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Try contacting one of STW's IT Army when they are mulling over a new and expensive bike.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:27 am
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Also the OP knows about Macs and uses them just they don't make something anywhere near suitable in his price range.

Also the OP knows about Macs and uses them just they don't make something anywhere near suitable [s]in his price range[/s].

(At least not a laptop)


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:51 am
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Just resurrecting again - so now I have removed all the bloated anti-virus rubbish (Avast flashed up a 'You have malware' message as I removed it (nice way of scaring people guys), what is the best free anti-malware software I *should* install?

AVG Free?


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:33 am
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Windows 8? Then install nothing. It's already built in.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:41 am
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Fair enough, and to be fair it won't really be used for much surfing other than online shopping (Amazon, Tesco etc) and email checking.

I tend to use my Macbook Pro for surfing and my wife uses the iPad.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:58 am
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Your best bet, if you can be arsed, is as above - try and get hold of a plain copy of W8.1 and install that using your license key. It'll fly. Can you still download windows images?


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:59 am
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Like some of you I've used Windows and Mac machines. Both have their positives and negatives. A clean vanilla install of either OS makes a world of difference to the user experience and system performance.

The OP might have had better luck with a Mac Mini and external storage for all the, music, video and photos, though I suspect that would have been a bit more than £360.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:01 am
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Windows 8.1 enterprise trial edition has a command line that lets you use it for up to 270 days...for free 🙂


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:02 am
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Didn't want a desktop though, wanted something we can move around (for example if our girls have friends round and they want to play music we can pop the laptop in the room and we can choose music together).


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:03 am
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This is an interesting thread for me, I'll be in need of a new PC in the not too distant future, it probably has to be Windows for a lot of the CAD (probably only smaller assemblies in Inventor and/or Solidworks, maybe a bit of "Light" FEA) and some other software I plan to run with it, I'd possibly consider dual booting Windows/Linux, really not sure ATM.

The main thing is I'd been thinking new laptop all along, I've been away from computers generally for a while and need to get myself back up to speed anyway, but now I'm toying with the idea of a desktop to live in my Garage, I don't have any other "home Office" space and I'm not that keen on pitching out the laptop on the kitchen table every time I want to use it.

So who would be good to look at for a vanilla spec Win 8.1 desktop? or even a barebones system, I don't mind a bit of self assembly and doing some installation/decrapifying, but what's actually worth buying today knowing I may well want to "Upgrade" it in the future rather than simply replace the whole thing?

Initial budget would be as far under £500 as I can keep it, including the OS and a monitor/TV... thoughts?


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 11:55 am
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The component sellers online always do systems - much better than off-the-peg:

scan
overclockers
aria
dabs

etc


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 11:58 am
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Your best bet, if you can be arsed, is as above - try and get hold of a plain copy of W8.1 and install that using your license key. It'll fly. Can you still download windows images?

Indeed - I recently had to do a complete re-install of this computer and after failing to get the recovery partition to work I downloaded an MS installation disc (for Vista) to do a clean re-install. I then found my recovery DVDs and did consider for a while doing a factory re-install, before remembering all the stuff I'd want to remove and realising that I didn't actually use any of the add on stuff which came with it.

Looks like Win 8 is available, though not completely straightforward (personally I'd use W7 given the choice)

http://www.howtogeek.com/186775/how-to-download-windows-7-8-and-8.1-installation-media-legally/
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/upgrade-product-key-only


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 12:12 pm
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Just be careful with PC Decrapifier - its got some freeloading garbage bundled up with it that is a pain to remove - v9 for examble!


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 4:58 pm
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*Strokes Hackintosh*
*Smiles*


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 11:22 pm
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Initial budget would be as far under £500 as I can keep it, including the OS and a monitor/TV... thoughts?

usual advice but take a look at Dell outlet, great prices. Don't think there was much on the last machine I got but I wiped it back to Win 7 anyway.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 3:36 am
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I spent years of my life babying PCs from the scum of the internet, constantly vigilant like it was on the Liverpool Pathway or something.... until i bought a Mac.

Like the old cliche, it just works. No spending hours pulling my hair out trying to get it to boot up off a USB because some lithuanian gold tooth **** decided to zombie my computer or shit like that.

Worth the price a million times IMHO.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 4:55 am
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Like the old cliche, it just works. No spending hours pulling my hair out trying to get it to boot up off a USB because some lithuanian gold tooth **** decided to zombie my computer or shit like that.

Really? What the hell were you doing with it? No issues like that with a PC here.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 5:42 am
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Constant updates, constant virus scanning. It was an XP machine that I spent more time frigging around with than actually using to do stuff. Safe to say on my shiny lovely mac I have done zero of this and its as fresh as the day i turned it on. If you want a computer that works and looks nice buy a mac.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 1:22 pm
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You realise that XP is a twelve year old operating system, yes? And that virus scans are nothing to do with the OS. Might as well relay the awful time I once had with an Apple II.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 1:32 pm
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all in my experience mate, from friends who's houses I've been invited over, "to have a quick look at their computer" only to spend the next few hours performing open heart surgery on their spangly new Windows machines. The amount of bloatware that comes with them is atrocious. Then you have the constant updates, week after week..

After using computers since i got my first Speccy zx80 as a spotty kid, I always loved Apples simple ethos. Windows has always been its poorer cousin. Regardless of its proliferation, for the average user, Mac ticks all the boxes for just working without needing to be an emeritus from MIT.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 2:44 pm
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The amount of bloatware that comes with them is atrocious. Then you have the constant updates, week after week..

One is a retailer issue not a platform issue, even by the time of win 7 updates are mostly background things that are done automatically with very few resets required. I'm more surprised when they come up these days as I've mostly forgotten about them.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 2:51 pm
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Apples 'just work' because they control the hardware, so things cost more. It's not better, just different.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 3:23 pm
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My PC just works. It even just connects to my printer, which is more than I can say about the Apple product in this house. Don't do anything special with it, just have the usual router firewall and MSE, which I've never touched - though the latter has never detected a virus in 4 or 5 years I've had this PC. Have never had to touch Windows updates either - they just do their stuff in the background.

I do wonder what it is with these people who manage to mess up their computers and need hand-holding technology to stop them doing that.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 3:29 pm
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Then you have the constant updates, week after week..

No, you don't. Updates are monthly - second Tuesday of every month - unless there's an emergency patch. And if there's an emergency patch I'd rather have it, thanks.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 5:21 pm
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Spent another hour today taking 'safe filter' off , more crap skimming Search details Etc off the computer. Really %#^*Ing shit really.


 
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