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How did we get from “there” to “here”?
Love all that old school stuff...
My recall of 90s music was that it was pretty positive. The music of today is consistently really aggressive and depressing in equal measure.
I was at this. Epically loud.
Mentioned above but timeless this one
Black Rain
Already had a soft spot for this from the 'UK Public Enemy'...
@colournoise - I saw the Marxman at The Thekla in Bristol years ago. I have 33 Revolutions per Minute on vinyl and a couple of their 12"s.
All about Eve was a good tune and Do You Crave Mystique.
Talkin Loud had a good sound back then
Doesn't seem to be any Redman or Canibus on this list so that needs sorting. The 'beast from the east' final verse that Canibus has to be heard to be believed. Pretty famous now.
Also put in his 'second round ko' where he spectacularly disses LL cool j in an easy to follow way. His rhyming is mesmerising but doesn't use slang or go too esoteric in the way that ghostface killah does
@ocsword - banging selection
Have you heard this?
Rapsody sampling Liquid Swords with an extra verse from GZA. The vid also features Roxanna Shante & as far as I'm aware its the only song about hijab wearing olympic fencers..
Great thread, I’ll make a Spotify playlist from it.
Have we mentioned Ghostface’s Ironman album?
Definitely up there with Liquid Swords
Currently running on BBC4 iPlayer is a six parter, 'Hip Hop, the songs that shook America". They focus on one tune at a time, just saw parts 3 and 4, Run DMC's 'rock box and Outcast's "elevators".
Dope......as they say.
Trying to remember some of the stuff on a tape recording of the jjjj Jeff young show on radio 1.
@2bit oh yeah, such a good revisit to that tune. It earned several rewinds the first time I heard it.
Rapsody sampling Liquid Swords with an extra verse from GZA. The vid also features Roxanna Shante & as far as I’m aware its the only song about hijab wearing olympic fencers..
The album thats off Eve is incredible by far one the best in 2019. Love that fact the album is named after all her female heroes.

Did I mention Liquid Swords earlier in the thread?
I’ll be at this hopefully
Picked up Check Yer Head but not had a chance to play it yet.
Saving it for the weekend lol.
Thread is er, dope.
Just working my way thru 'hip hop evolution' on Netflix and it's really really good. I know it's a golden age of hip hop docs right now but this is probably the best
A proper deep dive and nothing left uncovered I don't think, although only covers US hip hop I guess
Learnt loads, even the well trodden beginnings, didn't know much about Cold Crush and Grandmaster Caz but they get some attention. Learnt about freestyle fellowship and Oakland scene which I knew nothing about.
They interview everyone, apart from the biggest dogs like Dre and Eminem and Wu tang (probably all doc'd out from last year's 'of mics and men')
Still can't get get over L'il Kim's plastic surgery though. Jesus it's a completely different person! Crazy. More of a transformation than MJ I reckon
Hip hop heads, I had to share this. Absolutely amazing. ThIs Yt channel does this treatment to all your favourite hip hop albums. This is stunning though:
Just sat thru Cuban linx, illmatic and the infamous/ mobb deep. amazing!
Ironman next...
Can't... help... myself...
One of the albums I listened to about a million times throughout Uni, that!
Another Wu collaboration my lad put me on to, brought him up well 🙂
Really good tribute to Shock G on Lauren Laverne's show and good to hear this tune on 6 music. I'll confess id not heard it before as I was more of a east coast fan. I think it samples Cymande:
Thanks @fingerbang. That wax only playlist is something else.
My new favourite thing is putting 'wax only' on the big TV and chilling out. It's like having a real hip hop DJ in your living room!
Vinrican must be skint with all that rare vinyl lying about
Do a search on youtube for the "Amen break" and disappear down a worm hole for hours lol.
'Synthetic substitution' break for me, it's the busy bass drum and open hi hat
I'm trying to think the first time I heard the synthetic substitution break. Probably Ya Mama. Around the same time Beastie boys and Del tha Funkee homosapien (eggman + money for sex) introduced me to this
Just read that Biz Markie passed away Friday.
RIP. He was ahead of his time in the late 80s definitely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvnRtReutI
RIP The Last Poet. This is my favourite Hardnoise track, absolutely slamming and the scratching....