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This will blow the OP's mind.
[url= http://www.bluechillicars.com/personal-contract-hire-cars/volvo/xc60-estate/xc60-estate-20-t5-250-momentum-5dr-awd-geartronic-259422896 ]Silly cheap XC60 lease deal[/url]
That's what the most modest of earners could drive with no kids, BIL they don't hate etc. (-:
This is the explanation for the work all your life thread.
My neighbor thinks my bike is flash
Bear, your stalking disturbs me 😯
One of middle_oab's classmates father has a sister work for Mercedes finance something or other. The house has an ever changing pair of nearly new Mercedes outside as various silly cheap lease deals come up. He was even saying he has been to work in morning, phone call in am, signed papers at lunch, drove home in different car....
Silly cheap XC60 lease dealThat's what the most modest of earners could drive with no kids, BIL they don't hate etc. (-:
5000 miles? Who the hell leases a car for 5000 miles a year?
Despite the headline of an XC60 for less than £210 a month, that's actually a shocking deal.
Assuming you use the (very) generous 10000 miles allowed in 2 years, it's going to cost you 70p per mile, before you put any fuel in it, insure it, tax it or service it.
£7k gone in two years to do 400 miles a month. A taxi would probably be cheaper 😆
Always spent my money on the home, with cheap ebay cars on the drive.
Just sold up and retired aged 54 to a modest house.
Time for a flash car me thinks.
What I am trying to get at isn't people with nice cars, it's the ostentatious flasher than really necessary sorts of cars that (to me) seem a pointless luxury if I am living in a small house with barely anywhere to park the damn thing.
There are plenty of smallish houses around without anywhere to park a Smart fourtwo, so I fail to see what point you’re trying to make.
Equally, plenty on here own vans that they use for daily transportation, may or may not have spent lots on a flash one, and would probably struggle to park it on the piddly amount of space many modern estates provide for car parking.
And a big, flash car may have been bought second-hand, for half of what it cost new, as an ex-lease car, have you considered that?
For more outrage see [url= https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/independent-brokers/car-leasing-contracts/bmw/4-series/263861612/ ]here[/url]
We're all aware of the joys of car ownership, and as much as the world drives me nuts nowadays I can't see how leasing isn't an absolute winner for most folk (as long as you're not sold on a particular car and just happy to take what's on offer).
One is a gas fitter (so in his van every day and his wife has a Citroen family car). The other fits block paving (so again in his work truck every day).
will be company cars. avoids giving the tax man a heap of cash 😉
Hob Nob - Member5000 miles? Who the hell leases a car for 5000 miles a year?
A chap I went to school with, now middle management civil service leases a brand new BMW. He has to get the bus to work 2 days a week as his mileage allowance does not stretch to driving to/fro work.5 days a week.
I drive a car a bought with cash and don't care if muddy bikes / wet sailing kit get thrown in...
Different folk have different priorities.
Trail-rat - I can certainly see that as one reason as far as those particular two are concerned.
Many of our grads at work have company cars because we are mobile consultants. They have 1-series and A-Classes. It makes sense for them to get the company car option because personal insurance for them is sky high. But because they are grads they live in small rented flats or houses.
Pretty reasonable.
I get that Molgrips - i’m Not talking about ‘executive’ type cars here (they are on every other drive these days), it’s the ones that cost >£80,000 - proper flash cars.
Cheap PCP deals and easy/irresponsible lending Vs. difficult/impossible to save a house deposit and difficult get a mortgage agreed. Possibly???
Modest eco-friendly house here, and a new electric car. Sounds like I might get on better with your neigbour than the petrol heads on this (bike) forum. 8)
It's my hope for 2018 that STW gets some new blood to force the resident trolls to up their game. There are a couple of the usual suspects on this thread and they're boringly predictable. The decline is almost sad to see.
As for the car thing, it's different priorities isn't it. Who cares?
5000 miles? Who the hell leases a car for 5000 miles a year?Despite the headline of an XC60 for less than £210 a month, that's actually a shocking deal.
Assuming you use the (very) generous 10000 miles allowed in 2 years, it's going to cost you 70p per mile, before you put any fuel in it, insure it, tax it or service it.
£7k gone in two years to do 400 miles a month. A taxi would probably be cheaper
I don't even know where to start.
What defines flash?
A pair of tasteless trousers worn with over expensive outdoor shoes whilst sitting in a first class aeroplane seat.
Quote from Daver)
or is it just personal choice? a big house isn't everything. Some would argue that huge unnecessary houses are the same thing in reverse.
I'd rather have a humble home and be able to live than plow everything into a huge house for me and the wife and kids. Quote off)
Summed up nicely for me not to bother repeating what has been said.
It's all relative, personal priorities and individual circumstances.....
I couldn't care less what I drive as long as it functions and fulfils it's purpose (slightly knackered 98 Mercedes flat bed truck) but I do own 2 houses, several barns, outbuildings and workshops all set on 15 hectares of land..... My priority was space, room to breath and a safe and healthy environment for my family.... I had to move to Croatia to do it but that was where our wants led us....
Could have stayed in the Uk, got a crap house and a flash car.... Neither of which I would technically 'own'.....
define flash
Audi RS4 innit....oh no that's a crass car
Not everyone[s] wants or needs[/s] can afford a big house.
when i look at my younger cousins they almost all have relatively new cars, new phones, sky package yet nearly all of them rent.
I have to ask - is this *that* different from driving an old beater as your car, but riding a £5k bike? Is it not just prioritising which you value more/ where you get best bang for your buck?
Maybe the difference between the house they are in and the next house up the ladder is just too bigger jump. Or they became disillusioned with the "bricks & mortar" ethos.
The important thing is to remember to judge other people who are different to you. That's the key to a happy and successful life. And this, probably:
Cheap PCP deals and easy/irresponsible lending Vs. difficult/impossible to save a house deposit and difficult get a mortgage agreed. Possibly???
Cheap PCP deals and easy/irresponsible lending Vs. difficult/impossible to save a house deposit and difficult get a mortgage agreed. Possibly???
Would agree with that. I have the opposite as I got over expensive cars a long time ago,
What about if turn this around to look at people with bangers on the drive who have huge mortgages on houses they can't afford and don't need... Similar abuse of a credit line.
and in light of equality .... we could also look at those with modest cars on the drives of modest houses ......
and bangers on small council houses (where i sit ;)) ..... but i have nice bicycles...
Hob Nob - Member
5000 miles? Who the hell leases a car for 5000 miles a yea
My wife leased hers for 6k miles a year, but I negotiated it up to 10k ‘just in case’ she’s actually on track for 4000 miles a year ha ha.
She loves her car, it’s ‘cheap’ at £150 a month and ultimately it’s a tool for Work that’s covered by expenses. We usually travel as a family in my car as it’s bigger and hers has got a boot full of work stuff in it.
What about the other way round? People with flashy houses and cheap crap cars?
One of the reasons we've got a nice house and a small mortgage is because we've not pissed money up the wall on new cars.....
I think the OP approves of you, thank god.
And what about people with crap houses and crap cars....
I think now that this is getting to an interesting discussion after the first page of flaming. I get that it’s about different priorities and different situations and we won’t all understand other’s opinions.
Pop over to piston heads there’s a thread dedicated to super cars in driveways of semis
😛I think now that this is getting to [s]an interesting discussion after the first page of flaming[/s] the heart of STW. I get that it’s about different priorities and different situations and we won’t all understand other’s opinions.
I've got a shit car and a tiny house but spend a fortune on strippers
I just lean my dustbin against any neighbour's cars that I don't like the look of.
Bloke up the road from us in a three bedroom semi has a range rover sport. He cares nothing for his appearance, he's not just fat but corpulent and decaying, and goes around in equally decaying tag t-shirts and jogging bottoms, but a few times I've seen an Aston Martin or similar in the drive for a weekend. I even saw him sitting in it in the drive with the engine running, just sitting there.
I think he really likes flash cars.
I've got a shit car and a tiny house but spend a fortune on strippers
Coke and hookers surely?
Sugar Daddy visiting his bit on the side?

