Seriously what's wrong with folk? I'm sure many a person on here has done certain things in the past and possibly are still doing so, and some would say alcohol and fags are just as bad, but who first decided to give it a whirl? It's bloody plant food ffs! Youve got to be slightly tapped IMO to just randomly try something like that!
It's bloody plant food ffs!
no it's not it's a synthesised drug by chemists to mimic the effects of khat.
but who first decided to use it as plant food?
It never was plant food - just a marketing ploy.
Dont believe what you reard in the newspapers chap!!
Its one molecule different from MDMA (Extasy) - it was designed as a drug to get high on NOT feed plants!
Only a crazy fool would consume it, the BEST drugs are always green!
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TT you beat me to it, try it you might like it.
Some of the lads I was at uni with thought they could tell if pills had been spiked with rat poison, and were particularly keen on the ones they thought had been.
People just like getting off their tits!
It never has been a plant food
it's just another chemical right... the fact it can also be used to feed plants, just one of the things it can do (along with getting you off your tits).
Now the one that gets me is 'Cane Toad licking', kids back home do this to apparently get a hallucegenic high... ****in weird and rather gross really!
It's bloody plant food ffs
It's not plant food they just label it this way to avoid some customs legislation or another, the did the same with piperzine based legals a while back.
[i]but who first decided to give it a whirl?[/i]
Same goes for any "drug" ??
I guess you're talking about Mephedrone? the BBC seem to be doing a great advertising job for it lately.
aparently it is nearly as dangerous to the human body as another popular drug doing the rounds at the mo 'Tamiflu'
both fashionable in different ways!
We worry about additives/E numbers in our food and fats etc then take some random chemical.
People are soo bloody thick- let them do it if they are adults.
What makes me laugh is these people think they are happening/out there
Only the same as snorting some random white powder bought from a dealer who says its cocaine - its more than likely cut with talc, paracetemol, caffine tablets and whatever else they fancy putting in there.
Some people choose to take drugs, some don't.
The chemists will always be one step ahead of the government, do you think drug dealers will just give up and take up gardening or something?
They've been slow to ban it but only because as yet there is no hard evidence to show that it is dangerous. The process is only as obscure as those used to develop medicinal compounds.
Once it's illegal it'll just go the same way as LSD, speed, cocaine and ecstasy and become more expensive and more likely to be cut with far more dangerous compounds.
I've never understood the logic of making any drug illegal.
It doesn't stop people getting hold of it, it doesn't stop people knowing it's dangerous.
All it does is enrich the dealers, trap and impoverish the users, and prevent proper regulation and safeguards.
what i dont get is the police asking us to dob in friends that have it saying they want to get it off the streets- its not even illegal yet, what buisiness is it of theirs
[i]We worry about additives/E numbers in our food and fats etc then take some random chemical.
People are soo bloody thick- let them do it if they are adults. [/i]
I very much doubt those that take drugs like this worry about a few E numbers and having too much colouring in their food.
Ok, poor use of the plant food statement but look at the bloke who died last week, was he mid 40's and described as a party fan! What would posses you at that age to do something so random? I can understand young kids etc, cheap, easy to get hold of, legal, but at that age just seems odd!
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How close the legal and illegal drugs are.
People have been experimenting with mind altering substances since the first person tried eating fermenting fruit or chewing a cocoa leaf. They're not going to stop now.
Reports of the two deaths and subsequent editorial teeth gnashing seem to focus on the one drug when it seems "Withnail and I" were too drunk/high to tell what they had taken. It may have been BabyBio or cat litter.
wrightyson, some people never stop their old lifestyle. I know people still taking LSD, weed, Pills etc etc on a regular basis since the early 90's.
+1 Hora
Yup have some friends the same, however it seems like it's the ones who haven't experienced the joys of being a mum or dad yet!! Kids have no mercy for someone who's been out on an all nighter!! 🙂
we bump into people at club nights who were in the 'scene' in the early nineties and we knew at the time.
they are split between people who are still caning it every week and are a complete mess and those who have moved on and dip in and out of the same club scene for the music.
Wrighty- some of them even dress the same (or at least similar). like a mad timewarp but they look thinner-skinned/less flesh.
What would posses you at that age to do something so random?
it seems like it's the ones who haven't experienced the joys of being a mum or dad yet!!
Why's anyone else bothering to post?
[i]I've never understood the logic of making any drug illegal.[/i]
I guess it boils down to responsibility.
If you classify something as legal to injest then you are also taking on the responsible of ensuring that it's safe to injest. Now you could argue that it's down to an individual's responsibility to determine what they should take, but alas, individuals are also quite often idiots, and will assume that if a government has sanctioned something then it's ok.
Obviously the real-world is slightly more complicated than the above paragraph though 🙂
Class A stepladders anyone? They're not safe.
How close the legal and illegal drugs are.
A pointless and irrelevant diagram.
The addition of a single oxygen atom, like the ones in the picture you posted, can have a serious effect on the molecule in question. Add a single oxygen atom to a normal oxygen molecule and you get ozone. Breathing one of these molecules is essential to life, breathing the other will kill you.
If you classify something as legal to injest then you are also taking on the responsible of ensuring that it's safe to injest.
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ah but they decided that was bad for you AFTER they started taxing it
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Obviously the real-world is slightly more complicated than the above paragraph though
double cough 🙂
Things are not classified as legal they are classified as illegal!
Looking forward to people lighting up near me outside Cafe's etc. Hateful dirty habit.
I don't smoke so was utterly astounded when a woman in the garage was asked to hand over 14 quid for her two packs of b and h the other day! They wanna use some of that revenue on tar for the ****in roads at the minute!!
sit inside then, hora
as way of a distraction, while keeping OT
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/22/charlie-brooker-newspapers-dangerous-drug ]Guardian Take on it - Amusing[/url]
Question is, why try to synthesise it when it's fully legal in the UK in its original form (Qat)?
Breathing one of these molecules is essential to life, breathing the other will kill you.
Not strictly true, breathing one O3 molecule won't kill you, in fact breathing loads of them is only vaguely linked to cancer, but if you swapped one for the other you can be fairly sure it'd kill you 🙂
@soobalias. Quality article!
To quote "alcohol (which spins the inner wheel of judgment into an unreadable blur)"
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I have quite strong views on this whole ridiculous situation. I have experimented (a lot) in the past with illegal drugs and have come out of the other side quite fit and healthy (and before anyone says it, I know drugs effect different people in different ways). I am now older (albeit only 28) and have two children and have stopped smoking and for the most part drinking as well, but for the odd occasion that I would go clubbing or to a festival (probably only 2/3 times a year these days) or something, the herbal legal highs were always nice to have, as an option, instead of going for overpriced street $hite that you have no idea about ingredients wise. Being an adult I think you should be able to have that option there for you as long as its a) done in moderation and b) are well informed and sensible about what you do and what you mix things with etc.
These deaths that have occured recently that have been linked with Methadrone is purely speculative (as far as I am aware, feel free to correct me on this one) to the fact that it was that drug that killed them, I could almost guarentee that they have probably mixed it with other chemicals and no doubt drank a shedload of alcohol and not even bothered to keep themselves hydrated etc. What the hell do you think is going to happen to you?
It was like when the goverment banned mushrooms, something which has been consumed by man for thousands of years, because of possible metal illness risks. Yeah I would imagine you would go round the loop if you ate copious ammounts or on an every day basis, but again, thats the same with any drug, legal or not.
In my eyes its just all ridiculous PR bull$hit to gain vites for taking a tough stance on a drug that (lets face it) not even they know anything about let alone joe bloggs.
So is anyone on here going to admit to having tried it?
They banned BZP which had nowhere near as much hysteria and press around it so expect mephedrone to be gone by the end of the month.
I have to say, there has been some fantastic Brass Eye-esque media reporting surrounding it. Reminiscent of an article in The Sun from 1989 about a rave at an airfield
“at the end of the night the floor was covered in empty ecstacy wrappers”,
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im not one to let facts get in the way of a good story.
but..
mephedrone and methadone are not the same
legal highs have more risk associated by their very nature.
not sure anybody has made that confusion here, just a few spelling anomolies
All that will happen when M CAT gets banned is a bigger payday for dealers, as the street price goes up and the purty goes down, when it'll get cut with all sorts.
The usual Daily Mail and BBC hype to scaremonger
Being an adult I think you should be able to have that option there for you as long as its a) done in moderation and b) are well informed and sensible about what you do and what you mix things with etc.
Problem is that many people are a) incapable of self moderation and b) very poorly informed and incapable of determining what should or shouldnt be mixed. The public is, in general, not that clued up.
As for "natural" - have you seen some of the chemicals found in herbal drugs, pesticides etc used by the growers to improve growth and pest resistance? Not sure I like the idea of that any more than something a chemistry set turns out.
SouthernYeti - I have indeed tried it a few times, we were after a legal ecstasy subsitute, so went to out local helpful head shop in Manchester (Hermans) and enquired about such a thing (that actually worked). Were given two packets of pills called 'bubbles'. They were good, but did not last long, which was fine for us! Did not actually know that the active ingredient was methadrone until remembering the slogan on the packaging which read:
'Plant food only - keep well watered' (incidently I found this highly amusing whist under the influence as being quite a clever way around customs as well as being subtle in what to do whilst on them...but thats drugs for you).
