You'd think that as a professional, he'd know that he's not allowed to pull anyone out of the way by their face. That's not some little naughty law written somewhere near the end, it's a BIG ASS no-no!
Agreed. No excuses. None.
Dont want to labour the point as we clearly dont agree (again!!!) But have a look at this from 18mins. Look at how close the ref is and he even shouts to Franks, look at how the Aussie lock runs off without even touching his face or looking to lamp someone. The game had plenty of niggle so had this been a gouge I'm pretty sure a scuffle would have broken out...its an odd one.
Argentina beat the Boks
No action against Franks
No action against Franks
New Zealand biscuits must be excellent.
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I think the ref saw what was going on and dealt with it at the time. Shame that doesn't happen more often.
That SA no.7 though - how the hell did he make it to the end of the game? Dangerous and dirty bastard.
Argentina well deserving of the win.
Off to find some highlights of Argentina / SA, thanks
This whole thing stinks!!!
Look at this angle;
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This whole thing stinks!!!
Look at this angle;
No. Nothing wrong there. Nothing at all. New Zealand don't do nasty cheap shots, do they? So it can't be. Can it?
1:16 or so.
No. We can't besmirch the all powerful brand, can we?
It annoys the shit out of me. Such a great rugby team, but so often such cheating ****.
You can get you knickers in a twist all you like but the ref was right there looking at it and the Aussie didnt even blink so he may have, you know, not gouged him.
AA, the laws of the game are clear. They outlaw;
"contact with eyes or the eye area of an opponent"
Feel free to keep defending if you like.
Both England and Wales had to accept player bans for less than that one fairly recently, in Ashton and Francis.
Yes, no such thing as gouging in the rules now I don't think. A_a may well be right that there was no gouging or that the contact was very light, but within the rules as set out, and as per punishment received by others for far less he should still face a ban (and a pretty long one at that)
I don't think the AB's cheat any more than any other team (certainly not the boks) but they do seem to get away with some pretty clear cut stuff.
within the rules as set out, and as per punishment received by others for far less, he should still face a ban.
I don't think the AB's cheat any more than any other team (certainly not the boks) but they do seem to get away with some pretty clear cut stuff.
Yep. Agreed in full.
I have said from the start he should have got a ban for making contact with the eye area just dont think it was a bad case as the Aussue didnt react. At the very least he should have been cited and asked to explain himself and the Aussie asked his view. But the citing process is as bent as they come and a complete ****ing farce we all know that. Had that happend in the six nations a ban would have been handed out.
Agreed. Remember what Tom Francis got an 8 week ban for?
I just wish other "accidents" like booting people in the head because its within the same post code as the ball was taken as seriously.
As "seriously" as this has been?
I watched it again after this thread came up, watching the Australian player. He didn't move his head when Franks was "groping" his face, the ref moved round saw Franks and shouted something, which ended whatever was going on. The Ozzie, didn't even check who was behind him as the maul was breaking up, so my theory is it was a gentle loving touch and we can all let it lie.
Anyone got highlights of the SA no.7's high tackle count? 😆
Page 6 and Flash is slating the Kiwis, TJ is back, I have a warm glow that everything is going to be ok 😆
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As "seriously" as this has been?
No, as seriously as accidental contact in the air or accidental tip tackles.
Officiating is still all over the place, high tackles are often ignored, and no armed lunges at players legs seemingly OK. Any non-accidental contact at above shoulder height should be punished.
On another note, anyone else seen this;
https://twitter.com/eddiecowan/status/769827592119525377
I shouldn't laugh. I really shouldn't laugh.
@wrecker player safety, just making sure no one fell over it 😀
NZ "don't push the rules anymore than anyone else", not something I would ever say. I think they are by far the best in the world at pushing the rules and getting away with it. IMO they treat the Ref like another opponent to be tested. Now I don't blame them for that, in my sporting "career" I've had a coaching with an International Captain who told us we didn't commit enough fouls generaly (he watched a couple of matches as well as took sessions) and we certainly didn't push the ref to make decisions. Having heard this it certainly put into perective the matches I'd played against him as he was fouling me repeatedly and then going for the retaliation and decision/sympathy from the ref !
Now I am certain the IRB Refs are very well aware of this, but a red card for an AB 6 mins into the first match of the RC is not going to happen. Had Sam Warburton been in a Black shirt he'd never had been sent off - early minutes of a RWC semi, no way never going to happen.
I shouldn't laugh. I really shouldn't laugh.
I'm having trouble stopping. 😀
Cheers Wrecker!
Actually, I think the Hernandez knockout was about the only accidental collision - he missed with the high-swinging arm as Hernandez fell, out cold.
Can we have more of these two commentators please!!!
I imagine Guiness was invoved
English Premiership starts tonight.
Can't see past Saracens, Wasps and Exeter this season however as always I'm insanely hopeful that Leicester will return to old (winning) ways.
Lots of teams look like they want to move the ball about a bit, maybe the better playing surfaces are finally meaning it's possible in the Northern hemisphere as well...?
Anyway, on to the obvious best match of the weekend. Tigers v's Gloucester. Tigers by 5 for no reason whatsoever as I havn't seen anything of either team!
Bristol to win everything with the man god at 10. Or maybe beat one or two teams and stay up at best.
London Welsh face a winding-up order in the courts on Monday.
Sad times for an old club.
Bristol to win everything with the man god at 10.
oh i could kiss you!
Or maybe beat one or two teams and stay up at best.
you can bloody well kiss me 😉
I have just got BT sport for £22 a month with first three free,monthly contract as well so lovely HD prem games for me. Glaws will be my side this year methinks.
I'm a BT customer and I don't get HD!
BT sport is provided through the (BT) internet, and the connection is utter shite, the modem shits itself every single night, usually at a pivotal moment in a game. Can't wait to be rid of it!
I had looked at going with BT,but got dicked about so much before they had even installed it that I got Sky, I am glad you are saying that as I was tempted to try again as it is only £3 a month on top of their broadband.
You made the right decision duckers. BT is very shit. I'll go back to virgin I expect as their broadband is [i]proper[/i] fibre around here. Just waiting to see what happens with the line rentals stuff, it's supposed to be changing soon I think.
Tiggers getting humped, they look fresh out of ideas.
Although they've just scored 17 points....
Agree though. They don't look good!
Exeter Wasps should be superb
Tiggers playing smart now. Keeping it up front, they know the backs aren't up to much, not helped by the shit slow service from the 9. Who the **** is that anyway? Useless.
Goldilocks I believe.
Get Ben youngs on!
Ospreys score 50+ having heard a radio discussion on the state of the Pro 12 I fear for the competition.
I'm a BT customer and I don't get HD!
BT sport is provided through the (BT) internet, and the connection is utter shite, the modem shits itself every single night, usually at a pivotal moment in a game. Can't wait to be rid of it!
My BT "broadband" frequently delivered less than 1mps, the mobile on 3g was faster never mind 4g. Paying for Sport was thus a total waste of time. Cancelled the BT as I was going to be away for most of the summer. Will sort new provider this month and revisit Sport/Rugby
Never in doubt, Sam Harrison played great all the way through 😆
Gloucester utter muppets 🙁 who made the decision to go for the corner?
You've got to be *ing kidding me?!?!
Why oh why did we let Genge go? Holley is a *ing muppet!
No idea on Genge, very happy about it though. He's going to be at the top for a long time.
Can't blame him, Holley never started him, and Cockers saw what most bris fans had already seen. I'm so pleased Holley has gone, he really was a completely shit head coach.
Hopefully Gengey will come home one day, a lot do. It's the cider.
