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"Tussle" may be the wrong word - a "spirited few miles of driving" - both smiling, both having fun. If none of you have ever done that, you are talking complete and utter BS.
Never raced on a public road, not BSing, just sensible. I know I'm not a very good driver so getting into a situation like that would be stupid for me, and unwise for even a trained Police, high class, IAM accredited driver. I doubt that they'd have supported you stance for racing on public roads. I'd be interested to hear otherwise though? Can't really imagine a situation where they'd condone that!
Gone over the speed limit? Yes, but that's a whole different argument!
So, I take it the road wasn't closed and it wasn't a private race event then SM? Irresponsible and potentially dangerous it is then.
Have we made it to the back of the room yet with this post?
pious
adj
1. having or expressing reverence for a god or gods; religious; devout
2. marked by reverence
[b]3. marked by false reverence; sanctimonious[/b]
Have we made it to the back of the room yet with this post?
I think you're right. Seems to have degraded to insults.
Apologies if I made any false assumptions Mat, just airing my opinion based on what you've written. If you care to give me an example of when the Police would support your actions, then I'm more than happy* to change my opinion. I know very little about advanced driving (not being pious, just telling the truth) so a more experienced voice is welcomed.
* Maybe happy is the wrong word, no one likes being wrong!
anyone mentioned nazis yet?
I am selling my RS6 for a good price; deal to be done...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2041685.htm
Didn't Porsche design the Beetle for them?
Did I say "race" anywhere? The RS6 was behind me, he didn't attempt to overtake. A race is for a racetrack - this was using quick cars for what quick cars do - they go quickly.
A race involves overtaking, jostling for position. A race on a public road usually means silly maneouvres to get ahead. This (and similar "fun" - oops sorry did I equate "driving" with "fun" - I need burning at the stake) often leads to crashes by poor drivers. No one "wins" a fast drive with another car on roads with just two lanes.
The only time you "win" is when some gimp usually in a 2.0TDI Audi or Golf decides to try and prove himself (or more increasingly herself) by driving up your backside when you can't move out of the way on a dual carriageway or motorway. So as the traffic clears, it can be fun to leave them for dust. Safely.
None of you moaners with powerfulish motors ever floored it when someone is constantly tailgating you? Oh of course not. None of you ever enjoyed a quick drive with a mate driving in another car? Any of you detractors not dead from the neck down?
anyone mentioned nazis yet?
...and the circle is complete.
Godwin would be proud.
Flange "*lights paper, stands well back*" job done. Thread well now alight.
BTW when is this quiet time on the M25 that you speak of?
They are huge enough to run over a mid size hatch without feeling it.
They are offensively ugly.
Fuel consumption is enough to get your local greenpeace activist foaming at the mouth.
I'd love one.
I also quite like the Audi Q7's for much the same reasons but I'd guess they aren't quite so cheap....if cheap is a word you could use to describe 3 tonnes of Porsche 😀
To the OP, if you are serious about still wanting one then send me a mail & I'll give you my mobile number if you want a chat about any of the cars you may have seen, or general advice on running costs & pitfalls.
But I'm staying out of the rest of the thread.
Cheers.
Which is the most un PC?
A Range Rover Supercharged 500bhp jobbie?
A Cayenne Turbo?
A Q7 V12 TDI?
Did I say "race" anywhere? The RS6 was behind me, he didn't attempt to overtake. A race is for a racetrack - this was using quick cars for what quick cars do - they go quickly.A race involves overtaking, jostling for position. A race on a public road usually means silly maneouvres to get ahead. This (and similar "fun" - oops sorry did I equate "driving" with "fun" - I need burning at the stake) often leads to crashes by poor drivers. No one "wins" a fast drive with another car on roads with just two lanes.
The only time you "win" is when some gimp usually in a 2.0TDI Audi or Golf decides to try and prove himself (or more increasingly herself) by driving up your backside when you can't move out of the way on a dual carriageway or motorway. So as the traffic clears, it can be fun to leave them for dust. Safely.
None of you moaners with powerfulish motors ever floored it when someone is constantly tailgating you? Oh of course not. None of you ever enjoyed a quick drive with a mate driving in another car? Any of you detractors not dead from the neck down?
Ha ha! You justify to yourself however much you want chap!
If you concentrating on the car in front/behind, rather than on the road environment then you may as well be racing. It's only a semantic argument you're generating here.
Oh well, thanks for the thread, it was fun!
None of the above
in order of co2 nastyness
Cayenne Turbo 270 g/km
Q7 V12 TDI 298 g/km
Range Rover Supercharged 374 g/km
the winner is
Mercedes M63 392 g/kg
Although owners would say they don't count since they aren't driven much. Both the Bentley V8 and the Murcielago are near 500g/km
....I'll get my bike....