish pack needs to play well IMO.


 
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it must be getting very hard for big lads to tackle small ones without being blown up

basically they can't just fly in with a big hit anymore, they need to be careful with timing, and add a bit of finesse.

And the game will actually be better for it in the long run, despite us all loving watching a man-mountain batter one of the pretty boys.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 4:48 pm
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[i]nipple high or above is now a high tackle[/i]

It's still shoulder level - height of a high tackle hasn't changed.
Problem with Brown (ugh please no more! 😆 ) was he hit the ribcage and drove upwards. I still see nice big hits from the big lads and they drive straight and back, or down. And all is groovy.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 4:52 pm
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Dez - (and I am really not trying to start a fight) perhaps it's because that two planted feet, hit and drive up and through is exactly how I was taught to tackle that I find it strange.
Maybe I just qualified as an official "old fart" (copyright WCarling)


 
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It's not the hit which is the problem. It's the fact he lifted his legs, which is how you get someone beyond the horizontal and what they want to stop - for good reason!
If Brown had just wrapped his arms around Daly, he wouldn't have ended up upside down. He'd still have bloody well felt it, but the tackle would have been legit. I've have never been taught or seen or even heard of anyone else being taught to lift a tacklees legs, because it's illegal, not within the conduct of the sport and ****ing dangerous!


 
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