These threads are useful to remind the more liberal among us that some people see the first act of V for Vendetta as a template for a calm and peaceful police state where nobody has to worry so long as they are not on the list while advocating for massive personal freedoms.
Also good these forums to see how liberals think the world can be turned around into a utopia. It didn't after 5 million years it's not going to today or tomorrow.
Proper LOL
In the last few years progress has been made on a huge number of things, see gender equality, multiple discrimination acts, the MeToo movement to name a few. In the same time other factors like wealth equality and opportunity have not kept up, that is what needs to change. If you can't be bothered to be part of that don't complain about being left behind.
The first human ancestors appeared between five million and seven million years ago, probably when some apelike creatures in Africa began to walk habitually on two legs. They were flaking crude stone tools by 2.5 million years ago. Then some of them spread from Africa into Asia and Europe after two million years ago.
Yes no progress in 5bn years, none at all
Also good these forums to see how liberals think the world can be turned around into a utopia.
Maybe it is because we want it to. Don't give up so easily.
"Also good these forums to see how liberals think the world can be turned around into a utopia."
Such a weird comment... Nobody ever talks about utopia on here except for frustrated right wingers searching for a way to ridicule the idea that things can be a bit better. Want to stop harrassing black kids on the street with ineffectual policing? CRAZY UTOPIAN, ITS UMPOSSIBLE. Want Amber Rudd to stop lying about the impact of cuts? Utopia!
Actually that last one is probably impossible.
Amber Rudd to stop lying about the impact of cuts? Utopia! Don’t forget The MayFurhur started the cuts and sacrificing social cohesion for an Us and Them state..
Hope you don’t mind, but I had to add that.
I'm sure most right wingers actively want everything to be constantly shit so they've got plenty to moan about. Lets be honest.... this is what the uptight joyless bastards seem to gain their greatest pleasure from.... endlessly banging on about how awful everything is
I’m sure most right wingers actively want everything to be constantly shit so they’ve got plenty to moan about
Interesting logic as the only people doing the moaning in the media at the moment are the liberal loony left.
Interesting logic as the only people doing the moaning in the media at the moment are the liberal loony left.
I assume you are unaware of the Mail, Express, Fox, Sky and the collection of right wing moaners complaining that everyone else is at fault and it's every bodies fault rather than entering into any debate or proposing solutions. Well apart from yours on the other page of kill everyone.
What's wrong with wanting things to improve? What's wrong with wanting people to have a better life? What's wrong with change? Some of the greatest things that have happened in modern history, have been because someone dared to dream. People told them it was impossible, but they had the balls to disagree.
But some people in life just want to kick people down.
come on mike, even you couldn't argue the #trump, #brexit media fiasco that has been pushing over a year now is only relevant in the media because the left push it daily.
Interesting logic as the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">only </span>people doing the moaning
Trump is relevant to world politics, world trade etc. Brexit is a massive event in the UK and Europe and you should probably look up Only
Yeah..... bloody lefties with their desire for social justice, equality and a fairer society. Much better if they shut up with all that crap and got on board with some mythical 1950s golden era that never existed, or a return to Empire, eh?
...a return to Empire you say, where do I sign.
As a right winger myself we bemoan all the social policies that will be enacted when the next Labour government takes the reigns...the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money...no doubt Corbyns lot will bankrupt the country or try to tax wealthy individuals for the bulk of their earnings...and then wonder why these people leave the country leaving nothing to tax...it's depressingly predictable.
"What we need is a good war" a good old fashioned class war eh.
bloody lefties with their desire for social justice, equality and a fairer society. Much better if they shut up with all that crap and got on board with some mythical 1950s golden era that never existed, or a return to Empire, eh?
Yeah, capitalism eh?
"As a right winger myself we bemoan all the social policies that will be enacted when the next Labour government takes the reigns…the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people’s money…"
The problem with the present Government and right-wing press is they're obsessed about telling us about how bad it would be if the other lot got elected never mind calling to account those in Government who've presently got us into this mess.
Yeah ninfan got his graph out PHWOAR it's got some lovely lines on it...
How about more things like this, instead of harassing people. Kids from estates riding bikes, and actually getting on with the police.
Yeah ninfan got his graph
its true that every rabid free enterprise lover is one purely for its fabled ability to bring people out of poverty[ dont we all tire of hearing ninfan bleat on about it ?] - I know it was capitalism when they were in poverty but hey lets rejoice that only 15 % of the planet are living in extreme poverty[ the rest do at least have £1.50 per day the lucky bastards] with wealth less than the singles richest person *
* no idea if true but hoping he goes of to google
Hurray for unfettered free-market capitalism! And how it benefits us all! Even kids murderising each other on London’s streets
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/07/global-inequality-tipping-point-2030
i find it ironic that those very black poor kids are showing ambition and entrepreneurship that surely Maggie herself, bless her, would be proud. They’re actually champions of capitalism, and the almighty free market
This is quite sobering when you see it. The sculptor asked for it to be displayed in London, but the government refused (last year)
26ft high 100,000 + knives confiscated or handed in to the Police
