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shhheeeshhhh - (warning - major spoilers if you've not seen it yet)
Did no one pay attention during the film!!!!? - there were two guys who got infected by the 'worms'. One, the biologist had his arm broken, and the worm went inside him in his helmet (he was still alive) infecting him, the other the ginger geologist had his helmet sprayed with acid which then melted into his face (ow!). This coupled by the fact the atmosphere in the ruins was toxic killed him. The group then find only the ginger haired guy, dead, with a worm in his mouth later on after the storm had cleared. The Biologist (with the broken arm) was missing still, we assume he ran off after being infected by the worm.
A bit later [u]the biologist[/u] (not the ginger geologist) turns up randomly out side the Prometheus, he's been fully infected by the worm and the goo and goes on a berserker rampage killing off most of the crew.
Assuming by the berserker rampage the worms are completely different 'species' to the face hugger's - the worm directly controlled the biologist in a parasitic way, turning its host on its own kind and providing him with superhuman strength and agility - and all this with a broken arm? well did any one else notice the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would make much difference either.
er it was the geologist who went on the rampage not the biologist.
shhheeeshhhh - (warning - major spoilers if you've not seen it yet)Did no one pay attention during the film!!!!? - there were two guys who got infected by the 'worms'. One, the biologist had his arm broken, and the worm went inside him in his helmet (he was still alive) infecting him, the other the ginger geologist had his helmet sprayed with acid which then melted into his face (ow!). This coupled by the fact the atmosphere in the ruins was toxic killed him. The group then find only the ginger haired guy, dead, with a worm in his mouth later on after the storm had cleared. The Biologist (with the broken arm) was missing still, we assume he ran off after being infected by the worm.
A bit later the biologist (not the ginger geologist) turns up randomly out side the Prometheus, he's been fully infected by the worm and the goo and goes on a berserker rampage killing off most of the crew.Assuming by the berserker rampage the worms are completely different 'species' to the face hugger's - the worm directly controlled the biologist in a parasitic way, turning its host on its own kind and providing him with superhuman strength and agility - and all this with a broken arm? well did any one else notice the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would mack much difference either.
It was the ginger geologist that attacked the Prometheus and you never actually saw him injesting a worm, just burnt by the acid and coming into contact with the black goo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(film)#Plot
Sean Harris as Fifield:
A geologist who has become unstable after many missions.
Inside the structure, Fifield and Milburn are attacked by snake-like creatures. Milburn is killed, and corrosive fluid from one of the creatures melts Fifield's helmet, exposing him to the leaking dark liquid.
A mutated Fifield attacks the hangar bay and kills several crew members before being killed himself
I struggle with long sentences. But a skim read of this admirably sums up why, despite loving both Alien and Prometheous, if anyone asked if I did, my reply would be "no. I can't ****ing stand any science fiction crap". Because its somewhat obvious that its a leading question which would lead, with spirit-crushing predictability, into all this pointless drivel
Its a film. Quite a good one. Other things you may want to look up: a sense of perspective, and maybe a life too, while you're at it. Dear god! 🙄
i stand corrected 😳
it was almost a week ago that i saw it, but i seem to remember that you see a worm remove itself from the geologists mouth.....
One question I haven't seen asked.
What did David say to the Engineer? Could that have been the reason he attacked them or would have have done it regardless?
The beauty of Alien, was the simplicity of the storytelling. Far too many dead ends and unresolved/unexplained threads in Prometheus.
The Scottish medic was ****ing awful and why not just cast an old person [John Hurt?] as Weyland rather than a young fella in a latex mask. [yes, I saw the viral TED talk]
Ultimately, I didn't really care for any of the characters, there was not enough time developing a dymanic between them. Both Alien and Aliens had the post stasis meal to build that and develop the characters a bit. Prometheus lacked that, it spent more time showing gloop falling into a cup than character development, apart from one exchange between speccy and ginge.
If I'd known beforehand that the guy from Lost was involved, I'd have been more wary or watching it. It could have been great, with more script/plot revisions, but I felt it was sloppy on the whole.
Visually stunning. Fassbender was brilliant too. I had high hopes, but the result was in line with expectations, sadly. That said, if they do another, I'd probably go and see it anyway. 😀
The Scottish medic was **** awful
She had a couple of the best lines in the film if you ask me, although her character wasn't exactly well developed.
She had a couple of the best lines in the film if you ask me, although her character wasn't exactly well developed.
Appalling acting, stilted delvery, shite haircut. 🙂
why not just cast an old person [John Hurt?] as Weyland rather than a young fella in a latex mask
apparently there was a deleted scene of David and Wayland having a chat when Waylend was in the sleep chamber, in this scene he would have been a young Wayland, just before David bumps into Charlie Theron and says Wayland told him to 'try harder'. Also remeber its part one of a series of films (hopefuly), so the Wayland character may reappear in a veraiaty of ages or guises.
[i]the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would make much difference either. [/i]
Growing to be eight foot tall from 5 foot something will do that to you. If you remember, the guy standing on the loading bay ramp watched him stand up and ended up looking upwards by some significant way. So not only do the worms give you steel skin and superhuman strength (not to mention an inate desire to kill all humans), they also cause your back to grow 17 more vertebra.
I entirely accept this as a possibility.
Reading this thread reminds me a bit of people trying to fathom out and justify why the Bible doesn't always seem logical 😀
the Bible doesn't always seem logical
dont even go there..... 😆
plus the opening scene was a complete waste of time and crap
The more I read this thread, the more I want to go back and see it again. I loved it. Less immediately action orientated (in a space commandos shoot em up sort of way) than I expected. But I now think its all the better for it.
plus the opening scene was a complete waste of time and crap
Haven't we established that the opening scene was the Engineers "seeding" earth with their DNA and creating (human) life on earth?
Kind of important...
I understand what was happening but it was a poor scene.
Have you watched masterchef? They make fake caviar by dripping globules of stuff into a bowl of cold water. It's the height of modern cooking.
That's what he was eating, fake caviar.
If we transpose this to our society, we can see Ridley is merely commentating on the rise and fall of human achievement and is prophesising the explosion of our own egocentricity into a festing pile of worm juice.
i would have like to see the meeting where they decided who got to die to seed a planet.
Obviously the guy who plays the jazz flute to fly the space ship has got a cast iron excuse not to eat some black spunk like stuff and then rot into a waterfall.
I bet it's always the guy on work experience.
What if the spaceship flies off and he realises he's left the pot of caviar on his bedside table?
they ring the school to say he wasn't listening and the head teacher gives him a written warning which goes in his permanent record.
plus the opening scene was a complete waste of time and crap
😯 a good scene that!
I thought it was cheesey and contrived. Plus no one like to see the work experience boy crumble up after eating rancid caviar. Obviously wasn't from a beluga fish.
I was quite pleased to leave the cinema and go for a beer when it finished
7/10 as it's Friday and I'm happy
what's weird is, I knew all along it wouldn't live up to (my) expectations, i'm not surprised at all by the general feeling of 'meh' about the movie, yet i'm still compelled to go and watch it.. which is exactly what i'm doing this evening.
I'm even going to watch it in 3D despite being told it's a waste of time.
What is it about the clever marketing that brainwashes me so?..
^
Me too...
4 out of 10 for me. A little disappointed.
thought start was good misen
whole film yes coulda been better deffo.
but knew miself it werent gonna be what i hoped for,but it turned out ok,and i enjoyed it,and had me thinking after which i like in a film,
it was awful, bar the opening scene which was very good.
Lots of little clips which weren't particularly well thought out. Nothing of consequence seemed to happen and it was all a bit "meh".
Plus it was the first film I've watched in 3d and that was as underwhelmimg as I expected.
different film this
but Moon was better...acting the works..
It was my first 3D movie too,
Compared to the 'kids birthday card 3D effects in the Spiderman trailer' that proceeded it I thought it's 'use' of 3D was vastly superior - though I did spend allot of time taking the glasses on and off to see if I was getting 'it' / judging parallax angle 🙂
Watching alien now with the kids in preparation for us all seeing it tomorrow. Yes the geek gene lives on.
Funny how alien has dated, I shat myself watching it at their age but they are all a bit meh.
On the other hand all their mates are raving about prometheus.
As long as its better that avatar i'll be happy.
Just seen it - thoroughly enjoyable, but sci fi in general requires a bit of suspension of disbelief, and this was no different.
Biggest plot hole for me was to wonder why the constellation depicted in the cave paintings etc didn't direct them to the home world of the space jockeys, rather than some desolate holding base for pots of DNA goo.
FWIW, my interpretation was that the individual SJ at the start was seeding earth Promethean style - ie unauthorised, the results (humans) are seen as a problem and the mission of the ship at the end was to wipe the slate clean. Unfortunately, they local worms (which we see) had got into the goo, with rather unfortunate results for the SJs on the base.
Some cracking scenes though - the bit in the medipod thing was fantastically nightmarish. Definitely worth the admission money.
Biggest plot hole for me was to wonder why the constellation depicted in the cave paintings etc didn't direct them to the home world of the space jockeys, rather than some desolate holding base for pots of DNA goo.
The cave paintings were a warning not an invitation
if the sj that seeded earth was a maverick/rogue then why was he dropped off by a space ship?
His mum dropped him off. She thought he was just going to play by the stream.
Are we nearly there yet?
"5 more millenia"
anyone rember the star trek tng episode, where alll the huminoid's find a map in their joint dna, then goto a planet where they find a message from they're creators. that was a million times better than this crap.
why are new films so crap. please, can the new batman be as good as the 2nd.
[i]why are new films so crap. please, can the new batman be as good as the 2nd. [/i]
God I hope not. The dark knight was the best one by far, not because of batman but because of the joker. Heath was awesome.
yeah just got back from watching.
i now understand that:
a) my hunches on over hyped movies are ALWAYS correct.
b) Ridley seems to have gotten lucky a couple of times in the past, and appears to be losing the plot, Lucas style
c) Blade Runner 2 will cause mass suicides amongst Sci-Fi freaks if he rapes the original story as much as he no doubt will.
d) many of you formulate some very daft ideas when left facing gaping plot holes
e) many of you are easily pleased (this is probably a good thing)
f) Fassbender is ace, and will be regarded one of the greats in the near future
g) great movies are so few and far between now, but that's why we should embrace them when they come along. Without the sour the sweet would never taste so good.. etc
In summary, visually, its a great movie. That's where the great ends. If you think of it in 'ripping yarn action buster' terms, and switch your brain off, you'll probably have a good time.
Paradoxically, It also seems to be trying too hard to be a thinking mans movie, but the magic just isn't there.
I blame the **** from Lost. Him and a slightly senile Ridley.
5/10 I'm feeling generous.
good summary slimjim
slimjim +10 !
one of the lines from the film i almost laughed out at was also in the trailer
?"If you don't stop it, there won't be any home to go back to!"
..umm why?? the film didnt make us think the SJ's were a threat due to the unexplained goo, the unexplained 'running SJs videos', the unexplained Theron characters 'agenda' , the unexplained reason for the them to destroy us all and actively seek out the last human alive to try and kill her and (as said above) the unexplained reason why they must have come back over generations on earth and left diagrams of where they were.....
a good read [url= http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html ]here[/url]- even if you dodnt like the film....
heres my fav quote for a taster...
Yeah. The reason the Engineers don't like us any more is that they made us a Space Jesus, and we broke him. Reader, that's not me pulling wild ideas out of my arse. That's RIDLEY SCOTT.
The FX are good, the operation scene was great but the movie was ok.