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That's intriguing.
If it is the case, I wonder whether Norco are genuinely outraged (maybe they've been getting complaints?) or just want to take advantage of a disrepute clause (or whatever) to cancel his contract?
if he's doing pay-to-view training plans and reviews etc, why not use Patreon? Or is OnlyF paying him to advertise on his clothing? because if he's getting a fair chunk of money for the apparel adverts then fine, but if not he's taking an unneccesary risk
(it's actually quite tricky to not use the word helmet to avoid cheap puns)
If he's really lost Norco then that risk has become an issue. I believe Onlyfans are paying him, but the being cut off from support at races* is going to have an effect
*did I see somewhere that he isn't racing, and its just social media stuff now?
I’m guessing googling Only Fans at work would be non-ideal then…..
I managed to be redirected to it yesterday, searching for some obscure book I clicked on a result in Google which was a spoof page (lots of random tags and then auto redirects) to Only Fans with a young lady removing her pants right in front of me...
Luckily no one monitors what we use our work laptops for....
how long did you stay on the page to make sure it wasn’t what you were looking for?
Given I'm only 'pretty sure' our laptops aren't monitored, rather than 100%, not very long at all....
Plus had the wife walked in, I'd never be able to explain that as a spoof redirection!
I managed to be redirected to it yesterday, searching for some obscure book I clicked on a result in Google which was a spoof page (lots of random tags and then auto redirects) to Only Fans with a young lady removing her pants right in front of me…
how much did that cost you?
how much did that cost you?
That's a good question, they must have a company subscription if he got straight in
Plus had the wife walked in, I’d never be able to explain that as a spoof redirection!
To explain, you'd go back to the original search and click on the same link, surely?
Well, quite frankly I'm shocked!
Not by the UCI sending a letter to inform Lewis that he and his sponsor aren't welcome at their events, but because he doesn't seem to grasp that he's the implement in a sportswashing exercise.
TLDW: apparently there's far worse porn on Twitter than Onlyfans, which isn't a pron website, do your own research, etc.
There's a certain irony that he's had to post a YouTube video to let people know
What a shame.
Perhaps he could also do a video telling us how it's ok to uncover trails still being built so he can get social media content, with total disregard to the person building the trail, as it's "his job" and he needs the content for it.
Good grief, he really does drone on, doesn't he? I also think several people predicted potential problems coming up for him due to this sponsorship...unsure why this is a surprise really.
Well, quite frankly I’m shocked!
Not by the UCI sending a letter to inform Lewis that he and his sponsor aren’t welcome at their events, but because he doesn’t seem to grasp that he’s the implement in a sportswashing exercise.
I don't know much about onlyfans but benefit of the doubt they didn't set it up for pron... it just happened and probably at a time they couldn't be too picky or perhaps in a Elon Musk type freespeech thing?
TLDW: apparently there’s far worse porn on Twitter than Onlyfans, which isn’t a pron website, do your own research, etc.
Twitter, FB, Insta ??
FB is full of scams and apparently pron and grooming etc.
The scams they seem to do nothing... and noone seems to be able to.
I keep getting fake "ALDI giveaways" (usually local buy and sell groups etc.) and reported a few to FB and no action is ever taken... even though its an obvious SCAM and it's down the the group admins ... presumably Aldi know and would love to shut this down... ???
whilst i think the 'only fans' thing is a bit of a poor choice, i am actually more interested in Lewis' videos now most sponsors wont touch him with a barge pole.
He is buying bikes and frames with his own money and in return can give honest opinions etc. Having broken both a NP giga and a Evil thus far, its interesting to see and hear about. Albeit it appears his actual knowledge of bikes, manufacturing, defects and damage seems pretty limited, but hopefully that will develop with time and he can give more concise feedback.
Perhaps he could also do a video telling us how it’s ok to uncover trails still being built so he can get social media content, with total disregard to the person building the trail, as it’s “his job” and he needs the content for it.
Is "Subscribe to my OnlyFans" too long for a trail name?
😀
whilst i think the ‘only fans’ thing is a bit of a poor choice
Compared to what though..?
I don't remember the UCI having any issues with Arms manufacturers sponsoring riders...
I don’t know much about onlyfans but benefit of the doubt they didn’t set it up for pron…
Fair play for being the devil's advocate. Maybe they didn't set it up with the intention of streaming porn, but take a look at the career path of the majority shareholder and the primary activity of Onlyfans since his financial involvement began. Coincidence?
Compared to what though..?
i guess compared to something perceived to be more 'wholesome' by the general public. Despite Only fans etc being a great source of revenue for so many and that 'pron' is far more accepted these days, its still deemed to be undesirable by many.
So i would assume the UCI worry it might taint their great reputation if its associated with them. I can only imagine they would do the same if the Santa Cruz Syndicate became the Santa Cruz 3rd Reich Race Team?! 😛
Edit: nevermind, I can see where you’re trying to take it
Fair play for being the devil’s advocate. Maybe they didn’t set it up with the intention of streaming porn, but take a look at the career path of the majority shareholder and the primary activity of Onlyfans since his financial involvement began. Coincidence?
Having looked it up I don't think it's co-incidence but I don't necessarily think its a chosen path?
As it happens I stumbled into Lewis's YT late and though my first thought was "Hmm isn't that a pron site" listening to him about getting Sport and other things than pron into it at least makes me think they want to do other stuff?
I guess in part its where they are trying to take it ... I don't get an idea Bell and Camelback are meant to take over sales of arms rather than supplement and diversify whereas I think onlyfans might actually be trying to make non pron content its mainstay? (I say might ... not is)
is this whataboutery or have I missed something?
Well you may have missed it .. but then that's kinda what I was saying.
Vista acquired Camelbak in 2015 and Giro, Bell and Blackburn in 2016. The publicly-traded company (VSTO) owns 50 outdoor brands including Savage Arms and the Federal Premium Ammunition and is a large contributor to the NRA. Vista has been slow to respond to calls for action and a coherent strategy in curbing gun violence.
I don't remember the UCI issuing "we don't let riders sponsored by arms dealers ride" even though several stores and chains did. (They may have but I don't remember the UCI expressing any opinions on this)
https://road.cc/content/news/237709-should-you-boycott-bike-brand-if-its-parent-company-supports-nra
Yeah, obviously they're trying to steer the company's profile to one a bit less sordid. I can see why the UCI wouldn't accept them as a sponsor for the foreseeable future, they've got a long way to go before they've cleaned up their act. The fact that they still have the over 18 paywall suggests that they aren't yet willing to give up their primary revenue sources.
Seems far bigger organisations than the UCI don't have an issue with OnlyFans, and in Dubai too.
TBH, so what if he's sponsored by a porn site?
Why is that a bad thing?
Particularly one that on the face of it is going to have a whole lot less exploitation with the creators working for themselves rather than the "mainstream" porn business model.
The Harry Main of mtb?
This makes me reconsider my sponsorship application to Pornhub.
Didn't the UCI kick the pornhub(?) team off USACycling a couple of years ago?
Yes @mert. The precedent had already been set, so Lewis would be very naive, uninformed or "uneducated" to think that the rule would be applied differently for a website that wasn't quite 100% porn content.
People: mtb racing needs to attract sponsors from beyond the sport - not just bike brands - if it is to get the money in to expand the sport and pay athletes wages more akin to mainstream sports.
Mercerdes: parks a load of SUVs in the background of races.
People: not like that - what outdoorsy mtb person can afford a new £100,000 merc?
HSBC: title sponsor, put some red and white adverts up
People: not like that - banks are evil, boo corporations, mtbers are alternative dirtbags.
Red bull: televises top level events free to user for a decade
People: not like that - sugary death drink, gut rot, giving kids ADHD, #drink water
BP: spends money on cycling development
People: not like that - oil is evil, how is this sustainable transport
Only fans: pay athletes to decorate their helmet advertising their money making website
People: not like that - unprofessional, exploititive, not child friendly
I dont know what exactly people want? Until there is a Second-hand-Citroen-Berlingo-world-series where all teams must use 11 speed deore gears they won't be happy.
Unless he is planning on actually racing any uci events this year then why does it matter what the uci say. Surely it’s just clickbait for the anti uci mob
Until there is a Second-hand-Citroen-Berlingo-world-series where all teams must use 11 speed deore gears they won’t be happy.
Now that, I would watch while hunched over my Trangia, melting my Putoline and combing my beard.
It does seem a bit silly to ban him for that but at the same time, he is just so dull. For someone who is very good at riding bikes he just seems like a complete charisma vacuum.
For someone who is very good at riding bikes he just seems like a complete charisma vacuum.
The two very often go together.
Or they try to be edgy and cool and trash welsh mansions to show everyone how edgy and cool they are.
Yeah, obviously they’re trying to steer the company’s profile to one a bit less sordid. I can see why the UCI wouldn’t accept them as a sponsor for the foreseeable future, they’ve got a long way to go before they’ve cleaned up their act. The fact that they still have the over 18 paywall suggests that they aren’t yet willing to give up their primary revenue sources.
Well dropping the over 18 for an entire platform would be pretty much removing the income from many of those that helped build that platform - not exactly a moral thing to do???
..and ultimately an over 18's (or having your own CC or something) seems a lot easier to actually implement than some under 13's FB group for grooming kids... or any of the faux value signalling stuff FB and the like do?
Surely it’s just clickbait for the anti uci mob
Who are the UCI ??? (rhetoric)
But seriously a self appointed body that sort of inherited DH and who's only interest in it as an organisation is as a revenue stream?
Without being anti-UCI there is a question of what have the Romans ever done for us?
I suspect the list will be a lot lot shorter than for road/track.. or to put it another way if by some historical freak FIFA had inherited world custodianship of Rugby... and there main reason they should be running the 5 Nations was "but it's called Rugby football" I suspect we would be having the same discussion on a Rugby forum?
But seriously a self appointed body that sort of inherited DH and who’s only interest in it as an organisation is as a revenue stream?
Isn’t all elite racing just a revenue stream. Sponsors only take part because they think it’s good for their bottom line as a marketing tool.
Isn’t all elite racing just a revenue stream. Sponsors only take part because they think it’s good for their bottom line as a marketing tool.
Sure but all those elite racers started off somewhere and they aren't surviving off UCI prize money for MTB.
Pinkbike
XC and DH Elite wins remain at €3,750. Enduro has now been added to the prize money chart, with an Elite win netting €1,000.
You could multiply that by ten before it even registers as deeply insulting, it's not even at the "is that a funny joke" level.
It does seem a bit silly to ban him for that but at the same time, he is just so dull. For someone who is very good at riding bikes he just seems like a complete charisma vacuum.
Like Chris Froome?