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She could sell Balmoral. I'd chip in, the nation (as in the people not the gov) could buy it back and rewild it. Rent out rooms and have a few bothies.
The Queen will not bankroll him. He may end up with accommodation on a royal estate somewhere in return for keeping his head down for the rest of his life, but he's done with the royal family now. Lots of people want to make this about the Queen and the Royal family, but this is Andrew's own making, and the Firm is more important. Rightly, in this situation.
The link to Trump and working at his estate is interesting. Not being funny, but the Epstein pay off wasn't huge, so how is she funding herself now? Has anyone else paid her off?
Not a criticism of her, given what she went through.
If the qyueen does not bankroll him he has no way of paying lawyers and of paying the comp. He is broke. Getting money for favours for him is gone. He is going to need millions
She could sell Balmoral. I’d chip in, the nation (as in the people not the gov) could buy it back and rewild it. Rent out rooms and have a few bothies.
Be careful what you wish for - if she sells it, it would almost certainly not be as a special arrangement for the people of Scotland so I'd expect some Russian, Saudi, or other such money would be used to make the exact opposite of your dream!
Not being funny, but the Epstein pay off wasn’t huge, so how is she funding herself now?
I would assume the lawyers would be working on a no fee to win basis.
If she is seen using what is effectively public money to pa his legal debts that would be a very big nail in the coffin of the monarchy.
Here's hoping!
It's a murky thing the finances of the Saxe-Coburgs, er sorry, the Windsors. Queenie is wealthy in her own right with a top up from us, the plebs. Of course how she became wealthy and the generational avoidance of inheritance tax to allow that to happen is another story. But agreed, what probably counts more is how it is seen, rather than the strictly legal situation.
The link to Trump and working at his estate is interesting. Not being funny, but the Epstein pay off wasn’t huge, so how is she funding herself now? Has anyone else paid her off?
Lawyers will be working on no win no fee basis. I imagine she has a job.
If the qyueen does not bankroll him he has no way of paying lawyers and of paying the comp. He is broke. Getting money for favours for him is gone. He is going to need millions
He's selling a £75 million chalet.....
Virginia Giuffre would be unlikely to accept a “purely financial settlement” to end her sexual assault civil lawsuit against the royal, her lawyer has said.
Boies said: “I think it’s very important to Virginia Giuffre that this matter be resolved in a way that vindicates her and vindicates the other victims.”
I hope she does just that – make that despicable leech publicly admit what he did, make him responsible for his actions.
He’s selling a £75 million chalet…..
If only. Shit-hole's only worth £17 million. And there was £6 million outstanding in debt so it's only gonna net him £11 million, add a fire sale tax and the price keeps dropping....
Whod want to buy a chalet that sweaty andy had used !
Im sure andy & queenie will make a great effort to convince us all that shes not paying his legal fees
What's the old legal phrase? Play silly games win silly prizes.
Welcome to the real world Andrew - a world where you have no authority or experience, you're broke, you're f*cked and are going to be eaten alive.
@kimbers i'd get it steam cleaned as part of the fixtures and fittings contract...maybe some kind of exorcism too! 😀
you’re f*cked and are going to be eaten alive
I think the Prince will be just fine. He got something like 15m from the sale of Sunninghill Park so even at a conservative 4% return he had 600k income from that in recent years. Most of his holidays/luxury lifestyle was provided/gifted by others. Some of those friends will rally round, others will cut ties but I think he is very long way from being on the street with or without his mums help.
Instantly recognisable pariah, hopping fences to play on the back nine of a municipal golf course at dusk, barred from Pizza Express. That's pretty shit.
I mentioned it before but, if you haven't already listened to it, John Sweeneys podcast, Hunting Ghislaine is excellent. They dig into Randy Andys finances a bit, including the purchase of that chalet. There is also a suggestion that the photo of him and Epstein was orchestrated, Epstein paid off some of Fergies debt in return for a photo with the Prince to help his creditability rating.
Andy won't be poor by any real world standard or definition...
BUT, he will most definitely consider himself poor, both financially, in perceived influence and in the simple ability to do as he pleases without many questions being asked.
That pleases me greatly.
Sometimes in various threads on here, people directly point out that having been born in the UK we have effectively won the lottery of life.
Andrew won the lottery, Euro Millions (rollover) and a Daily Mail cottage in the Cotswolds.
He had it all and could (legally) have shagged pretty much anyone that he wanted to. That still wasn't enough for him.
The last episode of the BBC's Americast has an excellent interview with the US defence lawyer about Andy's options - (from about 27 mins in). The first bit is not up to their normal standards, but the interview is outstanding. It is done by someone who understands the system and what the options mean.
Worthwhile listening - BBC Americacast 13 Jan
Surprised she's still alive tbh. The Royals don't take kindly to people standing up to them and usually that only ends in tragedy ala Princess Di.
Looks like Randy Andy has been cut off.
The Royals are officially above the law so don't expect anything to happen to him other than having to pay out some of his benefit money.
Despite all this we'll still no doubt see a bunch of brainless morons with their little flags lining the streets, waiving like demented seals the next time the evil rancid hag is out on parade or one of the other oddballs in that family.
I weep for those people. Imagine being one of that lot...*shudders
Surprised she’s still alive tbh. The Royals don’t take kindly to people standing up to them and usually that only ends in tragedy ala Princess Di.
Do you not think it would start getting a bit obvious if the Royal Family had everyone killed that had crossed them?
Gobuchal - just post the link from the share button on youtube
Paraphrased from ****ter:
"Prince Andrew must really be sweating now.... or not sweating, like some kind of Schrodingers nonce"
Do you not think it would start getting a bit obvious if the Royal Family had everyone killed that had crossed them?
I am struggling to see too many downsides.
“Prince Andrew must really be sweating now…. or not sweating, like some kind of Schrodingers nonce”
ha ha ha ha
Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages, and will no longer be called HRH
Ha ha ha
Here’s the link
BBC News - Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59987935
Well I guess that answers that question
If I understand correctly, she has to show that the Royal Lying Git
a) knew that she was being trafficked
b) that she was under the legal age for sex in the country where the sex happened
It would have been fairly easy for his legal team if he'd just admitted having sex with her to show that as he's such an entitled prick that he wouldn't question at all an attractive young woman wanting to have sex with him, he's a prince after all.
Prince Andrew loses military titles and patronages, and will no longer be called HRH
I wonder how much they'll shun him? Or will they leave him out in the cold for a bit before finding a way for him to redeem himself
Or will they leave him out in the cold for a bit before finding a way for him to redeem himself
I would think thats a lost cause. Its not really a major change from the last couple of years though since he was being hidden away anyway. Just formalising the fact there is no obvious way back.
They don't give a flying **** about what he has done, they have known for years, this has been rumbling on for over a decade.
This is about protecting the royal family from the ongoing publicity which they now fear has a realistic chance of damaging their power and influence.
They are ****ing scum.
I would think thats a lost cause. Its not really a major change from the last couple of years though since he was being hidden away anyway. Just formalising the fact there is no obvious way back.
Yep, the Royal family is actually not as out of touch as we think they are
Guessing there's a reason why having him without titles is beneficial for the current trial, can't see the Queen requesting, or Andrew handing back his titles for any other reason.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out, seems a bit of a weird timing and thing to do, unless his daughters are in line to take over, or similar?
I’m looking forward to a future series of The Crown!
HMP Nonce Andrew
With charles next for the top job there will be no way back for andrew; this fits perfectly with charles' reported wish to slim down the monarchy.
andrew's daughters aren't in line to take over anything.
So
If he loses the case(which is likely) that indicates a crime has been committed. So do the UK police then have the authority to act upon those crimes and charge him with sex offences.
It doesn't matter if he was abroad at the time, a crime committed by a British national abroad is still a crime under British law, especially sex crimes.
On the sex offenders register for sure, and forced to undertake a sex offenders course in admitting the guilt and understanding that they, not the victim are the ones at fault.
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If he loses the case(which is likely) that indicates a crime has been committed. So do the UK police then have the authority to act upon those crimes and charge him with sex offences.
It doesn’t matter if he was abroad at the time, a crime committed by a British national abroad is still a crime under British law, especially sex crimes.
On the sex offenders register for sure, and forced to undertake a sex offenders course in admitting the guilt and understanding that they, not the victim are the ones at fault.
The criminal threshold for evidence is much higher than the civil threshold in this trial, so unlikely, I'd have thought.
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"On the sex offenders register for sure, and forced to undertake a sex offenders course in admitting the guilt and understanding that they, not the victim are the ones at fault."
There goes shelf stacking in Slough Morrisons...
Can the mods change the title of this thread as it's out-of-date😁