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I've had this a lot recently (I'm talking weeks), and ironically twice while reading this thread! I havent bothered reporting it as I always love the almost unapologetic "its your own fault for not being a premium member" tone of the mods whenever this topic crops up 😉

I don't want to be a premium member but I will donate occasionally when I sell stuff on here. And no, I don't get this on any other big sites (pinkbike for example). I don't mind the ads usually even though they catastrophically slow the site down at times, but for these to be popping up for so long with nothing done (does anyone do regular testing?), shows a distinctly disinterested attitude by the tech team to what must be their main revenue stream.

Oh, and it's a oneplus 5 using a chrome browser if that's any use...

(No, I have no life at 11.30pm on NYE either)


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:20 am
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Wrong. They deal with it properly.

Sorry CFH, last time I reported using that form, I heard sweet FA back and the same redirects kept coming )-:


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:54 am
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Just had it again while reading this. I'm off to pinkbike for a bit. Maybe post a stickie on the top of the forum if you can ever be bothered to sort it out


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 2:05 am
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can assure you that any other commercial sites you use as heavily as STW which are supported by advertising to pay wages will have this problem.

Nope. I go weeks at a time not visiting here as
1) I'm more of a roadie now
2) this is the ONLY site it happens on so the issues tend to drive me away.

When I do tend to browse here it's at work, on an archaic IT system with all sorts of restrictions and blockers - I regularly get 'stop long running script' and recover warnings there. On my phone I suffer these viral pop ups.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:12 pm
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Aaaand literally as I posted the above I got hit with another one

http://us.grot.date/tlp/0_index0.php?brand=Motorola&model=Moto%20G%204G%20(2nd%20Gen)etc

I'm off, see you in March.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:19 pm
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I was having a mooch about and the page turned into one of those "your mobile is riddled with viruses" and a pop-up I couldn't get rid of. That's the kind of crap I would expect from dodgy gentlemens sites, not a mountain bike forum.

I get the need for advertising, but perhaps funnel some of that cash in to some security against this stuff


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:43 pm
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I dont know why I bother to post this , but I guess its in the vain hope that someone at STW will actually bother to sort this out - They havent so far despite repeated reporting by many different people of this issue over the last year or so.

I'm getting these popups and redirects too, its exceptionally annoying and will lead to people leaving the site , not to mention the exceptionally unprofessional/dodgy impression it gives you of the site itself.

This has been happening for ages now , no other sites I visit have this issue, it needs to be sorted ASAP.

This website is a business , it not like its run by the local village community fete team who havent a clue what a computer is, why is this issue not being dealt with?


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:45 pm
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I'm a premium member but got it last night when logged in. How does that work?


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 12:53 pm
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I’m only wading in on this because STW forum has suffered redirects and pop ups for yonks, there have been plenty of single threads detailing the issues and plenty of folk asking for a sticky thread which would contain all the issues a single place/location where every issue could be captured and contained and possibly dealt with..

So..

Why no sticky thread ?

It seems logical, however by making a sticky thread does open up that STW accepts redirects and pop ups occur very frequently, and users are affected.. which might not be in the interest of the owners to admit too.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 1:12 pm
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Total speculation but I wonder if the dodgy ad servers pay better? Would explain the reluctance to get rid of them.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 7:09 pm
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Been a couple of years since I witnessed the death of a popular forum... 🙂


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 7:47 pm
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I don't have pop ups or adverts, but it's a little slow today, instead of 2s it's 7-8s each time a open a page.

Android latest version using Chrome


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 7:50 pm
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Suddenly gone very slow for me as well. The change to slowness happened this afternoon. I'll get about ten seconds of a completely black window before the thread appears. (Or I hit submit)


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:02 pm
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I don't know why 'they' punish us with these low-rent ad networks...its the barrel scraping advertisers that pay a pittance, surely ST is not desperate for cashflow that they need to stoop to these levels?

If the site is propping up a hugely loss making office/magazine business then perhaps eeking out every penny of ad revenue is not really the answer.

If they really do need to use these ad networks, can they not just be served to guests, i.e. those that login become little P's that do not have to suffer the popups. I even had one the other day that started issuing a verbal warning about viruses, had to reboot the phone as my browser was auto-loading my recently closed tabs.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:27 pm
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The hamster has clearly been overfed and is running very slow today, and I'm 'P' so no ads.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:27 pm
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Yup been sluggish for a few hours tonight, guess their hamsters are hungover.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:44 pm
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Chrome on Android and sloooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Also the pop up as earlier in the thread.

28.1% infected and my phone is critically infected.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:44 pm
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(a) I'm happy to pay the pittance required to stop the ads and I think it's remarkably cheap of some folk to grudge it, especially those who are regular users.

(b) I visit other forums and websites that I don't subscribe to as I don't use them regularly but I don't have these intrusive ads. That means it IS possible to select ad networks of a higher quality.

(c) I really don't care about the "high quality journalism" on STW, especially in a mag I don't read in either paper or electronic format. Sorry, but I can't see why the forum should subsidise the mag, if that is what is happening.

The fact that this has been going on for years without resolution suggests that it has become an acceptable part of the business model. No sticky, and relying on the regular intervention of the mods, merely helps to confirm this.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:44 pm
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OK, I've had enough.

My phone has just been compromised [i][b]again[/b][/i] by rogue ads from this site. No screenshot as the phone is stuck showing the rogue page and not responding whatsoever but the address it's gone to is us.grot.date/tip/(then my phone model followed by my name in full). I'll have to do another factory reset as I cannot guarantee the phone is safe.

For the love of God sort this out! This place is full of useful information [b]provided by the forum users[/b] and I have been a regular user for the last few years. While I have not had a P I have helped you by generating a lot of ad revenue, it was only recently that I have used an ad blocker on my laptop due to the ads sucking the life out of my laptop's CPU. My phone has not had one installed as it was bearable on there and I mainly accessed here on there anyway. Now it's painfully slow and continuously causing me grief so I can safely say I will no longer be visiting for the foreseeable future.

I will reiterate again that this is the only site I have problems of this kind on.

I hope everyone has a great 2018 and that the tech bods do finally get a grip on this issue but as of now I won't be visiting again. Hopefully this won't happen:

Been a couple of years since I witnessed the death of a popular forum...


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:48 pm
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Perhaps those whining about how the Powers That Be can’t be arsed to do anything about their issues might like to explain how and why it is I never get these problems, and I’ve posted exactly what devices, OS and browser/ search engine I use.
Seeing as how I’ve got no explanation as to why I don’t get them, and people like Cougar don’t seem to know, and it appears there are plenty of other members don’t seem to either, then bitching about it seems to serve no useful purpose, does it.
I just don’t have these issues, haven’t for ages, and I made just one change, swapping Google for DuckDuckGo as the default search in Safari.
Explain, please, because I can’t.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:59 pm
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Total speculation but I wonder if the dodgy ad servers pay better?

Quite the opposite, AIUI. And they aren't "dodgy servers" so much as they have lower quality control than other networks so rogues accidentally slip through occasionally. "Hey, let's sign up to a dodgy ad network for the luls" said no-one ever.

I don't know why 'they' punish us with these low-rent ad networks...its the barrel scraping advertisers that pay a pittance, surely ST is not desperate for cashflow that they need to stoop to these levels?

I think it's more to do with trying to avoid serving the same ads repetitively. But I'm not 100% sure TBH.

The hamster has clearly been overfed and is running very slow today, and I'm 'P' so no ads.

The last I heard was that the hosting provider was suffering from Denial of Service attacks. Unrelated to this issue and outside of STW's control short of changing providers.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:01 pm
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@CountZero - it isn't clear why you don't get these issues but assuming that you do see ads then the best guess is that you are both using an Apple device that doesn't seem to get served these ads as well as not being such a heavy user so you don't get down to the bottom of the barrel ads where these lie. As far as I can see all of the problems are on Android devices. I've never had any of these problems either even when I'm not logged in and am seeing ads so I'm not sure DuckDuckGo and IOS by itself is enough. I normally use Win10, Chrome and Google

It is interesting though but it's not clear that it is the solution


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:10 pm
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The last I heard was that the hosting provider was suffering from Denial of Service attacks.

Why not sticky this info while the forum is almost unusable?
I'm sure STW's customers would appreciate it.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:47 pm
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As far as I can see all of the problems are on Android devices.
It's been iPhones too.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 11:26 pm
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It's been iPhones too
ah ok, scratch that theory then. I've never seen this either on my phone (Android) or my computer but maybe I'm never on the forum long enough without being logged in to see it.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 11:51 pm
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Oddly, on my android I've only ever had the pop-ups when clicking on images hosted by imageshack.

I haven't even had that in months.

Forum had been slow tonight (normal now) but that's not the norm for me. Usually speed is ok.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 12:04 am
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Still getting the virus pop ups today


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 11:45 am
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Pretty obvious they (not Cougar) don’t give a shit really Which is weird when it’s drivIng people away from the site. Guess they get enough new visits that it doesn’t matter.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 12:45 pm
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Redirects on Android a lot at the moment for me, including a highly entertaining/annoying example- must have left a STW page open, went for a ride, something woke it up enough for a redirect and my camelbak started warning me I had a virus or somesuch. Took about 10 minutes of 'how fast can you open Chrome and close a tab' before I could get it to shut up. Not using STW on phone at the moment (oh, the horror).

Summary- Chrome, Android, no, I won't try and get a screenshot without half locking up my phone!


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 12:59 pm
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Android, Chrome.
Fine if logged in, instant redirect if not.

My phone often runs out of charge so I log in quite a lot.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 1:32 pm
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They do give a shit grum to, they're never happy when this happens.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 1:55 pm
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Yesterday on my Android phone I was getting redirected to a virus scam page telling me download something or other.Happened on every topic page after about 2 mins of browsing so gave up trying.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 2:11 pm
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Drac - Moderator
They do give a shit grum to, they're never happy when this happens.

I’d agree with that, they really can’t be happy at all.

I mean, we moan like billyo when it happens because we’re used to them.. but think of all those new users or users who visit the site once, maybe twice every year to read an article, or those that are unique one hit users that get the redirects and popups..

B’aint nevva coming back are they.. and they’ll spread the word “have you been on the mountain bike site STW? Don’t bother I got popups and redirects to porn sites and virus scan pages.. took me ages to get the damn things off the phone/device”
As an example.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 2:36 pm
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I can understand the frustration of trying to use a free forum, and the wealth of knowledge and information that it contains, and the reluctance to pay for that service. Even the fact that the owners are sat laughing at those effected, whilst rolling in their dirty, filthy, ill-gotten gains from he advertising revenue.

Just support the forum by buying a "P" and never get advertised at again.

Mark? If you can find time between glugging champagne and deciding on your new yacht could you find one of the minions to work out the following?

I wonder how many Premier memberships it would take to turn the forum into a no advertising part of the website?


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 2:38 pm
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B’aint nevva coming back are they.. and they’ll spread the word “have you been on the mountain bike site STW? Don’t bother I got popups and redirects to porn sites and virus scan pages.. took me ages to get the damn things off the phone/device”
As an example.

That’s a real threat yes but casual visitors won’t be hit by them, Cougar explains these rogue ads pop up when a a visitor has attracted the other ads that aren’t effected it’s one reason why some people are effected more than others.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 3:00 pm
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Just support the forum by buying a "P" and never get advertised at again.

Untrue, because the site often logs me out, and if I'm just browsing, I generally notice only after I've got one of those stupid pop ups.

And even if it were true, are you saying that users of a free forum should expect to have their devices compromised unless they pay up?


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 4:04 pm
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I have one more little thing to add.

It’s not the Mods fault, they’re just in the firing line because like most of us they enjoy and contribute to the forum as much as we do.
So, let’s be constructive, let’s not pick on the Mods because this isn’t their problem. They’ll do thier best to note and help as well all know, but this clearly is a back office issue and they will in time seek out the nasties.

Happy New Ya!


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 4:13 pm
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Just a bump as tis has fallen off the front page and in lieu of it being a sticky topic.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 7:31 pm
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So, let’s be constructive, let’s not pick on the Mods because this isn’t their problem.

Thank you.

We spoke to Mark earlier. TL;DR, it's complicated but they're working on it.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 8:15 pm
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Just support the forum by buying a "P" and never get advertised at again.

For the record/ in case it helps, I get redirects even when logged in as a lofty P (-;


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 9:43 pm
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Roger Mellie.

I'd suggest that you take a look at your devices or the software you are running.

I've never seen an advert whilst logged in. And I've wasted too much time on here.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 9:54 pm
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For the record/ in case it helps, I get redirects even when logged in as a lofty P (-;

Have you enabled the block ads option?


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 10:23 pm
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Have you enabled the block ads option?
Yes.
I'd suggest that you take a look at your devices or the software you are running.
I've never seen an advert whilst logged in.
I've not seen an advert whilst signed in either. But I have been redirected to a 'virus warning' webpage when logged in and clicked on a forum thread page.
Android 6.0.1 and Chrome. Is that good/bad/ indifferent? I don't have any room on the phone to install another browser.
I'll try to capture a screenshot next time it happens and send to the tech email address.


 
Posted : 03/01/2018 2:26 pm
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Aaaaannnddddd again. Android and chrome. Latest versions of both.

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