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[Closed] Low level street nuisance - complain or MTFU?

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Conduct a bombing and airstrike campaign

^This.

Just radio for napalm.

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Posted : 17/11/2014 1:50 pm
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I'm not sure that shouting "I'm the daddy" at small boys lying on the floor is going to end terribly well.

You were obviously never brought up in a Borstel in the 70s....


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 2:11 pm
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You do that these days and before you can say [i]antisocial behaviour[/i] you'll be getting a claim for maintenance...


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 2:22 pm
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Are there any organisations near you that run detached youth work? Children's centre, church, other religious group etc? Might find a Ned Flanders type preaching at them drives them away.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 2:35 pm
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Posted : 17/11/2014 2:42 pm
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Apart from Ned Flanders example above, do contact the voluntary youth service in your area (or council one if it exists, most pretty cut back now), ask if they can help, might be able to offer an appealing alternative to hanging around the streets.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 3:49 pm
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Next time they do it go absolutely batshit mental at them.. like properly in an intense may stab someone kind of way. They'll probably not do it again.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 3:53 pm
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The Ned Flanders bit was tongue-in-cheek; I'm a Baptist Minister with experience in youth work. If someone like the OP came to me, I'd be happy to stick my dog collar on and go and have a chat with the yoof, and try and steer them into something a bit more constructive.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 3:57 pm
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You could try and get them hooked on Ketamine, that should keep them out of trouble for a while?


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 4:39 pm
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Well I've phoned the local beat officer and got a very positive response. His son goes to the same school as the two ringleaders and he's already familiar with the names. In fact his son skateboards down our street and the PC was concerned at first that that may have been the reason for my call but the skateboarders don't bother me at all.

So he's on duty until 10 pm tonight and is going to come down for a chat with the lads. I told him not to call at my house though. He promised he wouldn't mention me.... just have to trust in his discretion and professionalism!


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 4:54 pm
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All sounds very reasonable.

Maybe not to those who would enjoy yoofs playing loud music outside their house.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 4:59 pm
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Hopefully sounds like a good result.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 5:34 pm
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Posted : 17/11/2014 5:39 pm
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Globalti's street shortly after 10pm tonight...

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Posted : 17/11/2014 5:47 pm
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Posted : 17/11/2014 5:54 pm
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Where not some of you young, boistrous ,upset the neighbours, perhaps remember your freinds did when they where young.

also remember those horrible neighbours who complained about you, and youve forgotton those neighvbours who said hello and asked about your health, schooling and showed an intrest in you.

a few weeks ago a group of teenagers a bit full of life, riding wheelies down the prom, i shouted to them, they stopped, i asked them how to do wheelies and about bmxing ,they just looked surprised that somebody old enough to be their dad was asking about learning to wheelie and bmx from them, they also said they thought i was shouting at them to stop, even though the prom was empty, sopmething they said happened quite often from older people.

Next time you see the kids just say hello, and perhaps say youre in my kids school and ask about schhool life etc.j


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 5:55 pm
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You are both so street and down with the kids 😉

FWIW in general I agree but when they are doing it outside someones house all the time with a ghetto blaster and have harassed your son its past the point where you can be down with them


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 6:30 pm
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So he's on duty until 10 pm tonight and is going to come down for a chat with the lads. I told him not to call at my house though. He promised he wouldn't mention me.... just have to trust in his discretion and professionalism!

I can see it now...

"Mr Globalti from number 7 asked me to have a word with you all..."


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 6:34 pm
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Probably best you go out rather than hang around trying not to be seen looking out the window all evening!


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 6:55 pm
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"Mr Globalti from number 7 asked me to have a word with you all..."

That would be very indiscreet. I know they're just nippers but they'll still be able to put two and two together and relieve him of his titanium beauty.

Personally, I'd go out and join them with a big spliff hanging from my lips rambling stuff about a bread wren or something - become one with your enemy...


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 9:09 pm
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Hang your speakers out of the windows and play classical music very loudly whenever the (c)rap starts up?


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 10:25 pm
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Does project post that bollocks on purpose?
How is kids riding BMX on the prom remotely related to kids who have harassed someone's family hanging around in the street outside playing loud music?? ffs think about the real world before you post (if you are capable of such a thing).
Ooh, its so annnnoyyying!


 
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Can you not recruit a very pissed off old cockney bloke to sort them out? [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 10:53 pm
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Does project post that bollocks on purpose?
How is kids riding BMX on the prom remotely related to kids who have harassed someone's family hanging around in the street outside playing loud music?? ffs think about the real world before you post (if you are capable of such a thing).

Ooh, its so annnnoyyying!

Well id like to award you the most pathetic and stupid comment award , theyre just being kids, talk to them, you might find them more intelligent than yourself.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:14 pm
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i have experienced this with groups of the little turds hanging round near our house smoking drugs and swearing and picking bricks off walls-lovely little Angels they were not! No amount of talking to them worked and they got worse and worse until one of them ended up in prison for something (not for long enough mind).

Maybe I should have taught them how to do a wheelie on my bike before it got knicked out of my garden (I wonder who by...)

Project you can of course write what you like but you just sound like ridiculous to me-keep up the good work


 
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Does project post that bollocks on purpose?
How is kids riding BMX on the prom remotely related to kids who have harassed someone's family hanging around in the street outside playing loud music?? ffs think about the real world before you post (if you are capable of such a thing).

Ooh, its so annnnoyyying!
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Well id like to [s]award you[/s] win the most pathetic and stupid comment award


you're doing ok so far


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:24 pm
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we had an anti-loitering order on the square I used to live which meant groups of a certain size weren't allowed to congregate.
you should apply for one of them.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:39 pm
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Well id like to award you the most pathetic and stupid comment award , theyre just being kids, talk to them, you might find them more intelligent than yourself.

You've already won it many times and I'm not taking it off you you foolish twit.


 
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Posted : 18/11/2014 3:08 am
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we had an anti-loitering order on the square I used to live which meant groups of a certain size weren't allowed to congregate.

is this in England? I know locations can be "indicted" in the US and that ASBOs could be placed on individual people but I've never heard of that before.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 4:07 am
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Had a mate who lived in a fairly rough area (although he has a bit of a reputation for resetting "yoofs" expectations) saved up a weeks worth of piss and loaded up one of his kids supersoakers and solved the problem - all looked harmless fun on CCTV


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:31 am
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Had a mate who lived in a fairly rough area (although he has a bit of a reputation for resetting "yoofs" expectations) saved up a weeks worth of piss and loaded up one of his kids supersoakers and solved the problem - all looked harmless fun on CCTV

Thing is, where does it end, they come back with a super soaker filled with petrol and a box of matches....


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:33 am
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Had a mate who lived in a fairly rough area (although he has a bit of a reputation for resetting "yoofs" expectations) saved up a weeks worth of piss and loaded up one of his kids supersoakers and solved the problem - all looked harmless fun on CCTV

Am I the only one who could see that escalating the situation?


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:41 am
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Escalation is always the fear but more often they just move to a softer target, which only moves the problem. The reality is that we live in a society that protects, supports and encourages this behaviour - if i had done this as a teenager in the 70s i would have quite literally ended up eating my food through a straw and no one would have batted an eyelid - not that i condone random violence but there was a form of rough justice that has gone.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:48 am
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This is an observation not an opinion - the reaction of most folk on here (who i assume are reasonable human beings) is the fear of escalation and its this fear that allows the behaviour to develop. These elements of society are not stupid they understand how far they can push the public/police etc. The only answer is not to live in an area that has these issues but for most people thats not a reality.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:55 am
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[i]I can see it now...

"Mr Globalti from number 7 asked me to have a word with you all..."

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Quick! Smudge your house on Google street veiw before its too late!


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 10:56 am
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we had an anti-loitering order on the square I used to live which meant groups of a certain size weren't allowed to congregate.

is this in England? I know locations can be "indicted" in the US and that ASBOs could be placed on individual people but I've never heard of that before.

yep in London. It was in place before I moved there - I think as a result of some previous troubles. there's a small park in the middle of the square. there was also a 'troubling' family maxing out the benefit system which would have got a Daily Mail journo frothing at the loins. they got evicted!
I imagine that direct action was related to some of the wealthy residents of the square.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 1:40 pm
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Anti-social behaviour act 2003 Part 4 Dispersal of groups etc

[url= http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/38/part/4 ]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/38/part/4[/url]


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 1:49 pm
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This happened to me a few years ago. Escalated from a few kids sitting on the garden wall to a rope swing in the tree opposite to massive gang of 15-16 year olds getting drunk, abusive and causing damage to cars (£00's to repair) etc. (that you could never pin on any one individual). The Mrs was at her wits end and I was working away. Next door's lad was in the group too. One night he was firing some kind of BB gun out the window at all his mates whilst they were dodging around my car, and I lost it, went outside and threatened to kick the sh!t out of every last one of em, proper angry Anderson. Good as gold after that, never saw em for the last 4 years living there.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 1:57 pm
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A colleague of mine had a problem with yoofs gathering outside the fence at the back of his garden in their hot hatches, revving, playing music and pulling stunts. Repeated calls to the Police did nothing so one day at the beach he filled a bag with nice round pebbles then the following Saturday night he settled down in his front garden with a beer and a powerful catapault and began launching pebbles right over the house. It didn't take long to get the trajectory right and to hear the first loud clack of stone on metal. A couple more and there was a sudden commotion, shouting, engines revving, doors slamming and the entire group disappeared up the road, never to return.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 3:56 pm
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Not in the same league as some of that but I live in a quiet culdesac with a nice green area in front. Trouble was that the green area had two trees which unfortunately were the perfect width apart for them to be used as goalposts. I had no issue with kids on the green, in fact I encouraged it. But when they started kicking balls at the 'goal' and it his my window so hard it woke my baby up and bounced back without them having to retrieve it I got annoyed.

Simple solution. After manning up and talking to a couple of the parents and they didn't really make any difference. I walked out and cut the tree down. The stump is still there now 8yrs later. Cut it to length intentionally that you wouldn't use it as a post as you would hurt yourself on it. No more balls bouncing off my window but kids still play on the green.

I know its vandalism or whatever, but I was going to end up vandalising some kid if it didn't stop so I saw it as lesser of two evils.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 4:27 pm
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[i]This is an observation not an opinion - the reaction of most folk on here (who i assume are reasonable human beings) is the fear of escalation and its this fear that allows the behaviour to develop. [/i]
About 4 years ago after maintaining a set of jump trails for 15 years I asked some teenagers to stop kicking the lips of the jumps. I had a spade with me to repair the jumps and although I didn't wave it about one of the lads phoned his old man and said I was threatening to hit them or some such bolx. About 5 minutes later a car drove up and 3 men got out reeking of alcohol and beat the sh1t out of me with a spade they had brought with them. So yeah - it does happen.
Jump trails were never ridden by anyone after that, they're mounds of grass now.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 4:54 pm
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Yep that can happen - as I said it was not an opinion and nor would I ever recommend anyone take a stand if it's not in there nature. In respect to your incident I would have got the police involved and hopefully the law would deal with the issue.


 
Posted : 18/11/2014 6:14 pm
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