This must be the first time a PM has 3 ex PMs sitting on the backbenches of their own party!
Ha!
May is there in both body and spirit.
johnson and truss are there in spirit only.
Give it 6 months and then check their attendance and voting records.
Rubbing my crystal balls tells me that one of them will have stood down - truss, I think; neither will have been regular attendees and, on the rare occasions they vote, it will be with gov.
Meh continuity arsehole isn't it.
A terrifying article from todays Guardian, just confirming what we can all now see as clear as day anyway
Braverman’s return shows how deeply Sunak is in hock to the hard right
The ERG headbangers are the ones really in power. Sunak is just their latest sock puppet
QT has just started - how long until Julia Hateful-Bastid says something hatefully bastidy?
Here comes the Rishi Sunak bounce - the first poll in two weeks which puts Labour on less than 50%, 49%.
Although two other polls since that one have Labour on over 50%, the most recent one has Labour on 55%.
It's surprising that Tory support in the BMG poll is only 26% considering this :
"Voters trust Rishi Sunak to handle the economy more than Sir Keir Starmer, and believe he would make a better Prime Minister"
Although it shouldn't alarm Labour too much as it can't have been based on anything as it was taken immediately upon him being declared to be the new Tory leader.
It is strange that it didn't translate into greater support for the Tories though.
Now JHB is a climate scientist
FFS
Watching QT too Julia Hearty-Brewrey has reinvented herself as Mail On-line in human form.
Tory MPs express concern over reappointment of Suella Braverman as home secretary
The very first job had Sunak had to do upon becoming Prime Minister was to appoint a Cabinet - he's managed to screw that up.
Thanks to pisspoor judgement, on the very first job he had to tackle, he has not only managed to follow in the now well established Tory tradition of giving the opposition open goals, but he has also achieved the remarkable feat of encouraging his own side to also kick a ball into the open goal.
His judgement is called into question by members of his own party within 3 days of becoming leader. And this was the man who was going bring in integrity after Johnson, and competence after Truss?
Truss very quickly learnt that you never get a second chance to make a first impression. It's hard to believe that Sunak also needed to learn that lesson.
ernie, what are your politics?
Who would you wish to see in power?
Who would be your preferred PM?
I ask because you're clear - I think - about who/what you don't want.
Here's your big chance - who and what do you want?
I was wondering the same Frank. I've not been able to work him out either.
He makes some interesting points sometimes but he seems to have a spectacular talent for disagreeing with those who agree with him.
You have to ask yourself, why would a man worth £750m want a job for £164k a year?
Do we?
How many £164k a year jobs get you into actual, proper history books?
Because after a while you get bored of coke and hookers and he wants a little job to keep himself busy!
You have to ask yourself, why would a man worth £750m want a job for £164k a year?
Power trip.
£750m is fine and you can swan around in some nice circles, potentially influence a lot of other rich / important people but you're having to pay for all that.
Donate here for return there, bribe this for return on that. It's all just transactional.
Far better to be the one actually pulling the strings in the first place! The one the other rich / important people come to, want to be with.
Plus you can probably swing some tax laws your own way. Oh wait a minute, he's already done that. What's that, his wife benefitted too? What a coincidence!
You have to ask yourself, why would a man worth £750m want a job for £164k a year?
Honestly if you have to ask yourself that question, you should probably get out more.
£750mill is his family wealth - most derived from his wife's connection with Infosys.
Never let the facts get in the way.
One of the reasons his wife's family is so rich is that there's no such thing as inheritance tax in India. It was abolished in 1985.
An idea I'm sure he'd like to introduce over here.
French TV on…
LE CHAOS ANGLAIS…
They’re successfully joining the dots between the three PMs of 2022, and laughing off the idea that the government can have a genuinely fresh start. They are pointing out though that Sunak will have a very hard time telling the people they must tighten their belts still further when he is so obviously rich.
Keep an eye on climate change issues with this “new” government… stopping fracking welcome, but new North Sea licenses need stopping, and renewables and storage ramped up fast…
Boris going to cop 27 now...
The man who would be king, filling the boots of the actual king.
Nice move Rishi.
https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1586438027198418944
At 16% that is the smallest Labour lead over the Tories for over a month but if repeated in a general election would still represent a huge Labour majority.
So not good news for the Tories especially as the Opinium methodology is particularly generous to them in the way they treat undecided former Tory voters.
Plus with Truss the human hand grenade gone, and the fact that Sunak should reasonably be expecting the new PM honeymoon bounce, this is probably as good as it is going to get for the Tories.
And when the Tories eventually reveal their "hard decisions" I can only see their popularity plummeting further.
Cool. Got an answer for Franks question further up?
Truss phone hacking & cover up is going to be another tory headache
Braverman scandals are going to drag on too
https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1586415240337846272?t=I_oWoNOrkf1bZSTbV6oLGA&s=19
I see also that Johnson is doing his best to undermine sunak...
https://twitter.com/secrettory12/status/1586446695134527489?t=DFsKN9iMzknTf-8bZVRqJw&s=19
tom - are you referring to my post directed at ernie which he has ignored?
ernie, what are your politics?
Who would you wish to see in power?
Who would be your preferred PM?
I ask because you’re clear – I think – about who/what you don’t want.
Here’s your big chance – who and what do you want?
He's usually assiduous in responding to posts referring to him but not this time.
Maybe he's just a provocateur.
He is actually Alexei Sayle
Here, visit his [url= https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001df6c ]Imaginary Sandwich Bar[/url] and fill in the gaps.
If I were totally honest, it would be awesome if Alexa was on here. Other than him not being IT, he is a very keen cyclist, so would fit in.
Back on topic though, can Sunak block Johnson from going to the COP summit in the same way as with Brian?it was never a good look that he said he was not going, but for you [very recent] predecessor to go instead just adds to the impression of chaos.
He is actually Alexei Sayle
If he was only 10% as funny as Alexei that would at least bring something to the threads.
Because after a while you get bored of coke and hookers
Another dream ruined!
You have to ask yourself, why would a man worth £750m want a job for £164k a year?
Au contraire. Why would someone want some tedious ForMoney job if they already had more money than they could spend?
They are pointing out though that Sunak will have a very hard time telling the people they must tighten their belts still further when he is so obviously rich.
Ah the old ‘all in this together’ line will get some reuse.
I’m wondering how long he’ll stay the course until he bails,I can’t see him hanging around when he really gets piled into and as said he does’nt need the money so can’t be held to stay on till election time.
It’s looking increasingly like Sunak may have plated a blinder with re-appointing the darling of the far right fruit loops as Home Secretary
Sir Roger Galeis reporting this morning that conditions for asylum seekers are absolutely desperate and squalid and he believes this to be a deliberate policy taken by the Home Secretary to try and deter people from coming to the UK
Looks like Cruella might be being made to own the inhuman mess that her and her equally vile predecessor created
She’s meant to be in Parliament this afternoon to be questioned by Yvette Cooper about the whole sorry episode
Do we think she’ll actually turn up? Or send a junior lackey (again)?
Either way, I doubt he’s surprised by the latest revelations, or be losing any sleep that it’s Braverman in the firing line
He is actually Alexei Sayle
If I were totally honest, it would be awesome if Alexa was on here.
"Alexa, turn on the lights."
"Turn them on yourself you fascist bastard!"
Alexa where is Baku....
binners
Full MemberSir Roger Galeis reporting this morning that conditions for asylum seekers are absolutely desperate and squalid and he believes this to be a deliberate policy taken by the Home Secretary to try and deter people from coming to the UK
Just a continuation of Theresa May's "success by failure" approach- the whole process has been intentionally run down for years, it's just that more recently we got past the point of understaffing, underfunding, and intentionally byzantine processes that constantly changed being enough, so they moved on to the really nasty stuff. But it's the same thought process. And it's never worked, at all.
The UK immigration problem is a really simple one. We have a system that can't deal with the numbers, not even close and so we have a huge backlog- of people, human beings- and that's terrible for everyone. Means we have more people to deal with, means they can't go on with their lives- can't get deported, but also can't contribute to society. Drives up costs insanely. We've basically built along the lines of "worst possible, for everyone" and it even produces news headlines about TOO MANY IMMIGRANTS!, it's a win for the government and a lose for literally everyone else, unless you happen to actually be a terrorist or fraudulent asylum seeker.
Braverman etc have the natural bully's instinct to make it worse on a small scale for individuals but it takes the destructive cleverness of a Theresa May to industrialise it.
Anyone watching the cosplaying hobgoblin in her statement to the house, she certainly hit all the dog whistling buzzwords such as “invasion, criminals, illegal’s”. An utterly despicable whitewashing of her actions in inflaming the pitiful treatment of asylum seekers.
Hard-faced doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Just a combination of dog-whistle racism and gaslighting
Hard faced and bloody evasive, she hasn't given a straight answer a question yet.
Using questions on Albania to take up time.
Dreadful.
We're a week in to Sunak's tenure and it's looking like a showdown between him and the ERG over Braverman. It's clear that she never misses an opportunity to bollix something up, while learning nothing and being unrepentant about it. She can't remain in post, but would any ERG-approved successor be any less inept?
I am thinking at one point in the not too distant future Cruella will admit to 'carrying out orders' then you will know the Tories have went full on nasty party.
Using questions on Albania to take up time.Dreadful
To summarise:
Would the Home Secretary agree with me that all Albanians should be drowned in the sea off Dover?
I do indeed agree with my right honourable friend and it’s a policy I intend to implement shortly
Rishi is neither politically smart enough and not ruthless enough to manage that pack of rabid pound shop facists.
His party discipline is already non existent, Suella ranting, some other scroat talking about litle chinese men, Boris doing either **** all or on a jolly to COP, Gove making promises Rishi can't keep, 30p Lee talking bollocks...
Its been a week.... and Rishi is already off Radar.
Rishi is neither politically smart enough and not ruthless enough to manage that pack of rabid pound shop facists.
A point expanded on by
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/01/rishi-sunak-errors-prime-minister-britain-week
What a surprise
https://twitter.com/charlotterlynch/status/1587346765107322882?t=5sLk0WS7TXPzfYQwRxUf-g&s=19
Rishi is neither politically smart enough and not ruthless enough to manage that pack of rabid pound shop facists.
Sunak's position as leader of the Tory Party is utterly secure, there is absolutely zero chance that he will be replaced before a general election.
Due to totally self-inflicted crises the Tories have had 3 different leaders over the last 3 months, the consequences of these crises have been truly devastating for them with an unprecedented collapse in their support.
Despite their apparent new-found ability to shoot themselves in the foot by creating these completely unnecessary crises I can't see them even considering creating yet another one by moving against their new current leader.
With that in mind since becoming PM Sunak hasn't imo had to look over his shoulder, the Tories aren't going to replace him. He didn't have to make Braverman Home Secretary, he doesn't have to keep her as Home Secretary, and if he doesn't the Tories won't sack him.
Instead of automatically assuming that Sunak either lacks the acumen to sack Braverman, or is having his arm twisted by others not to, perhaps more consideration should be given to the possibility that politically he shares a great deal her and that he actually wants her to be Home Secretary, a possibility which few seem to want to entertain - I have no idea why.
