My Grandmother's second husband was a mason and so was one of my uncle's. My father was asked if he wanted to join but despite respecting them he decided it wasn't for him. They were just a middle ranking civil servant a council worker and small buisness man hardly the privileged elite. Cockwomble and a couple of others have it about right. Others are just parading the chips they have on their shoulders along with the usual right on ignorance.
There is plenty of evidence of masons perverting the course of justice. Yes the foot soldiers may be OK but the membership among politicians, judiciary and police are very worrying. Plenty of evidence of wrongdoing over a long period of time.
want to turn a blind eye to it - up to you but to pretend it does not happen - ludicrous in the facce of the evidence
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmhaff/467/46703.htm
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/31/freemasons-blocking-reform-police-federation-leader
That’s kinda nice though, in this day and age. Knowing your fellow Masons have got your back. It’s something that’s sadly lacking in society on the whole; no one looks out for each other any more.
So obvious. So so obvious.
Less is more young David.
Don’t forget the connection with the Illuminati, the Bilderbergs, 9/11, chemtrails, Kennedy, Cthulhu and the Elder Gods...
I expect the Flat Earth Society are connected in some way as well.
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but it’s not secret???
Correct; it's private, not secret
He acknowledged that they have handshakes, so it's not a secret. Declining to demonstrate it is mere detail
Why would you want to know - can the mechanics of the thing actually matter to people ?
Whats the fuss? They seem harmless enough although perhaps not brightest bunch. They only have to pass a third degree after all.
if you have a problem you can always lodge a complaint via the app “Ron”
My old boss , who was chief poobah (or what ever they are called) of the local masons , used to describe in great detail the ins and out of the things they used to get up to.
When he was caught speeding, and about to lose his licence, we all thought he would get off , as several highish ranking police officers and magistrates were in his lodge. Didn't stop him getting a six month ban
We just need jivehoney to arrive on the thread to complete the connections...
I haven’t ever given it much thought but the issue with it being a men only club, is that not just the same as the women’s institute being women only? Do we care about that? It hasn’t ever kept me up at night worrying.
It's the same whining one gets from previously powerful lobbies who've seen their influence decline over the years. Not that long ago you pretty much had to be a Mason to get ahead in your local community, and the secretive (or private, if you wish) element to their ceremonies added to the mystery and allure somewhat, and they were at pains to keep the public out of what they regarded as non of their business as they went about sorting things as they felt they should be. Now that there's competing interests and folk don't feel the need to ingratiate themselves with the local fishmonger to get ahead, their tune has changed. They could've been open and honest about who they are years and years ago, but with a healthy bank balance and full membership, were too busy rolling up their trouser legs. All of a sudden the piggy bank is empty and lodges are closing because 80 year olds don't get out much, and there's a sudden need for a recruitment drive...
see also: The Church.
is that not just the same as the women’s institute being women only? Do we care about that?
They both have to do *those* calendars to even it out.
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That’s kinda nice though, in this day and age. Knowing your fellow Masons have got your back. It’s something that’s sadly lacking in society on the whole; no one looks out for each other any more.
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So obvious. So so obvious.
Less is more young David.
I did not think davidtaylforth was trolling, i.e. posting a statement about a subject to which he is indifferent, purely to provoke responses. I think it's rather an eloquent piece of biting satire, and IMO it's the best post on the thread. In two sentences he gets to the heart of the issue.
I read it several times, enjoying it more and more each time. The tone and voice and the crafting of the phrases are spot on. Chapeau DTF.
Those who want to abuse the masons merely have to lodge a complaint. But don’t expect much. They are not the brightest sparks as they only have to pass a third degree
We heard you the first time THM. Are you so desperate for attention that you will keep posting the same thing until someone responds? There you go, I have so back to bed.
No it’s this odd thread. Didn’t submit on first viewing 😳
