Ooops, sorry, my previous post in block caps was further up this page. Apologies to anyone who mistakenly cared enough to check the previous one. My mistake. Move along, nothing to see there.
There's a certain irony here in that they go slightly bonkers if anyone parks outside their house,
In which case, definitely shop them!
Something which I don't think has been mentioned yet: is it insured?
So... the car's still there, but only just. After being sat on the road untaxed or MoTed for, what, five months, it's currently being loaded onto a Copart transporter.
I have no idea if it's insured tbh. Contrary to any impression I may have inadvertently given on this thread, I'm really not very fussed.
It's a happy outcome for everyone though, no snitching, grassing or owt even mildly un-neighbourly was involved and it only sat there for five months or so and no-one was seriously injured by its presence afaik 🙂
Insurance isn't so easy to check, IIRC - there IS a publicly accessible website somewhere but it's only supposed to be used by people in the insurance industry, so I don't tend to use it.
So... the car's still there, but only just. After being sat on the road untaxed or MoTed for, what, five months, it's currently being loaded onto a Copart transporter.
I have no idea if it's insured tbh. Contrary to any impression I may have inadvertently given on this thread, I'm really not very fussed.
It's a happy outcome for everyone though, no snitching, grassing or owt even mildly un-neighbourly was involved and it only sat there for five months or so and no-one was seriously injured by its presence afaik 🙂
So this thread was for no reason other than to start a bun fight?
Sounds about right.
Looks like the problem has resolved itself without causing a public danger or nuicance.
"Sometimes the best form of action is inaction"
-some Buddhist dude
WWID? Fk all.
After being sat on the road untaxed or MoTed for, what, five months
Five months!?
Must be a patient lot round your way!
In some areas that's long enough to get the residents restraining orders, criminal convictions for invoking a punch-up, emptying your life savings in legal fees - and worst of all getting one of those grumpy folded-arms photos in the local paper! 🤣
So this thread was for no reason other than to start a bun fight?
Sounds about right.
No, I was just wondering what other people's stance was. I was curious, that's all. My own take was always pretty much indifference unless it was being driven, which it wasn't. It turned out that rather than having any sort of ethical take on it all, mostly people here just wanted to have an aggressive online pop at someone else, which, as you say, sounds about right. I particularly enjoyed all the hardman, quasi prison culture crap about grasses and snitches, STW being at the epicentre of organised crime as it is.
Five months!?
Must be a patient lot round your way!
I'm intrigued because I always assumed that DVLA would take some sort of action if a car wasn't SORNed but didn't have tax and MOT. Maybe they did, I suppose. I don't think people here are particularly patient, but it's not exactly a heavily policed area and it wasn't doing anyone any harm apart from taking up a parking space in a not particularly heavily-parked road.
Out of curiosity, how do you tell if a car isn’t taxed and/or SORN?
There’s a breaking bad style camper van thing in our neighbourhood. It looks to be a do it up project but it’s always in the same state, and same position.
It’s parked very close to a corner, half path half road - it’s a bit of an obstacle. There’s room in his drive for it if he could swap his cars about.
He’s not a neighbour as such, we pass his home to get to ours, ive not seen him out or I would say hi and casually work it into the conversation.
I don’t believe he’s smuggling chimps. The gateway drug parallel had me chuckling, until I realised it wasn’t a joke.
Trailseeker, thanks. Don’t know his reg but will have a nosey next opportunity
www.askmid.com checks the insured status.
Within a few weeks the vehicle (ancient Izuz Trooper) it had dissapeared so it obviously wasnt worth making legal and a works van replaced it which is doing the job legally.
A few months late to the party, but don't bet on it. The van needs a tacho and anyone who drives it needs a taco card and CPC if the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer exceeds 3,500kg
A few months late to the party, but don't bet on it. The van needs a tacho and anyone who drives it needs a taco card and CPC if the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer exceeds 3,500k
This is inaccurate information and completely irrelevant to a parked vehicle.
If you'd bothered to read the quote you'd know it was about a different vehicle from a different poster. As to inaccurate, what's wrong with it?
Is there another quote except the one within the quote box on your post ?
The inaccuracy lies in when tacho and CPC applies. It's not a blanket statement. If your moving goods for money it applies. If your business is unrelated to the transport of goods ie a builder with your own small digger on the trailer or a height access platform for your own use in your business you don't need tacho or CPC. If you were hiring it out on a non operated basis you need tacho and CPC and more so ....if the vehicle is parked up then tacho and CPC is non applicable.
Do you still get money for scrapping these days? I thought you were now more likely to have to pay to have it taken away.
You should see the state of some of the vehicles Copart have in their storage yards! Literally burned-out rusty shells, in some cases. Where I worked in Westbury, they had two sites, one right next to our main site, the other down the road opposite our remote storage facility. When Cazoo went tits-up, Copart took over both areas, so they now have a massive storage facility, and a couple of my former colleagues got jobs there.
Just to give an idea of the scale of their operations, this aerial view has Cazoo’s sites outlined in yellow, and Copart’s in red; that is all Copart now.
Is there another quote except the one within the quote box on your post ?
Yes.
The inaccuracy lies in when tacho and CPC applies. It's not a blanket statement. If your moving goods for money it applies. If your business is unrelated to the transport of goods ie a builder with your own small digger on the trailer or a height access platform for your own use in your business you don't need tacho or CPC. If you were hiring it out on a non operated basis you need tacho and CPC and more so ....if the vehicle is parked up then tacho and CPC is non applicable.
So why not say that in first instance? I'm happy to be corrected when I'm wrong, however this page doesn't exactly agree with you;
Tachographs: rules for drivers and operators: Tachographs in light vehicles - GOV.UK
You need to use a tachograph if you are driving a smaller vehicle (such as a 4x4) for towing and both of the following apply:
- the maximum authorised mass (MAM)of the vehicle and trailer is more than 3,500kg
- the vehicle is used commercially
- the vehicle is used commercially
’commercially’’ can be quite a specific term and ‘commercial use’ and ‘business use’ are different things. We refer to vans as “commercial vehicles” but that doesn’t mean they’re used commercially. A builder/gardener/poodle parlour using a vehicle for their business isn’t commercial use
Exemptions are important. As is context when interpreting googlefoo.
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