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So it seems that a swimming pool in Germany is banning migrant men after harassment issues.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35326090 ]Linky (BBC)[/url]

Presumably there will be large numbers of migrants who have been perfectly civil but are now being criminalised. Seems a bit dicey - I realise there have been issues with some of the migrants, but is segregation going to improve things or just ignite a race war?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 2:50 pm
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Something tells me you won't like Pat Condell's output.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 2:52 pm
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Presumably there will be large numbers of migrants who have been perfectly civil but are now being criminalised.

Sorry, how are they being criminalised?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 3:13 pm
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Sorry, how are they being criminalised?

Outstanding performance.

Third post and the thread is already about dictionary definitions of words used rather than the actual topic.

Well played.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 3:39 pm
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OP how is it racist? (Racewar/segregation)


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:16 pm
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Op,

Good.

Ban more.

Stating the obvious is obvious.

Angela Merkel is a stooopid drone spinster who invites problems ... how stooopid can she be?

There is a thin line between kind, compassionate and stupidity. She is the latter.

🙄


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:20 pm
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I bet a load of 16 year old native yoofs aren't exactly well behaved. I wasn't...


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:21 pm
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I bet a load of 16 year old native yoofs aren't exactly well behaved. I wasn't...

Did you try to sexual assault or molest other girls while there?

Were you a sex pest at that age?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:23 pm
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You know the rules,
No bombing no heavy petting. 😀


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:24 pm
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Did you try to sexual assault or molest other girls while there?

According to the report no crimes were committed. Just harassment whatever that entails.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:26 pm
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I bet a load of 16 year old native yoofs aren't exactly well behaved. I wasn't...

I am sure any group of people turning up and annoying others at the swimming pool would be banned also until they improved their behavior.

Except the OAPs and blue rinse brigade. They seem to get away with annoying everyone else on a regular basis.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:28 pm
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Did you try to sexual assault or molest other girls while there

According to the report no crimes were committed. Just harassment whatever that entails.

Yeap, the problem with definition ... what is harassment?

Or could there be media cover up?

In middle east they could get public whipping for sexual harassment so why do they do it in Germany?

Are they wolves in Welsh valley now?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:29 pm
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Tis only temporary, probably the time to install some video cameras so they can prosecute individuals rather than have a blanket ban. They had the local major on TV and he made it clear it was a short term ban till they found a solution.

Our local pool is full of video cameras, that and ban on loose fitting swim ware (edit: you can wear classic or boxer shaped trunks but not surf shorts and apparently some people won't show themselves in lycra) has proved so successful that nobody has had a knife pulled on them, been sexually assaulted or had sand kicked in their face since.


 
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OP how is it racist? (Racewar/segregation)
How is it racist to ban immigrants from things?

Are you really having to ask this?

No black no dogs no Irish...how is this racist?

These issues have stumped some of the greatest minds on the planet as well as you.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:33 pm
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Tis only temporary, probably the time to install some video cameras so they can prosecute individuals rather than have a blanket ban. They had the local major on TV and he made it clear it was a short term ban till they found a solution.

Let's pray that no real problems emerge ...

Our local pool is full of video cameras, that and ban on loose fitting swim ware has proved so successful that nobody has had a knife pulled on them, been sexually assaulted or had sand kicked in their face since.

You are the locals ... they are not the locals. Get it?

You didn't grow up with bombs and AKs but they do.


 
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You know the rules,
No bombing no heavy petting.

Or heavy bombing.


 
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These issues have stumped some of the greatest minds on the planet as well as you.

"Greatest minds" and "you" in the same sentence?

Are you really having to ask this?

That's why you cannot have the two descriptions in the same sentence. (cryptic answer)

No black no dogs no Irish...how is this racist?

You might as well bring the entire history back where the Mongol did not permit all men of different races to live. The totally, absolutely discriminate against the male gene of other races.

It was not racist in those days ... I wonder what will the world be like if it is still the same.

Will a sector(s) of the population become more healthy without the pub?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:44 pm
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I simply mean the pool nearest to where I live Chewkw. I've also posted pics of "my local boulangerie" but don't in any way claim ownership or that other customers are not local. I am an immigrant myself.


 
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I simply mean the pool nearest to where I live Chewkw. I've also posted pics of "my local boulangerie" but don't in any way claim ownership or that other customers are not local. I am an immigrant myself.

Firstly, I was bought up with sea (yes, sea - the one with Jaws) 30 metre from my front door.

Secondly, I do not like wearing budgie smuggler with hairs sticking out at the side.

Thirdly, I do not want to swim in others' filth ... I remember once I urinated in a pool when I first swim in a swimming pool ... I thought it was the sea.

Fourthly, it is so cold in the UK taking off clothing is a no no for me.

Finally, I do not like to swim ...

😛


 
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Wtf are you on about ?

Even by your own standards, you are making no sense.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 4:55 pm
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Wtf are you on about ?

Even by your own standards, you are making no sense.

Start from the beginning with OP's thread ...

Some of my replies are cryptic as usual. 😛

A simple answer:
If certain people are banned then they are banned.
Simple.


 
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I see.

You think you are being "cryptic"

That explains it 🙄


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:02 pm
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I see.

You think you are being "cryptic"

That explains it

Or because you deliberately confuse yourself.

Take your pick. 😆


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:03 pm
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Saw this last week. Local authorities are struggling to manage the cultural differences between the asylum seekers and the residents. I imagine if it been possible to deal with this via the use of guards / lifeguards excluding specific individuals thats what they would have done.


 
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Angela Merkel is a stooopid drone spinster who invites problems ... how stooopid can she be?

How's that then?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:06 pm
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Take your pick.

Don't worry, I have.

It wasn't too difficult.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:08 pm
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Angela Merkel is a stooopid drone spinster who invites problems ... how stooopid can she be?

How's that then?

She still is. 😀

The answer is in that sentence ...

nealglover - Member
Take your pick.

Don't worry, I have.

It wasn't too difficult.

Which one?

Please tell as I want to know. 😛

Or are you trying to emulate my TM style of being cryptic? Copy cat.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:10 pm
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Mixed changing/sauna?

Just wondering based on the sauna's I've used when working/living in Germany, most are sans clothes.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:11 pm
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he made it clear it was a short term ban till they found a solution.

Sounds like the Trump approach.


 
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Mixed changing/sauna?

Never in my life have I been to sauna but I think I prefer sauna over pool.

I have only seen sauna on telly ...

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he made it clear it was a short term ban till they found a solution.

Sounds like the Trump approach.

Better than no approach.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:16 pm
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Maybe they just need a bath, it's the only place etc. Etc.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:28 pm
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Interesting thing about this clearly racist and illegal policy is that the BBC is merely wondering how it will be enforced, not asking why the police haven't slapped down the local authority.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:33 pm
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She still is.
The answer is in that sentence ...

Talking bollocks as usual. Nothing to see here. Moving on.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:34 pm
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Lets just imagine dozens of men had been sexually harassing young women in YOUR town.

How then would you feel about possibly letting the same group of people into the pool where your Mrs and kid had gone for a swim?

Sometimes you have to look after your local community and if that means discriminating against a certain group of people, then so be it. Until people from these backgrounds learn how to behave and integrate into Europe, then they are going to have to suffer some disadvantages.


 
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You might be less blase about racial discrimination if you'd been a victim of it yourself. Or indeed if you'd ever had a run-in with a motorist shouting something about "bloody cyclists". The laws aren't just to protect nice middle-class people with white skins.


 
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Maybe they just need a bath, it's the only place etc. Etc.

We don't take bath like you ... we take shower and we don't do carpet in toilet or bathroom ... 😆

slowoldman - Member
She still is.
The answer is in that sentence ...

Talking bollocks as usual.

You are turning yourself into [b]Angry[/b]oldman ... 😛
I said the answer is in the sentence so which word(s)/description do you want me to start? There are just too many to begin with ...

Nothing to see here. Moving on.

You know you have just contradicted yourself don't you?
At your age you should have known better. 🙄


 
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There would be no benefit to clogging up the police and court systems with dozens of people. Easier and better for all to just ban them. They're more bothered about preventing an assault rather than being politically correct, waiting for an assault to occur and dealing with it.

It's rather bad form to go to a country seeking asylum then to start harassing the locals that have extended the helping hand, and therefore not racism to protect yourself against it.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:41 pm
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Just harassment

'Just'? That's ok then.

I know prisoners who are on recall for that.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:54 pm
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I know prisoners who are on recall for that.

When you say "recall", you mean recalled from probation/parole after having committed a crime in the first place, yes?


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 5:56 pm
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'Just'? That's ok then.

No it's not that's why they have been banned.

I was replying to someone implying they had assulted and molested.
Which they had not, just harassed them as opposed to assaulting and molesting aswell as harassing.


 
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Perhaps idiots wouldn't be putting discriminatory (I won't use the r word, as I understand there are various races involved) policies in place if the police were doing something about the assaults.
Failing to punish criminals for clearly criminal acts - regardless of race, colour, belief etc - just allows the racists to be racists.


 
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When you say "recall", you mean recalled from probation/parole after having committed a crime in the first place, yes?

I mean recalled because they've broken licence conditions. If they've broken a harrasment order for instance, (in which case it often has something to do with their original offence but not always)
Harrassing people is wrong so the word 'just' was innapropriate.


 
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Lets just imagine dozens of men had been sexually harassing young women in YOUR town.

How then would you feel about possibly letting the same group of people into the pool where your Mrs and kid had gone for a swim?

I'm not suggesting that they shouldn't do something about people breaking the law - clearly sexual harassment isn't acceptable. My issue is more with how they have chosen to deal with it.

Perhaps they could have used some sort of law enforcement agency to arrest those actually committing the crimes instead?

If I was part of a group of (presumably largely innocent) people being discriminated against by the authorities because a few of the group are committing a crime, I can't see it improving my motivation to cooperate with those authorities. Maybe the innocent majority won't mind, and won't feel any sense of injustice. Maybe.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 6:08 pm
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Perhaps they could have used some sort of law enforcement agency to arrest those actually committing the crimes instead?

No crimes were committed just harassment. What that harassment consisted of has not been reported.


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 6:13 pm
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Perhaps idiots wouldn't be putting discriminatory (I won't use the r word, as I understand there are various races involved) policies in place if the police were doing something about the assaults.
Failing to punish criminals for clearly criminal acts - regardless of race, colour, belief etc - just allows the racists to be racists.

I would imagine finding and prosecuting a group of migrant men might prove a little trickier than a group of locals


 
Posted : 16/01/2016 6:14 pm
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