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[Closed] Moving back to the Motherland - t'up North. But Yorkshire?

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I'm afraid that Morley is FAR to near the in-laws 😯


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 3:55 pm
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LOl 9mm, 303 and shotguns.. although if you need anything terminating I'm not a bad shot 😉


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 3:55 pm
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mirfields nice, or maybe hopton if you've a bit of brass. 10 mins to j25 m62, top riding straight out your door as well, hopton woods and the surrounding areas are ace.


 
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As someone who grew up in Elland i feel well placed to comment. Top end of Victoria road near the secondary school is very nice, but the rest of it is a proper craphole and should be avoided at all costs.. id look at places down the Shibden Valley, Hipperholme & Lightcliffe or like spawnofyorkshire says down the Ripponden Valley.. especially Rishworth


 
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Hora has the best point. Listen to Radio Five in the morning, there is always a traffic report concerning the stretch of M62 between Brighouse and Leeds. I'd keep west of there if work in Manchester was a regular place to be on time.
Marsden has A62. Honley/Holmfirth has Greenfield Road, Holme Moss and Woodhead for driving. Train when it snows.


 
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Hathersage - and just lie to her - Its got to be pretty close to the boundary with Yorkshire so it would only be a small lie


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 4:36 pm
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hm, only passed through various locations mentioned; but as said parts of Huddersfield are actually quite nice (to me) - faded grandeur maybe! my cousin and her family stay a wee bit south of Holmfirth, actually a bit out of New Mill it looks like - couldn't get more rural, way above the valley floor, middle of nowhere! but husband's a park ranger and I guess they like it bleak 🙂


 
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Hmm, Sheffield.... I went uni there, loved it. Lenses may be a little rose-tinted though.

I think she'd be wanting somewhere vaguely rural.

There's quite a lot of more-than-vaguely rural really quite close by...


 
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MrsMm commutes over th'ill to Bolton. Mostly by car these days.
Only 'snowed in' twice this last 2 years. Before now she has actually made it the 30 miles to work, only to find colleagues 2-4 miles away, on arterial routes MRsMM just used, could not get in 'due to the snow...'
Other times she uses the train. Marsden to M'cr is straight through. Marsden to Leeds = change at Hudds.

Much as I hate to agree, Hora, is 'almost' right about the Leeds bound M62. It does not help that Brighouse to Leeds is all currently 50mph whilst (i think) they widen it all...

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Penistone/Cawthorne/ingbirchworth/upper denby.

Easy access to Sheffield via wharncliffe woods (in rush hour), wood head to manc, M1 not far and trains from Wakefield for easy London access if that matters.

And it's a bloody nice place to live too, rural but not that rural. Good pubs too.


 
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Oh emley too...


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 4:47 pm
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[i]Hathersage - and just lie to her - Its got to be pretty close to the boundary with Yorkshire so it would only be a small lie [/i]

The border's on the hill up to Millstone edge, so if she goes for a run she can run to Yorkshire and back 🙂


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 4:49 pm
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marsdenman - Nice. I'd seriously be looking at that if I was in position to move now. But you'd have to throw in the bottle of wine in the bathroom 🙂


 
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Skipton. There's a good pie shop there.


 
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I've lived here for five years and never gone in the pie shop. Perhaps that's where I'm going wrong.

Good schools, shopping, riding too. 1hr 20mins to Manc though by car, not easy by train.


 
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Why, thank you for the comments. Be a shame to leave but lower / shorter mortgage beckons 🙂

But you'd have to throw in the bottle of wine in the bathroom

For you. we'd leave 2.....
Bath is Her Ladyship's pleasure. Plant stand was purchased specifically as a wine table 🙂


 
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If I had to live in Yorkshire, within striking distance of Manchester, I'd look at Whirlow/Dore area of Sheffield. I'd personally give West Yorkshire a miss.


 
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Actually, just a thought...
It not been on that long and the last couple to view have said to expect an offer this week. If it's a good one, and all goes without a hitch then WAHEY, if not we plan on talking it off the market until early next year.....


 
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How about one of the Saddleworth villages - right side of the Pennines for you, i.e Lancashire, very similar to Marsden for riding in the Pennines from the door (and right on the Pennine BW), not too far back over the hill to Huddersfield and real Yorkshire but a lot of the locals still believe the area is White Rose, despite the 1974 boundary changes, so your missus will still have that Ya'arkshire vibe...

Pick Greenfield and you've got a station on the line to Piccadilly to hand, go for Diggle or Uppermill and it's a quick blast along the canal to Greenfield Station...


 
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MM - good road testing the legs on the road bike at the end of a long ride, on the way back to the right side of the hill, is that. My mate in Marsden (owner of Mountainfeet... (another shameless plug...)) usually drops out before we start up there, excusing himself by saying he's already done it once, coming over to meet us...


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 5:25 pm
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marsdenman I shall miss your soup kitchen.
Throne room, looks lovely.


 
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Wetherby
Otley
Ackworth


 
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Rishworth? RISHWORTH? Theres nothing there! Its just houses alongside the road. Ripponden is the place to be if you want to be in the Ryeburn Valley. Shops, really top notch eateries etc.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:14 pm
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Give W.Yorkshire a miss? Never, sorry.


 
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Saddleworth !


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:37 pm
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Around Leeds/Bradford? Shipley, Baildon, Saltaire, Bingley area?
Rawdon, Guiseley, Yeadon area?


 
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Ripponden is a good shout, good biking territory both on and off road. Nice places to eat too


 
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Baildon/Saltaire/Bingley, great areas to live and superb riding on your doorstep.

However commuting via the M62 is truly dreadful. Realistic commute times are (based on when I commuted from Baildon to Sheffield), and a mate who commutes to an office near Manchester Airport.

At best
Baildon to Sheffield 6:30am - 1hr 20
Baildon to Manchester Airport 6:30am - 1hr 20

Baildon to Sheffield 7:30am - 2hrs
Baildon to Manchester Airport 7:30am - 2hrs

return journeys can be even more random but expect at least 45 minutes to get through Bradford from the M62, oh and if you decide on Bingley add another 10-15mins...

That said I wouldnt live any where else, but then I now have a nice traffic free commute through country side 🙂


 
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Birkenshaw is Bradford. Don't ever move to Bradford

well technically some of it is in Kirklees. but it may as well be Bradford, that's the nearest big town.
as parts of Bradford go, it's one of the better ones, and also being south of the city, isn't as bad a pain if you want to get to Manchester.
Ilkley, while 12? miles away, is indeed lovely, but still pays council tax to Bradford and, for getting to Manchester, may as well be in Scotland.
I live in Baildon, between Bradford & Ilkley. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the district. But getting to the M62 to travel either east OR west is a PITA. And the M62 is roadworks city for at least the next 12 months from Huddersfield (J24) to Rothwell (J30) in both directions

Having said that, if you're looking to get to North Manchester, you could go cross country to Colne, pick up the M65 westbound as far as Great Harwood, then cut down the motorway past Accrington towards Manchester through the Rossendale valley

to add to what FunkyDunc says:

Baildon to north Barnsley - early AM or late evening, or when the schools are out: 50 mins
Baildon to north Barnsley any other time: anything up to 1hr 50. more if it's raining. M62 drivers don't know how to drive in the wet. slow fat git on a bike, 2 hrs


 
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West yorks road commuting is just a non starter, if you are going to or through the big towns, I have discovered.

People who say London / SE traffic is bad, they haven't spent time driving in rush hour in W Yorks

took me 1:20 to drive Ilkley to Leeds last week. 26 mins on the train.


 
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indeed. you need to know the backroads. but rush hour Ilkley to Leeds should only ever be done by train, there are no good backroad options on that commute.

the problem with west yorks, is ALL the towns merge into one. 2 million people crammed into about 20miles x 20 miles

I'm in Ireland right now, population of the whole island is about 8 million. Population of W Yorks is about 1/4 of that, crammed into an area not much bigger than the whole of greater Dublin


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 10:45 pm
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Okay, thread revival.

Would anyone care to eleborate on the relative merits of:

- Marsden
- Hebden Bridge
- Ripponden

??


 
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Marsden railway/canal tunnel,probally the most spooky place on earth,approx 1.5 miles under the moor there is a cathedral to satan , I AM NOT JOKING. .On a seperate note used to be a little shop that did an awsome Sop sarnie. Nearly bought a house in marsden 20 years ago,Wish i had now great little place.


 
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I had a great Friday night in Marsden this weekend as the Marsden jazz* festival was on! Nice!

*it's not all jazz thankfully


 
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- Hebden Bridge

Only one I've spent any time in (and then not much). My impression is: Initial impression is friendly, and some interesting shops (and no doubt related community). But Steep sided valley means half of it's in near permanent shadow*, and the recent floods have affected the wider area quite badly.

*I live in west lancs, which is flatter than a witch's t-t so small valleys aren't my thing.


 
Posted : 15/10/2012 2:15 pm
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- Marsden
- Hebden Bridge
- Ripponden

No idea on the later but I'd mucho have Marsden over Hebden for what your criteria is.


 
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Marsden's pretty ace, mostly. Friendly community organising fun stuff like the Jazz Festival and that, nice little village centre so you can shop local, good pubs and restaurants and cafes, some pretty good riding on the doorstep, good links to Manchester and not too far off the motorway if you need to drive for work.

We have some problems caused by a small disruptive element of the weekend Ale Trail. The trains are pretty much no-go on weekend afternoons now if you have kids, they're not a nice place to be at all. The middle of the village feels a bit like a city centre evening on Saturdays, with middle-aged blokes pissing and vomiting in the street, abusing the locals and generally being noisy annoying gits. The police have started taking things seriously now, so hopefully the scrattier hen and stag dos will **** off back to Blackpool next year. Having said that it's only really a problem if you live between the village centre and the station, the rest of the village is largely unaffected.

If you've got kids you should also know that the local secondary school is a bit shite. We're considering a move elsewhere in the next few years because of this.


 
Posted : 15/10/2012 2:24 pm
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hen and stag dos
are you serious? No seriously, it smacks me as some sort of alternative universe- what you describe!!

Weird.

I can only remember one bit of trouble in Marsden and thats when that father murdered his family.


 
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are you serious?

Yep. It's all the fault of that James May and Oz Clarke booze program apparently, they featured the Real Ale Trail (Stalybridge-Batley pub crawl by train) and it went completely mental after that. Most of the people who've showed up since then don't have the slightest interest in real ale, they just want to get smashed on the cheap, and given that Northern Rail don't even check tickets on the trains, they basically get a free ride to pay local prices for as much beer as they can pour down their necks. By the time they get to us in the middle of the line, they're completely shitfaced. Come over on a sunny Saturday afternoon next year and have a look, it's pretty grim.

We also had a stabbing earlier this year, some random punter in a pub pissed off a local scumbag and ended up dead. Nasty, but not related to the Ale Trail as far as I know.

Come to Marsden, it's lovely! 😉


 
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@hora - wasn't that in slaithwaite?

@mintimperial - The beer train thing is pretty bad now. I've done it a couple of times in the past when it was quite quiet, went to do it again this summer and sacked it off pretty quickly and went back to the grove in hudds instead.


 
Posted : 15/10/2012 2:50 pm
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Crackers- you think of ale crawl and you think of people like ourselves pretending to be young again and really just being a bit jovial. Even Stalyvegas was never bad!

Slaithwaite - yes (Corrected).

You go to the Grove in Hudds? I often pop in up the road to see my Mum when I stop off for a Curry takeaway on Thurs nights. I might pop in if its still good? The last time I went (couple of years ago) the landlady made a big fuss of our Westie (and he ended up sat on a stool at the bar!).


 
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The Grove is still great and that will have been Kelly making a fuss of your westie.
I don't get in quite as much as i used to, but it's still def worth a trip.
If you like your beer I'd highly recommend HDM (Hand Drawn Monkey) beer shop which is a great little bottle bar next to Discovery Bay run by folks who really know their stuff. http://www.hdmbeershop.co.uk/the-shop/ they aren't open every night though


 
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Even Stalyvegas was never bad!

I think that's because Stalyvegas knows how to deal with it, whereas it's pretty new to Marsden and the authorities basically didn't know it was becoming a problem. Like I say they seem to be taking it seriously now so hopefully it'll calm down over the next year or so.


 
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A couple of my best mates are coppers and trust me they are taking the beer train issues very seriously all along the route as they're all a bit hacked off with having to deal with it.
The day i tried to do it my mate was on duty covering it for the first time, but wasn't aware of how messy it would be even at 3pm.
He gave us the nod to go elsewhere and pointed out that an inspector was running the show in marsden that day.

That daft thing is that Marsden is a great place aside from this one issue


 
Posted : 15/10/2012 3:24 pm
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http://www.hdmbeershop.co.uk/the-shop/

Great! another local business to support :mrgreen:

I already visit the coffee shop down the road 🙂


 
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