[Closed] overt displays of affection in public

In another hundred years, the relatively liberal attitude we have towards sex and sexuality will seem as repressed to them as the 1920s does to us now

I'm not old enough to remember but some of the clothing from the 20s suggests they were quite kinky. Well, they do in my limited imagination. And I know it's not a pic [i]from[/i] the 20s but it's closest to what sprung to mind when reading your post...

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Purple haired girl is preggers.

but,
but...
how?

Dancing to a live band at a festival and having a snog with your partner not exactly a news worthy event.

It is if you don't have regulation gender and clothing. This is the 10's not the [s]60's[/s] early 80's

Purple haired girl is preggers.

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some of the clothing from the 20s suggests they were quite kinky.

You may well have a point. TBH, I picked a random year from a while ago without care for detail.

You may well have a point. TBH, I picked a random year from a while ago without care for detail.

Your error in decade selection highlights a bigger error. People make big generalisations about society being on an every progressing path of liberalisation. It's not true. We might just as well see more socially conservative periods of history ahead of us. It's happened before, will happen again.

So long as no one gets their wanger out I'm fine with it.

To be fair they do both appear to be regulation compliant female gender their sexuality appears to be regulation lesbian too so nothing at all out of the ordinary about them .
The Paris Kiss photo was staged though.
"The court action forced Doisneau to reveal that he posed the shot using Françoise Delbart and Jacques Carteaud, lovers whom he had just seen kissing, but had not photographed initially because of his natural reserve; he approached them and asked if they would repeat the kiss. He won the court case against the Lavergnes.[1][3][9][10] Doisneau said in 1992, "I would never have dared to photograph people like that. Lovers kissing in the street, those couples are rarely legitimate."[8][9]"

If it stops short of fingers n tops, what's the problem?
In fact, even then...?

The Paris Kiss photo was staged though.

You know, I rather thought it would have been. I was looking at some of his photographs in a gallery this afternoon, coincidentally, and the one that really caught my eye was this:

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[i]Sidelong Glance[/i]

It made me smile, the bloke catching a cheeky look at the nude while the woman scrutinises the unseen image in the window. It got me thinking about the fortune of catching such a shot, although on further investigation it transpires that 'Sidelong...' is a series of images. Here are a couple more:

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[i]The Kiss[/i], staged or not - and it's a wonderful subject to consider from a documentarian's perspective - tells a lovely story that most people take something positive from. It's very interesting to see the observations, reactions, and 'reasoning' behind people's reactions, to the two girls kissing. People are strange...

Pop trivia on "The Kiss" - that quintessentially french looking chap in the beret was Irish. 😀

(I pray this is not an urban myth, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is.)

The Paris Kiss photo was staged though.

Sophie Merlo who took the pictures said: 'They were just kissing and holding hands. I did not expect that reaction at all'

[i] All bets are off though if I actually know the woman.[/i]

What, your mother?
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I got so far then realised this is about the tail wagging the dog.

Reading a particular members posts. It would seem that all you parents are going to have to stop taking your families to events where you might risk witnessing something happening that might be better suited to taking place in the privacy of a house.
Or risking your children seeing something they haven't been appropriately brain washed to accept.

Some may feel a need to contradict natures intention, but that in no way empower them to gain a whip-hand over those around them.

Again, its personal rights weighed against an individuals responsibility to those around them.
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something happening that might be better suited to taking place in the privacy of a house.

The kids regularly see me kiss MrsGrahamS in the privacy of our house.
I don't have an issue with them seeing people kiss in public.

Some may feel a need to contradict natures intention

WTaF?

"natures intention"?

Are same-sex relationships "unnatural"?

Someone should probably tell [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals ]all the other species that do it then[/url]!

These mallards have clearly been brain-washed:

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GrahamS.

Pretty poor attempt there, even by STW standards.
Exemplary case of not reading the post, before hitting the keys in an unsurprisingly rabbid, knee jerk fashion.

Your post, it's so shambolic, there's evidently no point dealing with it.
Happy frothing.
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I'm with the parrot theory.
Has Bill Oddie commented ?

This has swung from affection to lust, you can pat a dog affectionately without giving it 'the vulcan'.

Most of the the time.

Exemplary case of not reading the post, before hitting the keys in an unsurprisingly rabbid, knee jerk fashion.

Your post, it's so shambolic, there's evidently no point dealing with it.

I'm not sure which part about brain washing and "nature's intent" you feel I misinterpreted from your post Solo.

But I can understand why you might want to stop digging. 😀

Your post, it's so shambolic, there's evidently no point dealing with it.

"It would seem that all you parents are going to have to stop taking your families to events where you might risk witnessing something happening that might be better suited to taking place in the privacy of a house."
Better keep them out of churches then there is lots of kissing in church in my experience. Often the vicar actually tells them to do it.

Did someone say that Cheggers was pregnant?

[i] I'm not sure which part about brain washing and "nature's intent" you feel I misinterpreted from your post Solo.
But I can understand why you might want to stop digging.[/i]

Oh, grahams. I do like your public admission of your great dumbness, it's as close as you're going to come to apologising and so on behalf of everyone here, I accept.

I might have felt inclined to assist you with the correct interpretation of my post. But as you've clearly demonstrated, you're hindered on at least two points.
Firstly, your over developed, "hair trigger" response combined with a desperate need to flame, clearly has made you appear to be beyond help.
Secondly, your attempt to antagonize me in the way you have, indicates you probably couldn't understand even if for pity's sake, I did try to help you.

natures intent is self evidently that lesbians homosexuals bi-sexuals and transgender people exist and given that they are in all physical intellectual and moral respects the same as any other human nature clearly intends them to be treated equally.

Most children at my sons nursery kiss each other as a greeting freely and without gender discrimination I would suggest that a child would need to be brainwashed by something to depart from that point and come to see a same sex kiss as abnormal.

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I have no desire at all to "flame" or "antagonize" you Solo.
So yes I do readily apologise if you felt that way.

I just disagreed with the points that [i]I thought[/i] you were making.

Apparently you were actually making very different points that are far too subtle for my feeble mind to comprehend.

Which is frustrating.

But ultimately a good thing, because the points that [i]I thought[/i] you were making were pretty homophobic.

Crankboy.

Well done for giving your second post, some more thought.

Of course, as far as the others are concerned, it helps not to succumb to their own prejudices before pointing their fingers.

It's become unintentionally, quite amusing to see all those who've misinterpreted my comments and immediately type cast me.
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Is this dumbass Wednesday?

It'll be banhammer Wednesday if you don't tone it down.

Most children at my sons nursery kiss each other as a greeting freely and without gender discrimination I would suggest that a child would need to be brainwashed by something to depart from that point and come to see a same sex kiss as abnormal.

Just a reminder that this thread began as a question about the lines surrounding public displays of affection. The sex of the two people involved in the 'story' was incidental to the question.

I wish now that it had have been a heterosexual couple so that there could be no confusing things...

I wish now that it had have been a heterosexual couple so that there could be no confusing things...

If it'd been a heterosexual couple I doubt there would have been a) as many complaints or b) a news story.

solo cheers for your praise not sure what you mean by it but all praise gratefully received.

Regardless of gender mix a passionate snog is not really inappropriate in a public setting of this nature and people who say otherwise really need to open their eyes and consider the reality of life.

groping would be inappropriate regardless of gender mix.

[i] But ultimately a good thing, because the points that I thought you were making were pretty homophobic.[/i]

GrahamS.
Sincere thanks for reconsidering my comments and removing your slurr against me.

I retract my comments at you, also.

Cougar.
Think what you will, this subject appears to elicit a response from you which should possibly see your ban hammer button, temporarily disabled.
(I know that wont happen)

I expressed my disappointment at some of the knee jerk responses to my post trying to hassle me for something I haven't said.

As GrahamS has shown you, we could have sorted this without your comments.

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Crankboy. Cheers.

Regardless of gender mix a passionate snog is not really inappropriate in a public setting

I think everyone probably has their "public decency" level. Personally I don't have any issue with a bit of a public pash. In fact I think it is rather nice in a way. But I'd feel that any fumbling beyond that is a bit inappropriate.

The gender of the participants makes no odds to me.

Sincere thanks for reconsidering my comments and removing your slurr against me.

Actually I still have no idea what your original comments were getting at, other than my interpretation of them was (happily) wrong. 😀

When is in public not in public? Because most dogging occurs in areas that have open access to the public, and that is definitely not ok. Is it also time dependent because chucking out time in my local area looks like a free for all in a brothel.

because chucking out time in my local area looks like a free for all in a brothel.

PM your location Benji, we should go for a drink, email in profile 😉 x

My temporary and unintentional diversion of the thread means I'll leave it now.

I agree with most, for me there is 'just' a limit I 'feel' about how much should happen in public. A limit without prescribing gender.

Nice to see so many people saying, "this behaviour is not suitable for public spaces" rather than "[b]I believe[/b] this behaviour is not suitable for public spaces". 😉

Even if this was a publicity stunt - so what ? - the real world is full of things we may not like seeing or hearing - welcome to the world! And any one who thinks this might corrupt kids is a twit. Modern kids have the nous to realise that taking it for granted that same sex couples or others can kiss in public doesn't make that behaviour compulsory.

I wonder if some people need to look at their own emotional reserve and difficulties before demonising others. You don't want to look, don't look!

I wonder if some people need to look at their own emotional reserve and difficulties before demonising others.

Worth repeating, I think.

It's become unintentionally, quite amusing to see all those who've misinterpreted my comments and immediately type cast me.

the real world is full of things we may not like seeing or hearing - welcome to the world!

Very true. Which is why I was quite so surprised that when the two people in question were called upon their behaviour by members of the public and then a security bod they were so upset. Welcome to the world, sometimes you might not like what you are hearing but have to go along with common consent and not be so thin skinned. Your peers who you were sharing the space with found your behaviour inappropriate - stop whinging and get over yourselves.

If I was kissing my partner in public and someone approached me, told me it was "disgusting" and that we should stop because there were children around then I'd be a little upset too.

they were so upset...stop whinging

Do we have a good measure of how upset they were?

The quote from Malvern Rider suggested they are fairly robust characters:

[i]"I am quite fierce and not a shy girl so I brushed it off. But it did leave me a bit shaky.
...I am just glad that it did not happen to other more quiet and sensitive girls."[/i]

Well, upset enough to make it a news worthy story - I'm guessing it was their photographer who released the photos to the press. If they were actually upset or fake/showy upset to make it news worthy I don't know.

[url= http://www.****/news/article-3160413/Lesbian-couple-s-fury-ordered-stop-kissing-security-guard-food-festival-told-behaviour-inappropriate.html ]This daily mail (yes, I know again) article gives a reasonable photographic sequence of events[/url] Again, would not bother me personally but I guess could be described as 'ostentatious' snogging which might not have been appropriate for the occasion - no idea as wasn't there.

The elephant in the room is that they think its about their sexuality or are possibly using it as a level of protection for behaving as they choose. Personally I'm not sure it was, but who knows.

...I am just glad that it did not happen to other more quiet and sensitive girls.

You know, I don't think quiet and sensitive girls who have had the problem in the first place!

TBH I can't gauge how passionate/physical a kiss it was from the photo.

It may have been a well captured fleeting loving kiss or a prolonged tonsil hockey event.

Calling for it to stop because there are children present is ridiculous, however if I had been there and it was a tonsil hockey event, I'd have been likely to comment "Good lord, get a room!"

I've changed my mind. The whole thing is a publicity stunt.

Look at the image Rusty posted on the previous page. The pics on the DM site are all watermarked with the name of the photographer who solicited for a gay couple to photograph to provoke a reaction.

Attention-seeking couple got attention. Film at 11.

The whole thing is a publicity stunt.

Most things are. Even you.