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Wright and Gilmour not only became friends again, after Gilmour apologised for the legal and personal shit that surrounded the break up of the band, but they worked together for years before he died… writing songs together, singing and playing together on both later PF and solo stuff, touring the world together, getting him out on centre stage and leading crowd applause for him.
This is absolutely the case - if you watch the concert "David Gilmour - Remember That Night" (performed in 2006) it's evident that Gilmour has the utmost respect for him and leads the applause when introducing the band making sure that Wright gets the biggest cheer.
Waters speaks back. TLDR, he's not a Nazi he's a lifelong anti fascist. He's not an anti semite, he's anti Israeli government. The Germans, Israel and the mainstream media are all trying to cancel him.
Although I have sympathies with his views on Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, he comes across IMO as arrogant, hectoring and patronising. Only he can see what's going on in the world, the rest of us need to wake up. His emotions to camera feel a little contrived and he's a bit too ready to play the victim.
No mention of his denial of Russian war crimes in Ukraine, claims that the war is the US fault, tacit support for Assad's regime in Syria, blaming of ordinary jews in the west for Israel's policies and myriad wacky conspiracy theories.
I still love his music
He's still a dick.
His lifelong anti-fascism apparently doesn't extend to criticising Putin, the man who has coralled Russian labour, capital and bureaucracy to launch a genocidal war on Ukraine (cf. Sudetenland), invade Georgia, and continue an occupation of the Russian-speaking part of Moldova.
Come to think of it, what practical forms has his lifelong anti-fascism taken?
The major difference being that Brown and Morrisey made music worth listening to.
So ******* narrow minded. Morrisey and The Smiths genuinely created something new, and I can even get past Mozza’s dickishness, but Brown? Nothing he’s ever done has ever made an impression on me, I can’t name a single thing he’s ever done. Certainly I have nothing he’s ever been connected with in my music library of 60+ thousand tracks. He’s a complete nonentity, and made no significant contribution to music that I can ascertain.
How many millions of copies of DSOTM alone have PF sold?
I have to admit, when I saw PF on the 1974 Wish You Were Here tour, the band were pretty boring, zero interaction with the audience.
Nick Mason’s Saucerful Of Secrets, which plays all of the PF stuff up to DSOTM, however, are a phenomenal band, playing around 2+ hours of music across two sets - amazing gig.
PF. Old, decrepit and grumpily barstards. Literally sounds like 1/2 the members on here.
This thread is supposed to be about what sort of person Roger Waters is, not the music of Pink Floyd. I like their music up until The Wall. I utterly detest Waters, he's an utterly contemptible person.
I quite like it when musicians put their heads above the parapet. Look at how we benefited from Clapton's comments with Rock Against Racism. To accuse Walters of AS is to employ Humpty's approach to words meaning what he wants them to mean. When there's moves afoot to cancel a musician rather than engage generally means there's something there worth listening to and forming an opinion on. We should not bow to the defenders of apartheid and self-appointed arbiters of what we should and should not be allowed to listen to or all we'd get is Eurovision.
My objections to the PF are more along the lines of how they treated the singer on The Great Gig in the Sky but it's a great track nevertheless.
When there’s moves afoot to cancel a musician rather than engage generally means there’s something there worth listening to and forming an opinion on.
What if that question has been asked and the answer is "no"?
Mmm, who could have predicted this happening?
https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1707536509492957313
His music is good. He's a ****ing knob.
From that RS article
screenshots of a 2010 email Waters wrote to his team that suggested emblazoning his famous inflatable pig with a Star of David and insults like “dirty k***.”
That goes way beyond making valid criticisms of a states actions. (Assuming the email isn't fabricated)