The 95 year old dear at the bottom of our street who I was in her garden as they marched past certainly made a few comments. She stopped when I said hello to a few in the March who knew me. I’m not sure but maybe she’s Ninfan’s granny.
Doubt it - my granny's dead and my mums garden is flat as a pancake (not uphill)
Love the “I’m not ______ but” replies though
Well, as I've commented on here before - I've certainly had a mans penis in my mouth, but I don't particularly feel the need to run around attaching rainbow flags to myself or marching around in a crop top blowing a whistle about it. Nor do I think that taxpayers money should be taking police and fire brigade off their duties in order to 'celebrate' any particular political or social campaigning (in much the same was as I'd be equally repulsed by police officers attending a BNP or stop the war rally in uniform)
but I don’t particularly feel the need to run around attaching rainbow flags to myself or marching around in a crop top blowing a whistle about it
And for that we are all grateful.
Doubt it – my granny’s dead and my mums garden is flat as a pancake (not uphill)
Ah maybe not then.
And for that we are all grateful.
Small mercies.
Love the “I’m not ______ but” replies though
Is there any?
If it helps you sleep better, Ninfan, the police officers in the parade are largely off-duty. They actually want to be there because they know it helps them promote a better relationship with the community.
For King’s Lynn, there will be a number of officers allocated to the march for safety duties but they won’t be particularly “visible” on the march.
Rachel
If it helps you sleep better, Ninfan, the police officers in the parade are largely off-duty.
Brilliant.
I presume they are free to turn up in uniform, off duty of course, to support an EDL or anti-abortion rally as well?
Awww bless little Ninfan he’s losing his troll skills.
A lot of people were "throwing shade" (LOLZ) on Ride for London. Apparently they don't even pay road tax, are dead white males etc. Personally I don't want to go out with my family and have men in tight fitting revealing clothing displaying their genitalia in front of me. I can get all that at home.
Lucky you.
If it helps you sleep better, Ninfan, the police officers in the parade are largely off-duty. They actually want to be there because they know it helps them promote a better relationship with the community.
Do you know that for sure? Wondering if Bruneep is a police officer, he appears to essentially be being blackmailed to attend! Promoting tolerance (if that is what this is) can only be positive, so I understand why the Police want to show that their officers are supporting it. I think you are rather overestimating the tolerance of the individual officers though. Some will actively support it; some will support the notion, but dislike being 'forced' to attend; and some will be total bigots who have to put on a brave face for the sake of their job.
What's a 'dead white male' (beyond the literal description)?
Wondering if Bruneep is a police officer
No he's a Construction Worker I think. Or maybe a Red Indian.
I’ve certainly had a mans penis in my mouth
It doesn't count if it's your own
I'm not sure donald's post got the recognition it deserved earlier. Chapeau, donald.
Ninfan posts he has had a mans penis in his mouth,
some of us just like to say tounge in cheek
The march was in memory of Mr Michael Causer who was murdered by thugs in Liverpool 10 years ago, sadly over the years in all parts of the uk , many men and women have been killed or seriously hurt, for just being gay and enjoying sex with a same sex partner, something which straight having sex with a oposite sex partner accept as normal.
Ninfan when you go out with your g/f or wife, perhaps show no signs of love, no touching, no kissing etc, worry about being attacked, swore at spat at etc, and according to press reports this still happens frequently, thats what PRIDE is all about.
Bruneep is actually a budgie smuggler
is there a black market for budgies that they need to be smuggled 🤔
No he’s a Construction Worker I think. Or maybe a Red Indian.
🙂
Glad the message is spreading into the Provences TBH. It’s always been quoted that London moves 5years ahead, well this is probably 10yrs in this instance.
Pride event in Manchester has been going on since early 2000s. I think we are provincial. Well, we must be, we're not London.
Ninfan when you go out with your g/f or wife, perhaps show no signs of love, no touching, no kissing etc, worry about being attacked, swore at spat at etc, and according to press reports this still happens frequently, thats what PRIDE is all about.
That really doesnt explain to me why police and firemen should be there, in uniform (paid or not) when they would not be allowed to do the same for any other socio-political campaign or rally.
As I said above - why shouldn’t they also attend EDL rallies in uniform? or maybe animal rights? How long before we have Vegan police officers walking around with stalks of broccoli sticking out of their epaulettes?
Once you fracture the separation between the police (impartial enforcers of the law as written) and ethical/moral/political campaigning for the latest bandwagon (whatever it may be) then we are all worse off. Let’s now look at a scenario where someone, maybe you, is (falsely) accused of a homophobic hate crime - how would you feel if two days before the investigating Officer had been dancing round in uniform with a rainbow flag proclaiming his gay pride and telling us how evil homophobia was?
Would you feel you were going to get a truly impartial and fair investigation of the allegations against you?
still, you won’t want to think about this, far too complex and nuanced an uncomfortable argument. Probably easier to just dismiss me as another evil right wing homophobe.
Let’s now look at a scenario where someone, maybe you, is (falsely) accused of a homophobic hate crime – how would you feel if two days before the investigating Officer had been dancing round in uniform with a rainbow flag proclaiming his gay pride and telling us how evil homophobia was?
Bit like how they are impartial in racism and murder inquiries?
As I said above – why shouldn’t they also attend EDL rallies in uniform?
How are the EDL going at being tolerant and inclusive these days?
Bit like how they are impartial in racism and murder inquiries?
Yep. +1
Probably easier to just dismiss me as another evil right wing homophobe.
Honestly, you aren't doing a great job of persuading people otherwise :-).
It's not really a campaign, it's more a festival/carnival/celebration..
I've been to a few and I've always thought it was a fun atmosphere, and I say that as a straight man.
Sure it's bourne out of something once being illegal and socially unacceptable becoming ok, but that shouldn't detract from the fact it's a good carnival/festival..
As I said above – why shouldn’t they also attend EDL rallies in uniform?
The police certainly attended the EDL/Tommy Robinson march in Leeds the other month, bunch of drunk racists causing a public nuisance and intimidating members of the public that were just going about thier business.
There is literally no comparison unless you're Mr biggoty mc bigot face. I know what crowd I'd feel safer in and it's not the one charged up on Stella's and strongbow dark fruits, threatening violence.
Let’s now look at a scenario where someone, maybe you, is (falsely) accused of speeding – how would you feel if two days before the investigating Officer had been dancing round in uniform with a anti-speeding flag proclaiming his hate for speeding and telling us how evil speeding was?
There is literally no comparison unless you’re Mr biggoty mc bigot face.
He’s a troll and a crap one.
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Well?
I’d be comforted to know he is deliberately trying to be a crap troll, and doesn’t actually believe any of that nonsense above 😁
even a christian group protesting
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Bit like how they are impartial in racism and murder inquiries?
Exactly what I was thinking! Also It's not about politics or opinions. It's a fact that being homophobic is not acceptable today but that people have suffered in very recent history but that they no longer have to suffer due to loving the wrong type of person.
That really doesnt explain to me why police and firemen should be there, in uniform (paid or not) when they would not be allowed to do the same for any other socio-political campaign or rally.
its not a socio political rally, its a support group for a large group of people who have been repressed by society in general previously.
Bit like how they are impartial in racism and murder inquiries?
Look whats just just happened with disclosure in a whole series of rape cases...
How are the EDL doing at being tolerant and inclusive these days
see, there you go, proving my point - by moralising the issue you manage to undermine the very structure of the law. A few years back homosexuality was viewed as morally unacceptable, to many eating meat is morally unacceptable, how about prostitution ?
If your defence to marching for one ‘cause’ is that it’s morally acceptable but that another cause isn’t, then how can you expect those who are the real victims of intolerance and violence as part of their immoral lifestyles to trust the police to protect them?
Probably easier to just dismiss me as another evil right wing homophobe.
Nope. You’re just an attention seeking oddball
see, there you go, proving my point – by moralising the issue you manage to undermine the very structure of the law. A few years back homosexuality was viewed as morally unacceptable, to many eating meat is morally unacceptable, how about prostitution ?
In many places eating meat is not part of the culture, in others prostitution is legal, do you have a point about when being a bit of a fascist will become legal?
how about prostitution ?
Last year had the pleasure of working for some prostitues, lovely ladies with a great sence of humour and customer service,, when i asked them why they did it, they all said where else could i earn so much cash so easily, it pays for things for my kids, it pays for holidays etc, and they did have a varied clientele, hopefully some day it will be made legal and the sleeze factor taken away, just like gay clubs and bars are opening around towns, and straight people visit them, for secret relationships, or just a change of scenery.
its a support group for a large group of people who have been repressed by society in general previously.
Isnt that how Al Quaida view themselves?
gay people are not usually classed as terrorists
Isnt that how Al Quaida view themselves?
Ninfan earlier.
What exactly is our resident troll comparing Pride events to? Really? No. Really?!?
hopefully some day it will be made legal and the sleeze factor taken away,
which is exactly why you would hope the police would be entirely blind and ambivalent to what is or isn’t morally acceptable and enforce the law as it’s written. As soon as you allow the police to express an opinion and turn up in uniform to support ‘good’ causes then they become arbiters of what is and isn’t to be tolerated or encouraged. you are opening Pandora’s box
What exactly is our resident troll comparing Pride events to? Really? No. Really?!?
The Nuremberg rallies, obviously. Lots of nice smart uniforms and colourful flags, young men with short blonde haircuts and tight shorts. Fair few police officers that would be pretty comfortable there don’t you think?
Or worse what if you open Pandora's box on a slippery slope what happens?
In case you didn't notice we have a little separation from the people who make the laws, the people who investigate them, the people who prosecute them and the people who evaluate the evidence.
Isnt that how Al Quaida view themselves?
Sounds like a Mexican sandwich.
But to answer your question, no.
People with liberal attitudes generally aren't war Lords, they generally don't cut people's heads off, especially those that refuse to grow opium poppies (heroin) instead of the regular farming that I'm sure they'll prefer.
You might want to have a word with yourself.
Having a sexual relationship with a fellow human being cannot be seen as deviant, or not morally acceptable, its a loving caring thing, we all enjoy, perhaps Ninfan you should try sex with another person, just not with yourself. some may even think of you as a w..ker.
As soon as you allow the police to express an opinion and turn up in uniform to support ‘good’ causes then they become arbiters of what is and isn’t to be tolerated or encouraged.
People break the law and attack people for being gay often. Really often. Still. The police have a role in stopping this, and showing support for Pride reminds people whose side they are on. The side of the law. Get over it troll.
