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I don't get all the love for the Dalton Bonds, he just smirked his way through the film's. There is a reason why they are the least repeated Bonds
Die Another Day is possibly the worst film I have ever paid money to watch.
Watched Dr No at the weekend, Dr No was killed off and the day was saved pretty easily back then!
Octopussy is one of my favourite Bond films, RM is brilliant in it, love it's outrageousness! Great theme song too. I get why people think Bond should be "serious", they are wrong mind 😂 That said, I do like the Dalton ones. Got absolutely no time for Craig at all though; Bourne does it all better. As for Brosnan... Goldeneye is great, lets just leave it at that!!
They're all ridiculous, camp, big budget, action cheese with corny one-liners.
Some are quite good at it, Goldfinger, Golden Gun, Moonraker, Spectre, Goldeneye.
Some less so, like that one with Madonna in, that was just bad from start to finish, or that one where Connery turned up and remade an earlier film, except without it being in any way good.
Never Say Never Again.
Not official.
Never Say Never Again.Not official.
And yet marginally better than Thunderball!
License to Kill was excellent
Had some actual plot/back story with his friend murdered, giving up his job to pursue the guy on his own; it had a topical (for the time) and beleivable villain rather than generic evil billionaire and/or soviet generals; and some interesting but not unbeleivable gadgetry and stunts, that don't steal the show.
Some of the earlier ones (especially Goldfinger as mentioned upthread) Bond acheives nothing except drinking and shagging his way through someone elses story
he just smirked his way through the film’s.
...well this was before smirking was banned in bars and restaurants.
Bond's main contribution to culture was mid-period Archer.
phrasing!mid-period Archer
There can be little argument that brosnan is perhaps the greatest exponent of the craft of acting of all time
A virtuoso technician. For example his most famous scene is a masterful display of understatement and nuance
Ladies and gentlemen I am of course talking about the classic 'Taffin':
Of course the directors cut is possibly the connoisseurs choice:
That car in The Living Daylights...
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Dalton was okay.
I saw Roger in the bogs at Nice airport a few years back.
Craig is an unappreciative miserable bastard who's shit in the role.
Craig is an unappreciative miserable bastard who’s shit in the role.
Now that is such total bollocks.
He does behave like he doesn't really wanna be doing it, but I wouldn't say he was shit.
That car in The Living Daylights…
Best car in the whole series.
The DB5 is nice but it's kind of LOOK AT ME! territory. The V8 Vantage is understated class. There's some interesting stuff about it on Wikipedia about the "conversion" from convertible to hardtop.
Also, they're bringing it back in the new Bond film! 🙂
Connery was excellent for his time but I rapidly grew to hate the 'humour' which increased and became overpowering in the following films, most of which haven't aged well. Daniel Crag seems to embody more of Flemings original character and IMO is excellent in the role. Having said that, Spectre was total crap with very little to offer on any level.
It's only a bit of entertainment though and I'll definitely be watching NTTD when it comes out.
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The 'one shot' opening in Spectre is ace
Ooo, Octopussy just starting on ITV4 🙂
first 13 mins have raised a smile at least!
Yep watching it now!! 🎈 🔪 🤡
What has being "Scottish" got to do with it ?
Definitely one of my favourites
On some level they're all awful and yet there's not one I wouldn't sit and watch if it was on and I had a spare couple of hours - even that stupid one with Madonna in. Switch off your disbelief and relax.
There are bits of all of them that are good and you don't have to like bond to find good stuff and characters.
A lot of the films have good baddies and side characters who had a bit of charm. Mr White and Mathis in the recent films along with Tanner. Q is always good for a one liner.
Some of the earlier bad guys were pretty impressive if you view them in the context of the time of the films.
Scaramonger was ruthless, educated and cold blooded.
Drax was to me at least an embodiment of a return to Nazi ideologies and genocidal racial cleansing for the space race generation. Against the backdrop of the shuttle programme it was of its time I'd say.
Resurrecting this thread to give you David Mitchell's take on the second-best Bond.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/16/the-names-bond-second-best-bond
“I think he’s attempting re-entry”
Rodger Moore
And for the avoidance of doubt, Daniel Craig and Casino Royale are the best. Although some "purists" tout OHMSS and bemoan the fact that Connery returned for Diamonds are Forever, rather than allowing Lazenby to continue and avenge Tracy.
The best Bond cars are the 2CV, the rebuilt orange Lotus and the Toyota.
The DB5 was ok,if you like HGV's.
Nah it’s the Lotus, I remember as a kid In the cinema It driving down that jetty and the last thing you expected was it to turn into a submarine.
Oddly it was the lotus mechanic who went to Sardinia with the cars that ended up doing all the stunt driving.
They're all pretty shit but I like them. They say more about me, Britain and British culture more than any other film or series I can think of.
Great cars, stunt scenes, beautiful glamorous women, fantastic music and stunning locations.
Die Another Day. End Of
Oddly it was the lotus mechanic who went to Sardinia with the cars that ended up doing all the stunt driving.
To give Roger Becker his dues he was a lot more than just a mechanic and his driving skills being called on shouldn't be that surprising.
If you think that Dalton was anywhere near the Bond from the books then you clearly haven’t read the books.
Casino Royale is by far the best Bond film, as it sticks roughly to the original novel. Pretty much everything else has had terrible screenwriters, including Roald Dahl, who introduced most of the nonsense that is still pervasive in the films, unfortunately.
If I were to be in charge of Bond I’d take it back to basics and set it back in the 50s. Bond shouldn’t have any ridiculous gadgets, nor should he be an expert in every f***ing thing. He is much more believable in the books because he escapes from situations by luck and cunning rather than by being able to fly a helicopter or perform some complex martial arts moves.
JP
think i'll stick to the films then, the books sound bloody boring. i do find all books boring though, must be well over 30 years since i've read one.
quite enjoying watching them all at the moment, just switch off for a couple of hours entertainment.
Die Another Day. End Of
...the franchise? Probably came close.
The invisible car in the film CFH posted the gif of is probably the worst moment in any bond film. Just stupid. So much product placement in that one too IIRC.
I agree, the ultra overt product placement is invasive.
everything else has had terrible screenwriters, including Roald Dahl, who introduced most of the nonsense that is still pervasive in the films, unfortunately.
#Crying_for_Roald_Dahl
One closest to the books is from Russia with love.
Connery is the man. Nuff said
If you don't love a Bond film then you have lost the 7 year old boy inside you.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is by far the best vintage film and Casino Royal the best modern take.
The books are great but they are a different experience to the films.
+1 for Lazenby.
Worst, the one with the blimp over San Francisco. The The Lazenby one with Diana Rigg, loved that one. Was never a fan of Connery. Quite enjoy the Craig ones.
Seen one Bond film, got bored. Never seen Star Wars or Harry Potter and don't own a telly but full of infantile enthusiasms. So nerrr.
Seen one Bond film, got bored. Never seen Star Wars or Harry Potter and don’t own a telly but full of infantile enthusiasms. So nerrr.
Your house must be a string of laughs 🙂
Bond films should be regarded as cartoons, not filmic art, then it all falls into place.
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service is my favourite. I liked Quantum of Solace and couldn't really see what all the fuss was about with Brosnan it just seemed more Moore era. Die another day definitely the worst one for me.
I'd like to see a Never Say Never again remake - keeping it out of the official films. Just a way to do some of the people who have been or should / could have been Bond. Idris Elba as a new one or more entertainingly Brosnan as a returner. Although the latest one might just be Never Say Never Again anyway.