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Just had a look at the old on one website on the way back machine and I couldn't help but feel like it has lost it's charm compared to what it was 10 years ago. The note form the founders before you opened the website, the informal news roundup on the main page and the funny anecdotes about how they came up with designs and names for their latest bikes all made the website feel more homely and british. Like you were having a conversation with the website at the pub.
Don't get me wrong, I like on one and its products, but I feel like that personal touch that set it apart from the rest of the brands has gone. When's the last time they named a bike something rude?
Rant over. Maybe I'm just tired.
For me they lost their charm when they decided to rob me and lie their way out of a warranty claim.
When’s the last time they named a bike something rude?
What, apart from Inbred, Inbred 456, Inbred 567, Inbred 853?
Or are you thinking of Stiffee, Hummer, Handjob…?
In which case you may be thinking of a different brand on a different continent.
I had a Handjob and a Hummer, one of which changed into an Inbred 567, and the Handjob changed into an Inbred 853. They’re both still out in the shed. So’s the Handjob frame, as it happens.
pompino
For me they lost their charm when they decided to rob me and lie their way out of a warranty claim.
@Northwind Tenner says this thread goes downhill and ends up getting pulled before long...
Celery. That is the ride feel.
I couldn’t help but feel like it has lost it’s charm compared to what it was 10 years ago.
When you were 6?
Cheats, con-merchants and liars.
That about covers it for me.
Cheats, con-merchants and liars.
That about covers it for me.
Brexit profiteers too (they don’t, or didn’t, remove UK VAT for orders going to the continent)
Wasn’t their ‘charm’ riding just the right side of cheap and cheerful/crap so people could overlook a few shortcomings? For me they’d mostly lost that even before upping prices to take advantage of recent shortages
Last time I bought a bike was the second lot of 853 inbreds, they were fine
I keep riding them
I don't look at bikes anymore and Im much happier for it
@plumber
Indeed, have built a couple of OO frames up for mates, they were good value, I’d happily ride one.
I don’t look at new stuff either, ‘run what ya brung’
Even bikes that aren’t that good are still great.
If you want a strange website that belongs 10 years back, visit Lings Car Leasing....
Tenner says this thread goes downhill and ends up getting pulled before long…
I'll take that bet, but first I'll take your money. And then not provide the paid for return on the bet because the in stock pay out item isnt really in stock in any meaningful way. But I'll tell you it's about to be delivered I to the warehouse repeatedly, but it wont be. But on balance enough punters will be ok that I wont give a **** how you feel.
I've been buying from them for years (456, 456 Ti, Full Monty, Scandal 29, Free Ranger and lots of bits & pieces in-between), never had an issue.
Value for Money IMO.
Wasn’t their ‘charm’ riding just the right side of cheap and cheerful/crap so people could overlook a few shortcomings
Add steel to that, but otherwise spot on for me.
For people who want a decent steel bike, reasonable geo and can except not the lightest, not the best finish etc they were good. Not looked recently but last time I did I thought they were no longer that cheap
Compared to other offerings. Still steel at least.
I've loved the bikes they (Brant) has designed. Inbred, 456, Pompetamine, Parkwood and now a Scandal.
As a company they've had their ups and downs. Didn't they go from a small company (Brant in a shed) to Planet X (Sports Direct quality meets Ryanair customer service) back to being staff owned?
My recent experiences suggest they still aren't there in terms of price/quality/customer service balance but are making moves in the right direction. I don't think they've got the love that they used to have in terms of a small number of good unique designs. The specs aren't up their with the likes of Vitus/Canyon etc. either to match in that regard.
I took a punt on the Scandal and like the geometry. It was a stop gap on the way to something nicer. The various Ti options look ideal on paper but I'm not convinced enough to part with my money.
Well I really like my new Scandal and they were meant to send me a "factory second" minor defect frame that I bought off their ebay page. They shipped me a brand new one instead.
On One's charm, pictured yesterday...

I bought my first SS Inbred 17 years ago. I drove to an industrial estate outside Donny, met a bloke called Dave who gave me the bike and a cup of tea. I guess all that has changed.
The bike is still going strong, as are the 456 and 2nd hand Pompino that followed it. I haven't bought a new bike for 3+ years, but when I did it was a Ti Spitfire and it's a beautiful thing to ride. The pricing is irritating, but that's the game they're playing - good luck to them. Cheap but (basically) good.
For me, their charm was equivalent to that of taking a punt on dodgy goods bought from a Del Boy type down the market. You might get an absolute bargain, or you might get a piece of tat with very little recourse to put things right. Their Inbred frames (26 inch) were a great way to build up a winter beater bike when they were knocking them out for a ton. That was 2010-2014ish, not ordered from them in a long time as they're no longer that cheap.
I had a Pompino that lived on for years of abuse with little tlc or maintenance, it also GLOWED IN THE DARK (intentionally). For this much will be forgiven.
I also once bought a merino base that a gorilla would have found a close but not quite fit, massive chest and arms, but really short in the body.
In fairness I don't use any bike companies much these days, they don't tend to sell working from home, coffee or dog accessories sadly.
Well I really like my new Scandal
Put me in this column also, when I was looking for a good all round HT with modern geometry and a decent component spec, nothing came close, plus it was in stock. Ordered it, it arrived, built it, have ridden it ever since with zero issues. I get that it can be frustrating dealing with shit that goes wrong, but On One aren't the worst for it by a long way.
Never liked the website though, always thought it was crap design, and it continues to be
I know we've covered this multiple times before, but talking about PX generally - there is a decent core range of products hiding somewhere within their digital jumble sale of a website.
They are especially good at affordable roadie / gravel bikes and clobber, but then they undermine their own strengths with an incoherent product strategy and their famously offhand customer service.
They are a curate's egg
Bought plenty from them, not too many issues and those were rectified.
Warranty from people like Kona is from personal experience considerably worse
Bargains are less common these days but, 29er pacenti dl31 rims, Vittoria tyres, tik tik frame (the one sent in a box protected so the headtube didn't get damaged), and socks have all been good
Not sure about the recent direction, no idea who is now the "brains" behind their geometry choices. They have lost some of the personality which sometimes helped and sometimes hampered
Honestly, I think that the whole "scene" has lost some charm, not just OO/PX.
I can't afford a gazillion pound bike every couple of years so I'm making do with older kit (2014 spec - ancient eh?. I need to replace the drive train on mine and was told that it was a 2 month wait for parts as nobody stocked triple chain sets. I could convert to a 1x11, but that would entail binning shifters and mechs that were perfectly good, so I'm going to have to wait.
Looking around now I get the impression that the name of the game is to rinse as much money out of us punters as possible, and OO/PX are by no means the worst culprits.
Moan over.
BTW the Carnac riding glasses from PX are an absolute bargain.
When you are looking for odd bits and pieces they are great. If you want up to date geometry on a budget they used to be great and will probably be again when the market subsides a bit. The Big dog was a value for money steel frame when it first came out. The gear hanger was sticking out of the box when the frame was delivered. Not perfect but value for money in my experience.
The Big dog was a value for money steel frame when it first came out. The gear hanger was sticking out of the box when the frame was delivered.
This sums up PX/on-one as well as anything in this thread.
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I missed the early days so missed the hype/buzz but my mate caught the tail end of it and has had plenty of their bikes since. His 10+ year old Inbred 29er has been through many builds and is still his go to bike.
They've always been a bit meh to me. I like to enjoy owning a bike rather than it being white goods. Closest I came was last year when they were knocking out cheap Scandals but it didn't take long before I was wondering how to increase my budget so I could afford something I really wanted.
Loved my C456, it was a cracking bike for hammering.
Not purchased anything from them for years. the Website is a mess and they seem more like a Chinese catalogue shop.
Loved my C456, it was a cracking bike for hammering.
Now if they made a carbon version of the Scandal for an inflation-adjusted similar price, that could be amazing.
Instead they seem intent on pumping out dozens of slightly different ti frames.
Still riding a 2006 Il Pompino as a hack bike.
Never had a problem with them myself, but does seem to be the company some people love to hate. Who was it who always posted "Gas Pipes" after every post Brant made on STW a few years back?
Did no one else get a shock when they googled "pompino" from work, when researching a new commuter bike? Just me?
Cheats, con-merchants and liars.
That about covers it for me.
I've got some drinks and snacks ready, and a very comfy chair. And I'm a bit bored. Anyone care to elaborate on this? 😀
Honestly, I think that the whole “scene” has lost some charm,
This. Very much this.
Loved the (several) inbreds i've had over the years - finally stuck on the ex-terrahawk
tinbred i have now. raced (by him) crashed and abused (by me 🙂 ) and everything from
single speed through 3 x and rigid !
I'm another who has not had problems and can only, honestly, report that I've had good products at reasonable prices. The one and only time I've had a customer service issue, a prematurely failing BB, it was resolved quickly and effectively. 3 frames, 2 complete bikes and numerous bits & pieces; base layers, winter tights, helmets, shades, gloves.. Never less than functional and often surprisingly good value.
Anyone care to elaborate on this? 😀
Tbh I'm reading this thread with interest too, as I'm seriously considering getting a Rocky Road Ti.
Having spent a silly amount of money last October on a Van Nicolas ultegra di2 I have been looking for a very cheap flat handlebar gravel bike for quite a while, when the Rocky Road pops up in my emails.
I would be my fourth OO but the last one I bought was an original scandium Scandal, so obviously many years ago.
Anyone care to elaborate on this?
It's a bit like the thread on the bike forum about Scribe / Hunt wheels where people randomly take great offence that they might be rebranding OEM rims, which apparently is the crime of the century. One One / Planet-X were a slightly off the wall modest brand, a bit matey, a bit quirky and for some reason this really grates with a small minority who become avid haters and dedicate their online lives to slagging them off. All companies cock up the odd order here and there, it's just inevitable. The difference is the big brands eg Spezialized etc don't seem to attract the odd ball haters, maybe as they're seen as too big to attack.
There was a similar thing with Superstar components a while back, someone on here had created a complete webside dedcicated to bringing them down as he'd had a bad set of wheels from them.
Can't remember who, but some random STW poster would always post 'gas pipes' after every post from Brant (ex OO / PX) as some sort of one man vigilnte war against the company.
I don't think that's accurate footflaps. On-One/Planet X certainly had a period of terrible quality control and even worse customer service. They may be better now but their poor rep was justified.
One One / Planet-X were a slightly off the wall modest brand, a bit matey, a bit quirky and for some reason this really grates with a small minority who become avid haters and dedicate their online lives to slagging them off.
You couldn't be much further from the truth.
Charm?!
Scoroutes; it's you who is claiming they are 'conmen, cheats and liars', so why not elucidate?
Please; I'm very bored today.
I don’t think that’s accurate footflaps. On-One/Planet X certainly had a period of terrible quality control and even worse customer service. They may be better now but their poor rep was justified.
Well that's my interpretation of events!
Have to say I've used OO/PX for years and never had a single issue with them, but obviously if you serve 1000s of customers you'll always have cocks ups and piss some people off. Most just write it off and move on.....
What I find odd is your only seem to get this level of animosity shown towards the smaller brands and not the larger companies (who will equally screw up a small percentage of sales etc) / have products fail. My 'pop physcology' take is people think the smaller brands are bullyable rather than so big as to be untouchable.
It certainly generates behaviours which could be considered mild disorders.
Tbh I’m reading this thread with interest too, as I’m seriously considering getting a Rocky Road Ti.
Having spent a silly amount of money last October on a Van Nicolas ultegra di2 I have been looking for a very cheap flat handlebar gravel bike for quite a while, when the Rocky Road pops up in my emails.
I would be my fourth OO but the last one I bought was an original scandium Scandal, so obviously many years ago.
I've had nothing but good bikes from Oo / planetX, but not sure I'd go for a Ti bike there. Seems like a bad clash of categories.
They've sold loads over the years, though, Tinbreds and the like, and that rocky road is at a price where you'd manage your expectations in the event of any problem.