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Modulating version is available again! Got to order via the professional shop right now but it’s proper UK product again.
I'm a bit intrigued by this... I too read that it was available from their online shop, but I don't know what the difference is... I've heard it said that the normal wireless version does support it, the one I have certainly has the + and - terminals used, apparently there's some configuration you need to do with the "Tado for installers" app but I think mine should be able to do it. I need to have a play at some point, swap it over and see if it still works.
That said, I've turned our flow temperature right down and it seems to still work so far, so it's just using manual instead of automatic modulation instead right now...
I just bought another Tado wireless sensor in the Amazon sale. There's a high risk of the energy bill increases being dwarfed by Tado bits instead.
Interesting! If there's something else out there that supports EMS, even if I need to bugger about with it, I'll add that to my research. Cheers guys.
Do you need an internet connection for it to work properly? That's a red line if you do!
A Bosch (edit Worcester) boiler? Get something with steel innards like a Vaillant or Viessmann.
Or a ‘high’ temp ASHP.
We had hive installed with a new Viessmann boiler last year (before I found out that they made ASHPs this year with up to 70 Celsius output).
Hive is simple. It doesn’t really offer us much more than our old wall-mounted controller did. Unless I’m missing some amazing feature?
Programming complex schedules is a pain. The UX is poor in the app and worse on the thermostat.
Handy being able to say ‘Alexa, turn off/on the heating’. Otherwise much of a muchness.
Edit. Needs internet for the app to work I think.
ours needed a wired connection for power and wired network connection for the hub. No PoE as far as I know.
The thermostat is wireless. But its range to the hub is not great. Eg you can’t take the thermostat more than a couple of rooms away before it starts getting a bit flaky.
Prettygreen - that is not the idea of the high temp from a heat pump, your COP will be terrible and it will be very expensive to run if you are using that as a flow temp all the time. The reason they can do high temp is for the hot water cycle so can run legionaries cycle without a back up heater. The whole idea of a heat pump is to use as low a flow temp as possible to maximise efficiency.
Yeah, that.
Also never had an issue in our ~8 years of Worcester Bosch ownership. Metal != quality. There are plenty of high temp plastics out there that are perfectly good or else you wouldn't be able to move for broken down cars (we'll ignore the big PEX elephant in the room as well).
my main reason for going Drayton Wiser as it’s one of the few that isn’t cloud-based. Can even still voice control it via Siri without internet as that works offline now too!Do you need an internet connection for it to work properly? That’s a red line if you do!
Yeah, I have an unused Wiser system in its box but it doesn't speak EMS.
If you absolutely must have modulation apparently there’s an adapter available so an OpenTherm controller can talk to an EMS boiler.
https://myboiler.com/opentherm/worcester-bosch-opentherm/