I am not crippled if I get kicked in the elbow – funny bone aside – or bum or shoulder….
No, but getting kicked in the elbow isn't potentially going to affect your ability to reproduce.
Jon (BSc Hons Applied Biology)
Well then you should know better 🙂
Simon (BA Hons 2.i, Business Studies and Information Management, Sheffield, 1999)
If having pubic hair caused a greater likelihood of infection etc, evolution would have got rid of it.
failure to understand evolution....
Pubic hair has evolved to be there for a reason. If folks want rid, that’s fine, each to their own, but the reason it’s there is evolution, end of story.
Most likely a reason that was valid 10,000+ years ago though.
If anyone has ever had pilonidal sinusitis or similar (which is really not a lot of fun), doctors will tell you being clean-shaved is more hygienic. I'm generally too lazy though. 🙂
Well then you should know better 🙂
Simon (BA Hons 2.i, Business Studies and Information Management, Sheffield, 1999)
😀 Note that I didn't put a date on mine - it's too long ago and the suggestion that I remember an ounce of the course is just that, a suggestion. Although I still love evolutionary biology because it is so full of silliness.
I'm 43 and have started growing the odd hair from my ears. WTF is all that about evolution?!? That is definitely hair that's gotta go!
getting kicked in the elbow isn’t potentially going to affect your ability to reproduce
It would if you rest your weight on your elbows like a gentleman should.
I'm not sure that placing my elbows on my significant other's head is going to be conducive to a rhythmic pigeoning movement...
It would if you rest your weight on your elbows like a gentleman should.
why have we evolved that the 'vanilla' position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?
Did your BSc Hons Applied Biology cover that?
Did your BSc Hons Applied Biology cover that?
Strangely, no. But I feel we may be getting close with this:
still be able to use opposable thumbs on my feet like my simian relatives
Your simian relatives can’t walk very well on their hind legs, with the advantages this brings for movement across flat or hilly areas. We can, because our feet evolved to be flatter and more stable, but that did necessitate some loss of dexterity in the big toe/thumb.
...and beds.
why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?
I'm pretty sure (well, I have a vague recollection of hearing it somewhere) that's cultural, rather than biological.
why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary
Again, dodgy use of the word evolution. How do you know that it's not cultural?
We can, because our feet evolved to be flatter and more stable
Or because our pelvises moved and as a consequence our thigh bones also, which in turn made walking easier, which in turn made the need for flatter flat...
Or because our pelvises moved and as a consequence our thigh bones also, which in turn made walking easier, which in turn made the need for flatter flat…
I think we're both making the same point.
I'm not convinced that the answer to Why do Humans have pubes? is "Because Evolution"
Some of the explanations have a "just so" story feel to them; marking sexual maturity or trapping pheromones are the ones that get thrown about the most. Most evolution is driven by external (mostly environmental) pressure. If that pressure isn't there, things generally don't change. Pubic (and other auxiliary) hair could be a hangover from an early hominin species, it could be that a gene that controls its production also controls something else and we (humans) just inherited it.
Looks like no one really knows
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23631460-700-why-are-humans-so-hairy/
They reckon humans stopped being furry 1.7 million years ago though!
swavis
Full MemberI’m 43 and have started growing the odd hair from my ears. WTF is all that about evolution?!? That is definitely hair that’s gotta go!
I hope you're not trying to pervert us with your prepubescent ears
Pubic (and other auxiliary) hair could be a hangover from an early hominin species,
I seem to remember there was a theory that we evolved from swimming apes was a thing about 30 years ago, so I'm running with that. It's noticeable that the hairy bits are the areas that don't interfere with aquadynamics (chin, armpits) or would naturally be covered up by a swimming cossie.
why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?
Do other land based mammals want to look into each others eyes lovingly? I bet they don't light candles and pop on a Barry White album either.
I hope you’re not trying to pervert us with your prepubescent ears
I'll put my ear muffs back on if we're being all sensitive about it... 😁
S****.
He said "muff".
I'm pitching Glory Hole Attraction to the Ch4 execs next week.
Simon (BA Hons 2.i, Business Studies and Information Management, Sheffield, 1999)
Desmond (BA Hons 2.ii, Modern languages, Bradford 1994)
you did mean that you graduated with a Simon le Bon, right?
Surprised the show that nobody watches or only watched once by accident hasn't been cancelled!
Wonder what the viewing figures are.
why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?
Oooh! I know this, well Desmond Norris did. It’s to do with the church so the deed wasn’t too much like animals.
If anyone has ever had pilonidal sinusitis or similar (which is really not a lot of fun), doctors will tell you being clean-shaved is more hygienic. I’m generally too lazy though. 🙂
I was told to trim rather than shave after my second pilonidal sinus operation.
If I needed a third I'd ask to be put down....
pilonidal sinusitis
Go on then, explain! I'm reluctant to Google it as I don't want to be served graphic adverts for the next six months for some magic cream to spread on my nuts...🥺
I didn't realise the "vanilla" position was face to face,my partner and I are outed as perverts as we reach old age.
as I don’t want to be served graphic adverts for the next six months for some magic cream to spread on my nuts…🥺
Ah dunno what I goggled but I do seem to get the Manscape adverts regularly , crop cleanser anyone 🙂
I didn’t realise the “vanilla” position was face to face,my partner and I are outed as perverts as we reach old age.
Separate rooms like all long termers/oldies? 🤪
Go on then, explain! I’m reluctant to Google it as I don’t want to be served graphic adverts for the next six months for some magic cream to spread on my nuts…🥺
When hair follicles get infected. Usually somewhere up the crack of your arse - mine were almost at the top. They basically chisel out all the infected tissue, then leave the wound open to heal from the inside out, as it were, just packing it.
My first operation was apparently such a large excavation that photos feature in medical presentations, and every trainee community nurse in Sussex was brought to admire it. The second (recurrance is quite common) was smaller but refused to heal up. Until a new consultant put a couple of drops of silver nitrate on it. Preceded by the words "now, this may sting a little....."
Wasn't expecting this thread to become so educational!
Too reminiscent of Keith Chegwin. Oh Keith, a career ender right there.
All vertebrates have, essentially, four limbs
Snakes? slow worms? Fish?
I’m willing to bet money a vanishingly small number do it “to look prepubescent”
Not intentionally but the fashion for removing your pubes comes from two places - men who want their women to look prepubescent and porn so yo ucan see everything
Its totally fashion and recent at that and comes from a very dodgy place.
When hair follicles get infected.
Having googles it, it looks a lot worse than just an infected follicle which normally just forms a spot and goes after a few days...
Most of the vagina’s on there, definitely don’t look pre-pubescent
there have never been any vaginas on NA
as for pubic hair - it helps prevent infection.
why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?
The theory I have heard and I have no idea how valid is that as the humans evolved to be more upright the spine / pelvis / hips changed shape so sitting down brought the lady bits into contact with the ground so then further evolution moved the lady bits further to the front compared to animals to stop dirt getting in
When hair follicles get infected.
Pilionidal sinus is more that a hair in grows under the skin, dies and then rots cos it cannot fall off leading to a massive subcutaneous infection
I hope you’re not trying to pervert us with your prepubescent ears
@Northwind bravo Sir, you have given me the biggest laugh in ages… and I really, really needed it.
there have never been any vaginas on NA
correct - thats the internal bit
correct term for the totality of the womans externally visible genitalia is pudenda but its never used, vulva is almost right IIRC but does not include everything visible on the outside?
Vulva is all the external bits. labia (major & minor), entrance to the vagina, clitoris and hood, the pubic mound and a few other bits I can't remember.
Ta - its a long times since I learned that anatomy 🙂
@MCTD I've had several abscesses in that general area over the years, mostly when I was a kid. Was pretty horrendous tbh. Haven't had one for many years now thankfully.
IIRC I was actually recommended to wax rather than trim or shave but I never really did it I don't think.
……the fashion for removing your pubes comes from
twomany placesIts totally fashion and recent at that and comes from my imagination
Well, the Romans routinely removed their body hair. Mainly through plucking. Which in fairness does smart a bit. The perverts.
Ah yes -= the romans - those bastions of respectability and consensual sex with adults only
the recent fashion for shaved pubes is just that - very recent and don't try to kid yourselves - its about appearing prepubescent. Its not what people are pursuaded its about but that is the reality of its origons
