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Ridiculous! I work for a leading engineering consultancy and I can categorically tell you that the number under-30s earning 50k in our office of 250 is zero. I'm pretty sure that across the entire UK staff of about 6000 that it would still be zero. There aren't even that many 40 year olds earning that much.
Really? well I must be better paid than I thought then!
All the project managers in my office are on high £40k's/low £50k's - inc the lad who has just turned 30.
Yes... but has your car got heated wing mirrors? Eh?
Oh how the other half live....
There aren't even that many 40 year olds earning that much.
All our Engineers over 40, are on more than £50k. Mind you, this is the SE, so you still couldn't get a mortgage on a rabbit hutch....
Engineering is big discipline, but 50k isn't that special in certain industries. Most people I know by mid 30's were above 50k and some by 40 around the 6 figure mark.
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I didn't say STEM workers earn less than teachers. I said that a 50 grand job in engineering under the age of 30 if you're not contracting is unusual, which IME is (yes, I have an engineering degree. Yes, I've worked in more than one sector. No, I've never been a contractor but have worked with my fair share. Yes I know people who work abroad, both permanently and on contract. No, I don't know what your point is, especially as you haven't actually said what you earn...). You're also a fair bit older than 30, so I'd imagine your previous experience counts in there somewhere.
Dragon, you must move in more salubrious circles than me and dazh then.
Binners - that made me do an actual LOL. Thank you.
Our chem eng grads, once chartered, earn an average of £56000- pretty reasonable to attain chartership by 30. (I don't have such stats to hand for other fields)
My other half is an ex-teacher (primary school, quit late last year). My cousin, who loved teaching, is now an ex-primary school teacher as of January this year. My aunt (secondary school) has just taken early retirement at 55. That's just the people I know who've quit within the last year. The profession is dying on its feet.
It isn't about the money, it's about the workload. My other half quit because we're thinking of having kids and - based on what her colleagues who had kids told her - she didn't want to have a child who never got to see her, and who only saw her tired and in a bad mood. She was putting in 12-13 hour days 5-6 days per week and was just living half-term to half-term. I think my cousin's reasons were along the same line.
About the only thing related to teaching that's given her a smile recently was Nicky Morgan getting heckled. She must have watched that clip about 10 times.
Most people I know by mid 30's were above 50k and some by 40 around the 6 figure mark.
But how big are their penises? Honestly, I read stuff like this and have a good laugh. Up here in the uncultured north 50k is a pretty big salary. The only people earning that at my place are senior project managers and team leaders, which is a grade 7 on a 2 to 9 scale where 2 is a 21 year old graduate and 9 a director with 20+ years of experience. There are no under 30s I know of on a grade 7, and very few under 40s. Or are these silly figures people are quoting contract based jobs? If so then 50k is not much to shout about.
All I know is you can earn more and have better lifestyle working in a factory without qualifications vs. teaching.
Must admit I've worked a bit over half term!