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CPS will have nothing to do with a case like this - criminal damage under £5k, clear admissions, no defence raised = police charging decision. This means the Bobby will need to take the case to an Evidential Review Officer (civvy who earns less than the Bobby, but whatever...) and a case disposal decision is sought. If knobjockey scratcher has no previous he will either be offered a simple caution or a conditional caution, which is the same but Mr Scratcher has to do something first I.e pay for the damage.
Car Owner has loads of rights here - if all else fails then make a formal complaint, but much better to speak to the Officer before a disposal decision is made - once administered, a Caution cannot be escalated.
He however was not happy as it was kind of induced by them being a-holes , but he paid to avoid a criminal record.
Your friend was right to be annoyed initially, but criminal damage is still the worst of the two things.
Then there might have been a karma rebalance at 0200 one morning,
And this makes him the biggest arsehole in the story by a loooooong way 🙄
...and it’s not a “karma rebalance” it’s ust a pathetic childish response to not getting his own way. Pretty pathetic really.
Car owner knocks on the perps door and asks them to pay for damage.
If they say no, you either go small claims or suck it up.
The whole prosecution thing is separate to this.
Nobody has suggested that he won’t be prosecuted.
^ he won't be prosecuted. It sucks but it's a tiny scratch relatively and the police treat neighbour disputes as something for individuals, insurance companies and the council to deal with.
Had mine done by a local when the place I was working was overflowing in the car park and they told us to park in the local streets. No one parked there in the day, quiet area, wide road, 100% legal right to park there and responsibly parked, not near junction, not blocking access or restricting width of the road. Nimby old bloke keyed dozens of cars, the full length of each including mine. Knew who it was as he kept putting cones outside his own house (we didn't park there), even though the cones have no legal enforcement.
Police did nothing.
Insurance job, polished out, moved on with life. Sucks, but got better things to worry about really.
Though can understand if you have to live next door to someone like that then things can escalate if not resolved, but the police aren't really going to resolve it until it becomes an ASBO situation enough to arrest or kick them out the house.
Key his house?
I'll see your ^^ and raise you
Key his anus with your penis
Appreciate the additional comments, particulary from siwhite.
Will chat to my friend over the weekend and hopefully update with a positive outcome
Zap the guys brake discs with a stun gun. Leaves no evidence, but car will never run again 🙂
he won’t be prosecuted
Your own guesswork based on your own story which is totally different and involves the police having no evidence whatsoever other than what you think happened, and no confession by the person responsible.
The OP’s story is completely different. Total slam dunk to improve successful crime solved/prosecution statistics. He admitted to it when he was asked by the officer investigating.
I’m surprised you can’t spot the difference between this and your story to be honest.
Go back round to the old bastards house. Tell him he has the choice of settling £500 cash or it goes to insurance, with them being passed crime reference etc, and they'll recoup additional costs. Put a bit of fear into the old git, tell him that every single neighbour will be made aware of his criminal act and pending action against him. Basically use any fear point possible as leverage, and keep the pressure on, daily. Does he have a wife who can be talked to as well?
Basically use any fear point possible as leverage, and keep the pressure on, daily. Does he have a wife who can be talked to as well?
I don't think escalating to blackmail is really going to help.
Civil Court Proceeedings.Old codger probably wont turn up. Judgement obtained.
Escalate to Baliffs. Soon the £200 scratch will be £1500 with additonbal court and Baliff recovery costs. Obtain if he doesn't settle with them, obtain a charging order.
Then he can't sell his expensive house, and will have some explaining to his family if when he needs to sell when he goes into care/dies. Won't be able to do a thing til the debt, with interest at a punishing rate is applied.
I don’t think escalating to blackmail is really going to help.
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The old boy sounds like a right toolbag. I don't think people like him should just get away with behaviour as nasty/spiteful/petty as that. I'd be interested to hear what the police suggest. I wouldn't want to go through insurance either but I would expect him to pay for the repair as a minimum. He should not under any circumstances just get away with that.
Bet your mate is gutted. I would be too.
Was it a Skoda?
What has that got to do with anything?
I don’t think escalating to blackmail is really going to help.
That’s not blackmail. That’s ‘restorative justice’, silly!
Nowt wrong with a brick through the window. Another one when it's repaired.
I've read some stupid shit on here, but that really takes the cake.
What has that got to do with anything?
Some people really don't like Skodas. Would you want one outside your house?
Not a Skoda but from the same group manufacturer.
Anyway, he's paid for the damage he did!
Don't have the full story but the Police suggested he pay and say sorry, he transferred money the same day. I understand no further action is being taken.
My friend does not want to see him so the apology can wait.
So that's it, thanks to everyone that replied and hopefully this thread may be of use to someone else if they unfortunately find themselves in the same situation.
Tail firmly between legs then. You can enjoy laughing at the old fool next time you see him.
Good result, especially if the old git might have leant his lesson.......If not, it's a shame he hasn't been punished further.
Why do people keep getting all “ffs” and moaning that the police aren’t doing anything?
That's the tone I get from this too.
It is not the Police fault that they are under resourced. If you don't like it vote differently next time.
If you don’t like it vote differently next time.
Who do we vote for to get old fools who cause minor damage, pay for the damage and apologise prosecuted ?
I’m surprised you can’t spot the difference between this and your story to be honest.
Of course I can. The difference is irrelevant. He won't be prosecuted.
And yes, that's an opinion.
It makes little sense to waste time and money to drag this through the courts for that scratch. It's annoying yes, but to the police it's wasting time when they could be dealing with more serious things. Sure, eventually the person may get fined and maybe that will cover the costs, but may not if he can't afford it. Some other case might have been delayed or shelved to make room for it.
On the other hand taking through a civil prosecution through small claims is fine and the evidence is there that it will be a clear win, but up to the OP. It's hassle and time, and likely to aggravate the situation with the neighbour however. Neighbour disputes are difficult to resolve especially by going to court.
A ticking off by the police with a warning would be better and ask the guy to pay up to repair the scratch. Which it seems is the result ...
Don’t have the full story but the Police suggested he pay and say sorry, he transferred money the same day. I understand no further action is being taken.
Police can issue a caution with very little effort and it goes on someone's record and can be used if they repeat the action.
'Words of advice' really don't carry the same weight in law.
Maybe the offender was offered the choice of paying up or getting the official response?
We understand that was the case.
My friend is happy with the result.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">Old</span> codger probably wont turn up.
LOLZ. We've established he is younger than the mode for this STW demographic.
Anyway, sensible result without footwear dampening.
Almost the exact same secnario happened to my brother.Guy was older and seen by a neighbour and we all thought nothing would happen but he admitted it when interviewed by the police. He was taken to court by the CPS fined and had to pay costs and a compensatory payment. Car was older so wasn't worth getting sorted or going through the insurance so can'thelp onthat front.
Your own guesswork based on your own story which is totally different and involves the police having no evidence whatsoever other than what you think happened, and no confession by the person responsible.
What do you think now?
It is not the Police fault that they are under resourced. If you don’t like it vote differently next time.
Yep, that will solve everything.
Put a load of Remainer literature through the blokes door. That will serve him right.