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and usually I’ve got earphones in which block all background noise anyway, and I’ve normally got my nose stuck in a book.

Oh. You're one of those...

😁

Since changing jobs I've met many more lovely people than idiots. In fact the ratio is around 70:1 Most people are great.


 
Posted : 17/11/2021 7:53 pm
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My Millenial son is currently cooking tea/dinner (delete as your geography demands) and there's some rather good tunes and singing coming from the kitchen. Another nice to hear thing.


 
Posted : 17/11/2021 7:54 pm
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You are only 40 @hatter ? Blimey, I had you down as older than that 😉


 
Posted : 17/11/2021 7:55 pm
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Why do you think? Because the name stuck and no-one really cares if it’s called VED or Road Tax or RFL it’s still the same basic idea.

Good point. Except it's not the same basic idea.


 
Posted : 17/11/2021 8:40 pm
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‘geriatric millenials’

*waves*


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 1:41 am
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Good point. Except it’s not the same basic idea.

Precisely.

The name is irrelevant, you could call it a bacon sandwich for the difference it makes. The "myth" is that road tax / VED / bacon sandwiches pays for upkeep of the highways, so drivers perceive cyclists to be using the roads for free that they think they are paying for and get indignant about it. It breeds resentment.

Even if that weren't the case it's still a moronic argument. Just because I'm on a bike right now, how do they know how many taxed cars I have at home? I could be Jay Leno for all they know.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 1:56 am
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I think grandpa Simpson covered this a long time:

"I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what’s 'it' seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!"


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 8:44 am
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Since changing jobs I’ve met many more lovely people than idiots.

Most of the idiots I work with are lovely. The two traits are not incompatible.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 1:45 pm
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Good point. Except it’s not the same basic idea.

It is, to the general public who couldn't give a toss about ringfencing of funds and how taxation is apportioned. You have to pay a fee to use your car on the road, they call it road tax. End of. Your quibbling is irrelevant to the majority.

Now, their argument is of course rubbish as we're all legal road users regardless. But the deeper point is that people are fundamentally pretty irrational, especially when they are annoyed. They will say absolutely anything, regardless of the sense it makes. So pointing out that it's not technically road tax is 100% futile.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 2:51 pm
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You are only 40 @hatter ? Blimey, I had you down as older than that

City miles 😉


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 3:04 pm
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Your quibbling is irrelevant to the majority.

If it was irrelevant, they wouldn't be using it as an argument.

However you slice it, they think cyclists are stealing something they have to pay for and that makes them cross.

So pointing out that it’s not technically road tax is 100% futile.

This much is true. You can't educate cheese.

A better counter-argument IMHO is "yes I do." I pay 'road tax' on my car, I'm just not in it right now.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 4:02 pm
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I preferred their second album


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 5:35 pm
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So pointing out that it’s not technically road tax is 100% futile.

Facts don't change opinions when those opinions are emotive.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 6:39 pm
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So let’s not call out racists because they simply won’t listen


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 6:46 pm
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Im an avid conversation overhearer its one of my many pleasures. I always have a little chuckle to myself when I recall a particular conversations.


 
Posted : 18/11/2021 9:28 pm
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